Pat Robertson: Jews "polish diamonds" instead of washing their cars

[guno]

Robert Byrd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They stayed Democrats.

Robert Carlyle Byrd (born Cornelius Calvin Sale, Jr.; November 20, 1917 – June 28, 2010) was a United States Senator from West Virginia. A member of the Democratic Party, Byrd served as a U.S. Representative from 1953 until 1959 and as a U.S. Senator from 1959 to 2010. He was the longest-serving U.S. Senator and, at the time of his death, the longest-serving member in the history of the United States Congress.[3][4][5][6] (In June 2013, his record was surpassed by U.S. Representative John Dingell of Michigan).[7] Byrd, however, still holds the record as the longest-serving member of Congress to serve in both houses. Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, serving as a recruiter and leader for his chapter, but later......... read more on link...

Comment*** They should have said......... but later changed to more subtle strategies!

Lying for Jesus is a form of pious fraud which happens when some Christians believe that falsifying information is acceptable if that brings people to Jesus or somehow supports his historicity, saintliness or supposed godliness.
The practice has a long and venerable history in the Christian religions.

 

[Synthaholic]

I'm waiting for the evidence. And now you're added that no conservatives voted for it.

1960 and the solid south:

Presidential Election of 1960

1964 and it fractures:

Presidential Election of 1964

And 1968 with George Wallace, ace segregationist in the mix:

Presidential Election of 1968

And by 1980 Jimmy Carter won his home state of Georgia and that's it in the old "Solid South".

Presidential Election of 1980

So where did all the Democrats go? The Conservative ones (the majority in the South) went to the GOP.

That doesn't back up your claims. Conservatives went Rebublican while Democrats went further left? Well duh. You said racists though. And no conservatives voted for the civil rights act.

Of course it backs up his claim - if you don't think so then name the conservatives who voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Simple.

 

[guno]

Mississippi Praying by Renee Dupont examines the faith communities at ground-zero of the racial revolution that rocked America. This religious history of white Mississippians in the civil rights era shows how Mississippians’ intense religious commitments played critical, rather than incidental, roles in their response to the movement for black equality.

During the civil rights movement and since, it has perplexed many educated Americans that unabashedly Christian Mississippi could also apologetically oppress its black population. Yet, as Carolyn Renée Dupont details, white southerners’ Christian evangelical religion gave them no conceptual tools for understanding segregation as a moral evil, and many believed that God had ordained the racial hierarchy.

Though Mississippi’s evangelicals as in the south lost the battle to preserve segregation, they won important struggles to preserve the backward ignorant theology that had sustained their racial hierarchy. Ultimately, this history sheds light on the eventual rise of the religious right by elaborating the connections between the pre- and post-civil rights South. Thankully today they are looked upon by the educated in this county as intellectual baboons with NO moral authority.

 

[Iceweasel]

1960 and the solid south:

Presidential Election of 1960

1964 and it fractures:

Presidential Election of 1964

And 1968 with George Wallace, ace segregationist in the mix:

Presidential Election of 1968

And by 1980 Jimmy Carter won his home state of Georgia and that's it in the old "Solid South".

Presidential Election of 1980

So where did all the Democrats go? The Conservative ones (the majority in the South) went to the GOP.

That doesn't back up your claims. Conservatives went Rebublican while Democrats went further left? Well duh. You said racists though. And no conservatives voted for the civil rights act.

Yepp, and exactly those types of Conservatives ended up becoming Republicans. Thanks for supporting our argument.

Holy fuck. You guys are really dense. Try reading that again. I'm asking him to back up both claims, the big move due to racism and that no conservatives voted for the bill. How hard can it be?

 

[Iceweasel]

1960 and the solid south:

Presidential Election of 1960

1964 and it fractures:

Presidential Election of 1964

And 1968 with George Wallace, ace segregationist in the mix:

Presidential Election of 1968

And by 1980 Jimmy Carter won his home state of Georgia and that's it in the old "Solid South".

