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If you want to really freak out Paul Ryan, dress like a blue-collar worker and try to shake his hand. Watch him cringe in disgust and loathing.
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Political philosophy and religious philosophy are not always the same. I don't see what the big deal is here really
None are so blind as those who will not see.
Ahh - the "they all do it" defense! A golden oldie.
If you'd like to see the entire quote, which I didn't catch in Comrade Larry's piece, here it is:
I reject her philosophy. Its an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a persons view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas. Dont give me Ayn Rand.
He clearly qualifies his statement to reflect his opposition to Rand's philosophy as respects to epistemology. Ryan has always supported and continues to support Rand/Hayek/Mises like ideas on economics and government.
It is reasonable to support some ideas of another person but not all, is it not? After all, MLK was a known philanderer. If you stand against cheating on your wife, does that mean your support of King's other ideas makes you hypocritical, much less a liar?
Geez guys, read the whole quote, in context, before you launch off on some lefty circle jerk.
While you are not defending it, you are trying to mitigate Paul Ryan's lie.
For the past 4 years I've heard the left-leaning posters "mitigate" Obama's questionable relationships.
I'd love to vote for someone that hasn't lied. Really I would.
But, WYGD
Obama had a fleeting acquaintance with a college professor named Bill Ayers, not a terrorist named Bill Ayers. There is no evidence that Obama knew anything about Ayers previous history when they met. Jack Nicholson did not know that his mother was really his grandmother, and his sister was really his mother, until a reporter told him in the 1980s.
There is no evidence that Obama heard anything controversial from Rev. Wright during the services he attended. Just because he was a member of a church for 20 years doesn't mean that he actually showed up at the church. Just like Reagan. Just like Bush.
But in this case, there is evidence: Paul Ryan's actual words, caught on tape, exposing him as a liar.
Rob Zerban 2012
This is awesome.
The Last Word - Paul Ryan rewrites Paul Ryan - YouTube
How does he think he was going to get away with this? Has he never heard of tape recorders?
Ayn Rand's ideal man was Edward Hickman, who murdered and dismembered a 12 year old girl. Her philosophy and characters in her books reflect the admiration of those that have regard only for themselves. She, and all those the espouse her philosophy are amoral individuals that should never be allowed near the levers of power.
Christian School Confidential: Ayn Rand's ideal man was a knife wielding child murderer!
Paul Ryan is a scumbag, but I'm surprised he threw his idol, Ayn Rand, under the bus. However, I feel that was only for public consumption. I'm sure he still worships her in private.
Ayn Rand's ideal man was Edward Hickman, who murdered and dismembered a 12 year old girl. Her philosophy and characters in her books reflect the admiration of those that have regard only for themselves. She, and all those the espouse her philosophy are amoral individuals that should never be allowed near the levers of power.
Christian School Confidential: Ayn Rand's ideal man was a knife wielding child murderer!
Paul Ryan is a scumbag, but I'm surprised he threw his idol, Ayn Rand, under the bus. However, I feel that was only for public consumption. I'm sure he still worships her in private.
Don't be surprised...he's bucking for the VP slot. His idol worship of that psycho Rand wouldn't look good on a National stage.
This is awesome.
The Last Word - Paul Ryan rewrites Paul Ryan - YouTube
How does he think he was going to get away with this? Has he never heard of tape recorders?
This is awesome.
The Last Word - Paul Ryan rewrites Paul Ryan - YouTube
How does he think he was going to get away with this? Has he never heard of tape recorders?
The liar is the talker,,
If you'd like to see the entire quote, which I didn't catch in Comrade Larry's piece, here it is:
I reject her philosophy. Its an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a persons view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas. Dont give me Ayn Rand.
He clearly qualifies his statement to reflect his opposition to Rand's philosophy as respects to epistemology. Ryan has always supported and continues to support Rand/Hayek/Mises like ideas on economics and government.
It is reasonable to support some ideas of another person but not all, is it not? After all, MLK was a known philanderer. If you stand against cheating on your wife, does that mean your support of King's other ideas makes you hypocritical, much less a liar?
Geez guys, read the whole quote, in context, before you launch off on some lefty circle jerk.
The whole quote is WORSE! Because NOTHING Ryan has ever said falls in line with the words of Thomas Aquinas
Man should not consider his material possession his own, but as common to all, so as to share them without hesitation when others are in need.
Read more at Thomas Aquinas Quotes - Page 2 - BrainyQuote
Aquinas was a collectivist! The audio of Ryan speaking at the Atlas group function clearly has him denouncing collectivism.
The full quote only doubles down on the lie.
Really? You know everything Paul Ryan has said? Impressive. Again,NOTHING Ryan has ever said falls in line with the words of Thomas Aquinas
For the past 4 years I've heard the left-leaning posters "mitigate" Obama's questionable relationships.
I'd love to vote for someone that hasn't lied. Really I would.
But, WYGD
Obama had a fleeting acquaintance with a college professor named Bill Ayers, not a terrorist named Bill Ayers. There is no evidence that Obama knew anything about Ayers previous history when they met. Jack Nicholson did not know that his mother was really his grandmother, and his sister was really his mother, until a reporter told him in the 1980s.
There is no evidence that Obama heard anything controversial from Rev. Wright during the services he attended. Just because he was a member of a church for 20 years doesn't mean that he actually showed up at the church. Just like Reagan. Just like Bush.
But in this case, there is evidence: Paul Ryan's actual words, caught on tape, exposing him as a liar.
Rob Zerban 2012
possibly the dumbest comment you've ever made.
If you'd like to see the entire quote, which I didn't catch in Comrade Larry's piece, here it is:
I reject her philosophy. Its an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a persons view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas. Dont give me Ayn Rand.
He clearly qualifies his statement to reflect his opposition to Rand's philosophy as respects to epistemology. Ryan has always supported and continues to support Rand/Hayek/Mises like ideas on economics and government.
It is reasonable to support some ideas of another person but not all, is it not? After all, MLK was a known philanderer. If you stand against cheating on your wife, does that mean your support of King's other ideas makes you hypocritical, much less a liar?
Geez guys, read the whole quote, in context, before you launch off on some lefty circle jerk.
The whole quote is WORSE! Because NOTHING Ryan has ever said falls in line with the words of Thomas Aquinas
Aquinas was a collectivist! The audio of Ryan speaking at the Atlas group function clearly has him denouncing collectivism.
The full quote only doubles down on the lie.
This from a guy that has "Ayn Rand was a Collectivist!" in his tag line. Yea, real credible.
Really? You know everything Paul Ryan has said? Impressive. Again,NOTHING Ryan has ever said falls in line with the words of Thomas Aquinas
Why? Reagan was a member of his Washington church for all 8 years of his administration and never once went to a service.For the past 4 years I've heard the left-leaning posters "mitigate" Obama's questionable relationships.
I'd love to vote for someone that hasn't lied. Really I would.
But, WYGD
Obama had a fleeting acquaintance with a college professor named Bill Ayers, not a terrorist named Bill Ayers. There is no evidence that Obama knew anything about Ayers previous history when they met. Jack Nicholson did not know that his mother was really his grandmother, and his sister was really his mother, until a reporter told him in the 1980s.
There is no evidence that Obama heard anything controversial from Rev. Wright during the services he attended. Just because he was a member of a church for 20 years doesn't mean that he actually showed up at the church. Just like Reagan. Just like Bush.
But in this case, there is evidence: Paul Ryan's actual words, caught on tape, exposing him as a liar.
Rob Zerban 2012
possibly the dumbest comment you've ever made.
The whole quote is WORSE! Because NOTHING Ryan has ever said falls in line with the words of Thomas Aquinas
Aquinas was a collectivist! The audio of Ryan speaking at the Atlas group function clearly has him denouncing collectivism.
The full quote only doubles down on the lie.
This from a guy that has "Ayn Rand was a Collectivist!" in his tag line. Yea, real credible.
Really? You know everything Paul Ryan has said? Impressive. Again,NOTHING Ryan has ever said falls in line with the words of Thomas Aquinas
You've obviously never read Ayn Rand have you? Nathaniel Brandon?
Atlas shrugged at all?
As much as Rand rails against collectivism, she has her hero, John Galt, form a union and take that union on strike. Her solution to collectivism? More collectivism.
That's why anyone who sings the praises of the Rand philosophy is an idiot.
And read the Aquinas quote again. The individual must yeild to the common good. That's collectivism again.
Now go watch the video again, paying attention to only the audio of the Ryan speech. Forget what Lawrence ODonnel is saying. Judge Ryan on what Ryan is saying vs the ACTUAL philosophies of the two people he claims to follow.
Think for yourself and come back with an HONEST assessment.
This from a guy that has "Ayn Rand was a Collectivist!" in his tag line. Yea, real credible.
Really? You know everything Paul Ryan has said? Impressive. Again,
You've obviously never read Ayn Rand have you? Nathaniel Brandon?
Atlas shrugged at all?
As much as Rand rails against collectivism, she has her hero, John Galt, form a union and take that union on strike. Her solution to collectivism? More collectivism.
That's why anyone who sings the praises of the Rand philosophy is an idiot.
And read the Aquinas quote again. The individual must yeild to the common good. That's collectivism again.
Now go watch the video again, paying attention to only the audio of the Ryan speech. Forget what Lawrence ODonnel is saying. Judge Ryan on what Ryan is saying vs the ACTUAL philosophies of the two people he claims to follow.
Think for yourself and come back with an HONEST assessment.
Your assessment of Rand's philosophy is confused, much like anyone that calls themselves a 'Progressive Libertarian'. FAIL.
You've obviously never read Ayn Rand have you? Nathaniel Brandon?
Atlas shrugged at all?
As much as Rand rails against collectivism, she has her hero, John Galt, form a union and take that union on strike. Her solution to collectivism? More collectivism.
That's why anyone who sings the praises of the Rand philosophy is an idiot.
And read the Aquinas quote again. The individual must yeild to the common good. That's collectivism again.
Now go watch the video again, paying attention to only the audio of the Ryan speech. Forget what Lawrence ODonnel is saying. Judge Ryan on what Ryan is saying vs the ACTUAL philosophies of the two people he claims to follow.
Think for yourself and come back with an HONEST assessment.
Your assessment of Rand's philosophy is confused, much like anyone that calls themselves a 'Progressive Libertarian'. FAIL.
Keep those blinders on