Presidential Election of 1980

So where did all the Democrats go? The Conservative ones (the majority in the South) went to the GOP.

That doesn't back up your claims. Conservatives went Rebublican while Democrats went further left? Well duh. You said racists though. And no conservatives voted for the civil rights act.

Of course it backs up his claim - if you don't think so then name the conservatives who voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Simple.

The libtards think Nixon was a liberal! What a bunch of gyrations to go through to rewrite history and smear their ploitical enemies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-new/907796/posts
Credit Where Credit Is Due: The Republicans Passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act

by Michael Zak

During the Kennedy administration, the Republican minority in Congress introduced many bills to protect the constitutional rights of blacks, including a comprehensive new civil rights bill. In February 1963, to head off a return by most blacks to the party of Lincoln, Kennedy abruptly decided to submit to Congress a new civil rights bill. Hastily drafted in a single all-nighter, the Kennedy bill fell well short of what our Party had introduced into Congress the month before. Over the next several months, Democrat racists in Congress geared up for a protracted filibuster against the civil rights bill. The bill was before a committee in the House of Representatives when John Kennedy was murdered in November 1963.

Invoking his slain predecessor, Lyndon Johnson made passage of the bill his top priority, and in his first speech to Congress he urged Representatives and Senators to do "more for civil rights than the last hundred sessions combined". Though he shared Johnson’s convictions on safeguarding the constitutional rights of blacks, if Nixon had been in the White House then instead, Democrats in favor of segregation and those unwilling to see a Republican achieve the victory would have blocked his legislative initiative in Congress.

The 1964 Civil Rights Act was an update of Republican Senator Charles Sumner’s 1875 Civil Rights Act. In striking down that law in 1883, the Supreme Court had ruled that the 14th amendment was not sufficient constitutional authorization, so the 1964 version had to be written in such a way as to rely instead on the interstate commerce clause for its constitutional underpinning.

Mindful of how Democrat opposition had forced the Republicans to weaken their 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts, President Johnson warned Democrats in Congress that this time it was all or nothing. To ensure support from Republicans, he had to promise them that he would not accept any weakening of the bill and also that he would publicly credit our Party for its role in securing congressional approval. Johnson played no direct role in the legislative fight, so that it would not be perceived as a partisan struggle. There was no doubt that the House of Representatives would pass the bill.

In the Senate, Minority Leader Everett Dirksen had little trouble rounding up the votes of most Republicans, and former presidential candidate Richard Nixon also lobbied hard for the bill. Senate Majority Leader Michael Mansfield and Senator Hubert Humphrey led the Democrat drive for passage, while the chief opponents were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, of later Watergate fame, Albert Gore Sr., and Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd, a former Klansman whom Democrats still call "the conscience of the Senate", filibustered against the civil rights bill for fourteen straight hours before the final vote. The House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 126, a vote in which 79% of Republicans and 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats and only 6 Republicans voting no. President Johnson signed the new Civil Rights Act into law on July 2, 1964.

Overall, there was little overt resistance to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The struggle was not yet over, however, as most southern state governments remained under the control of segregationist Democrats. It was a Republican federal judge who was most responsible for desegregating the South’s public schools. Appointed by President Eisenhower in 1955, Frank Johnson had overturned Montgomery, Alabama’s infamous “blacks in the back of the bus” law in his very first decision. During the 1960s, Judge Johnson continued to advance civil rights despite opposition from George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and other Democrat Governors.

 

[thebrucebeat]

That doesn't back up your claims. Conservatives went Rebublican while Democrats went further left? Well duh. You said racists though. And no conservatives voted for the civil rights act.

Of course it backs up his claim - if you don't think so then name the conservatives who voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Simple.

I wasn't voting then genius. I'm not going to research and prove every stupid liberal comment false. Then you just go on to the next stupid liberal comment. As it stands, it's a baseless assertion.

There have been several articles posted in this thread regarding this.
This is Poli.Sci.101. It is incontrovertible.

 

[Iceweasel]

There have been several articles posted in this thread regarding this.
This is Poli.Sci.101. It is incontrovertible.

History is stubborn like that.

 

[Jroc]

The White Southern Democrats who were in the KKK switched pretty much overwhelmingly to the Republican Party with Nixon's Southern State Strategy. That is fact.

No it isn't. Which is why you can't back it up. Most of the new Republicans were new voters and pro business, free market types. You guys just repeat lies like Goebbels.

After signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, LBJ said that he was afraid her had just given the Republican Party the South for generations. And he was right. Conservative Democrats bolted and became Republicans. It was Conservative Democrats providing the resistance to Civil Rights. CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS. After the Civil Rights Act demolished their power in the Jim Crow South, they left and found safe harbor among other Conservatives in the GOP.

yeah? who are they?

 

[Synthaholic]

That doesn't back up your claims. Conservatives went Rebublican while Democrats went further left? Well duh. You said racists though. And no conservatives voted for the civil rights act.

Of course it backs up his claim - if you don't think so then name the conservatives who voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Simple.

The libtards think Nixon was a liberal! What a bunch of gyrations to go through to rewrite history and smear their ploitical enemies.

Credit where Credit is Due: the Republicans passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Credit Where Credit Is Due: The Republicans Passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act

by Michael Zak

During the Kennedy administration, the Republican minority in Congress introduced many bills to protect the constitutional rights of blacks, including a comprehensive new civil rights bill. In February 1963, to head off a return by most blacks to the party of Lincoln, Kennedy abruptly decided to submit to Congress a new civil rights bill. Hastily drafted in a single all-nighter, the Kennedy bill fell well short of what our Party had introduced into Congress the month before. Over the next several months, Democrat racists in Congress geared up for a protracted filibuster against the civil rights bill. The bill was before a committee in the House of Representatives when John Kennedy was murdered in November 1963.

Invoking his slain predecessor, Lyndon Johnson made passage of the bill his top priority, and in his first speech to Congress he urged Representatives and Senators to do "more for civil rights than the last hundred sessions combined". Though he shared Johnson’s convictions on safeguarding the constitutional rights of blacks, if Nixon had been in the White House then instead, Democrats in favor of segregation and those unwilling to see a Republican achieve the victory would have blocked his legislative initiative in Congress.

The 1964 Civil Rights Act was an update of Republican Senator Charles Sumner’s 1875 Civil Rights Act. In striking down that law in 1883, the Supreme Court had ruled that the 14th amendment was not sufficient constitutional authorization, so the 1964 version had to be written in such a way as to rely instead on the interstate commerce clause for its constitutional underpinning.

Mindful of how Democrat opposition had forced the Republicans to weaken their 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts, President Johnson warned Democrats in Congress that this time it was all or nothing. To ensure support from Republicans, he had to promise them that he would not accept any weakening of the bill and also that he would publicly credit our Party for its role in securing congressional approval. Johnson played no direct role in the legislative fight, so that it would not be perceived as a partisan struggle. There was no doubt that the House of Representatives would pass the bill.

In the Senate, Minority Leader Everett Dirksen had little trouble rounding up the votes of most Republicans, and former presidential candidate Richard Nixon also lobbied hard for the bill. Senate Majority Leader Michael Mansfield and Senator Hubert Humphrey led the Democrat drive for passage, while the chief opponents were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, of later Watergate fame, Albert Gore Sr., and Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd, a former Klansman whom Democrats still call "the conscience of the Senate", filibustered against the civil rights bill for fourteen straight hours before the final vote. The House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 126, a vote in which 79% of Republicans and 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats and only 6 Republicans voting no. President Johnson signed the new Civil Rights Act into law on July 2, 1964.

Overall, there was little overt resistance to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The struggle was not yet over, however, as most southern state governments remained under the control of segregationist Democrats. It was a Republican federal judge who was most responsible for desegregating the South’s public schools. Appointed by President Eisenhower in 1955, Frank Johnson had overturned Montgomery, Alabama’s infamous “blacks in the back of the bus” law in his very first decision. During the 1960s, Judge Johnson continued to advance civil rights despite opposition from George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and other Democrat Governors.

I ask for names of the conservatives who voted for it and you give me Republicans who voted for it.

 

[Iceweasel]

I ask for names of the conservatives who voted for it and you give me Republicans who voted for it.

I even mentioned a name in case you were too lazy to read it. Or if the words were too big.

 

[Jroc]

The KKK was founded by democrats and the membership was democrats. They used the Southern Baptist church as a cover but none of those men were Christians. That is far left not far right. Your sense of direction is a bit off there.

Christians and Jews supporting Israel have had an abiding friendship for years now. We are warmly received by Israeli's. We pray for the peace of Jerusalem. There is no ulterior motive to supporting Israel. I disagree with you.

On the Road to Armageddon
How evangelicals became Israel's best friend.

Read more at On the Road to Armageddon: How Evangelicals Became Israel's Best Friend by Timothy P. Weber - Beliefnet.com

Evangelical theologies do preach that Jews must control all of the Holy Land before the second coming of Christ. (The organized “Christian Zionist” movement is based on this concept, but as a political group they get little press and have relatively little clout in Washington.)

However, in the evangelical vision of the future, the powerful Jewish state is just a passing phase. In the next phase (to oversimplify a bit) all the Jews become Christians or go to hell. The "New" Testament image of Jews as “Christ-killers,” rejecting and therefore rejected by the true God, has never been totally erased either. So, although white evangelicals are more likely than other Americans to support Israel, their religion makes them rather ambivalent toward the Jewish religion, to say the least.they see Jews as a tool and a player in their end time fantasies.

every once in a while their leaders slip up and speak out such as John Haggee :



just listen to what this fat swine says,

Any Jew who makes compact with him and his filthy ilk is no better then them

So?...Jewish belief is all nations will turn against Israel before the messiah comes...G-d will sort it out when the time comes these. These Christians side with the Jews and Israe, doesn't matter what their religion tells them really does it? You people are a joke and i include Stat in that.. Religious bigots if you ask me

 

[Jroc]

The White Southern Democrats who were in the KKK switched pretty much overwhelmingly to the Republican Party with Nixon's Southern State Strategy. That is fact.

Not according to the documented history and evidence it isn't, Stat. This is the link to Wikipedia. By 2008, there were only 6,000 Klans men left in the US. The KKK were never a part of the Republican Party. The group was rejected by the Republicans as they wanted nothing to do with them. The entire history of the KKK is Democrats and although they tried to force their way into the Republican party, into Christian Universities they were flatly rejected. Have a look at this:

Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Historian Eric Foner observed:

In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[45]

Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Interview with Nathan Bedford Forrest

To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks.[45] The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror against Republican leaders both black and white. Those political leaders assassinated during the campaign included Arkansas Congressman James M. Hinds, three members of the South Carolina legislature, and several men who served in constitutional conventions."[46]

Activities
Three Ku Klux Klan members arrested in Tishomingo County, Mississippi, September 1871, for the attempted murder of an entire family[citation needed] Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Why the Ku Klux

Klan members adopted masks and robes that hid their identities and added to the drama of their night rides, their chosen time for attacks. Many of them operated in small towns and rural areas where people otherwise knew each other's faces, and sometimes still recognized the attackers. "The kind of thing that men are afraid or ashamed to do openly, and by day, they accomplish secretly, masked, and at night."[47] The Ku Klux Klan night riders "sometimes claimed to be ghosts of Confederate soldiers so, as they claimed, to frighten superstitious blacks. Few freedmen took such nonsense seriously."[48]

The Klan attacked black members of the Loyal Leagues and intimidated southern Republicans and Freedmen's Bureau workers. When they killed black political leaders, they also took heads of families, along with the leaders of churches and community groups, because these people had many roles in society. Agents of the Freedmen's Bureau reported weekly assaults and murders of blacks. "Armed guerrilla warfare killed thousands of Negroes; political riots were staged; their causes or occasions were always obscure, their results always certain: ten to one hundred times as many Negroes were killed as whites." Masked men shot into houses and burned them, sometimes with the occupants still inside. They drove successful black farmers off their land. "Generally, it can be reported that in North and South Carolina, in 18 months ending in June 1867, there were 197 murders and 548 cases of aggravated assault."[49]

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Comment*** If we examine the profile of the founder of Planned Parenthood, an agenda originally aimed at reducing the black population, and if we look at which party has continued to try to curb the education, promote Planned Parenthood, prevented the advancement of black americans it has to be the Democratic party. The same would be true of a Party not inclined to sympathise with Israel and the Jewish people suffering anti semitism. There seems to be more support for those oppressing Israel and the Jews within the Democratic Party. David Horowitz, a member of the Democrat party for decades - before going Republican - said that Detroits social programs were handled by the Democrats for past 100 yrs. In fact in every major city that is failing these same people today. The agenda does not appear to have changed one iota. Which is why I never became a Democrat. Like Horowitz my conscience wouldn't allow it. ( Horowitz left the Democrat Party after burning his membership card to the Communist Party - Not all Democrats are Communists but some are ) While the Republican party today has many in name only among their members they have only themselves to blame for allowing it.

And the Klan was never a part of the Democratic party. Again, we are talking about RACIST INDIVIDUALS who decided to band together.

Without exact lists of KKK members and then corresponding lists of party breakdown, by state, by name, by year, this is all pretty much pissing in the wind.

But the fact remains that the vote in the South shifted immensely with Nixon's Southern State strategy. This can only mean that vast swaths of the populations of those southern states which had reliably voted Democratic, switched sides. And the same more than likely applies to the vast majority of KKKers.

By the way, there is still a KKK hotbed near Cincinnatti, Oh, deep in the most RED county in Ohio.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bEOiDjdhF4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bEOiDjdhF4[/ame]

 

[Statistikhengst]

On the Road to Armageddon
How evangelicals became Israel's best friend.

Read more at On the Road to Armageddon: How Evangelicals Became Israel's Best Friend by Timothy P. Weber - Beliefnet.com

Evangelical theologies do preach that Jews must control all of the Holy Land before the second coming of Christ. (The organized “Christian Zionist” movement is based on this concept, but as a political group they get little press and have relatively little clout in Washington.)

However, in the evangelical vision of the future, the powerful Jewish state is just a passing phase. In the next phase (to oversimplify a bit) all the Jews become Christians or go to hell. The "New" Testament image of Jews as “Christ-killers,” rejecting and therefore rejected by the true God, has never been totally erased either. So, although white evangelicals are more likely than other Americans to support Israel, their religion makes them rather ambivalent toward the Jewish religion, to say the least.they see Jews as a tool and a player in their end time fantasies.

every once in a while their leaders slip up and speak out such as John Haggee :



just listen to what this fat swine says,

Any Jew who makes compact with him and his filthy ilk is no better then them

So?...Jewish belief is all nations will turn against Israel before the messiah comes...G-d will sort it out when the time comes these. These Christians side with the Jews and Israe, doesn't matter what their religion tells them really does it? You people are a joke and i include Stat in that.. Religious bigots if you ask me

And you think that is a pre-requisite for making Moshiach? Really? Wow.

 

[Jroc]

Evangelical theologies do preach that Jews must control all of the Holy Land before the second coming of Christ. (The organized “Christian Zionist” movement is based on this concept, but as a political group they get little press and have relatively little clout in Washington.)

However, in the evangelical vision of the future, the powerful Jewish state is just a passing phase. In the next phase (to oversimplify a bit) all the Jews become Christians or go to hell. The "New" Testament image of Jews as “Christ-killers,” rejecting and therefore rejected by the true God, has never been totally erased either. So, although white evangelicals are more likely than other Americans to support Israel, their religion makes them rather ambivalent toward the Jewish religion, to say the least.they see Jews as a tool and a player in their end time fantasies.

every once in a while their leaders slip up and speak out such as John Haggee :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ec-kZGKnQ8

just listen to what this fat swine says,

Any Jew who makes compact with him and his filthy ilk is no better then them

So?...Jewish belief is all nations will turn against Israel before the messiah comes...G-d will sort it out when the time comes these. These Christians side with the Jews and Israe, doesn't matter what their religion tells them really does it? You people are a joke and i include Stat in that.. Religious bigots if you ask me

And you think that is a pre-requisite for making Moshiach? Really? Wow.

No one knows exactly but most of the world is already turned against the Israel (the Jews) now Israel is born again, all that is left is for the U.S. to turn against us. With Obama and the rest of the liberal nuts acquiescing to Iran soon the Messiach will come, when it is most bleak, he will come... Yes thats what i believe

 

[Statistikhengst]

So?...Jewish belief is all nations will turn against Israel before the messiah comes...G-d will sort it out when the time comes these. These Christians side with the Jews and Israe, doesn't matter what their religion tells them really does it? You people are a joke and i include Stat in that.. Religious bigots if you ask me

And you think that is a pre-requisite for making Moshiach? Really? Wow.

No one knows exactly but most of the world is already turned against the Israel (the Jews) now Israel is born again, all that is left is for the U.S. to turn against us. With Obama and the rest of the liberal nuts acquiescing to Iran soon the Messiach will come, when it is most bleak, he will come... Yes thats what i believe

Thank you for your honesty!!

 

[Uncensored2008]

To think he was once thought of as Presidential Material, by republicans..

{Rev. Jesse Jackson referred to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York City as "Hymietown" in January 1984 during a conversation with a black Washington Post reporter, Milton Coleman. }
Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused

To think he was once thought of as Presidential Material, by democrats..

 

[Uncensored2008]

To think he was once thought of as Presidential Material, by republicans..

{The slur was uttered at a heated, finger-pointing session at Bill Clinton's Fayetteville, Ark., campaign headquarters on election night in 1974, following his defeat. "You fucking Jew bastard!" Hillary yelled at Paul, Mary Lee confirmed -- even though Paul Fray is not Jewish}

To think she is STILL thought of as Presidential Material, by democrats..

 

[Statistikhengst]

To think he was once thought of as Presidential Material, by republicans..

{Rev. Jesse Jackson referred to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York City as "Hymietown" in January 1984 during a conversation with a black Washington Post reporter, Milton Coleman. }
Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused

To think he was once thought of as Presidential Material, by democrats..

Yes, that was disgusting. And you see what great presidential material he was, too!!

So, thanks for proving a small side-point, there!!

 

[Uncensored2008]

And you know the only reason they love us Jews and Isreal , bad for Israel and Jews to make compact with this crowd

You chose the name "guano" because you're batshit crazy, right?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I remember when the radical right wing HATED Jews.

No you don't - but you're sure willing to lie.

Stick around long enough they might again.

Isn't there enough JOOOOOO hating from you leftists to go around?

The love and hate of the RIGHT WING PARTISANS is entirely pragmatic. They take their orders. Today they love Israel, ergo they love Jews.

Jews ought to trust nobody, no political movement they don't own.

The Zionists know this all too well.

Non-Jews are not to be trusted implicitly.

All alliances are temporary.

Because of 9-11, you democrats love Muslims, ergo you hate Jews.

If Jews would commit acts of terror against America, you democrats would love them too!