Paying people off to avoid a scandal is perfectly legal

[Faun]

That money comes out of a fund for Congress, just like if a company has legal funds for settling cases of wrongdoing. I think it is ridiculous that any party should be getting their sexual harassment suits or whatever liability suit paid for with tax dollars. They rip off citizens enough already. The money should come out of their paychecks.

If Trump paying Stormy to sign an NDA is a campaign expense, then all the douchebags who used the Congressional fund to pay off sexual harassment claims also received illegal donations.

I don't think you scumbags have thought this one out. If you insist and trying to skewer Trump by labeling his payment as a campaign expense, then a lot of Dim politicians will be wriggling on the same hook.

It's a campaign contribution not an expense. An expense is paying for the plane ride to rallies... a contribution is anything of value like a cash donation, if someone caters a rally for free, or something like this where they pay someone not to say something that would damage their chances of getting elected.

Lying again, huh Lewd.

How does one make a "contribution" to their own campaign?

Donald Trump can spend as much of his own money as he pleases to try and get elected.

You Communists are such foolish little scum...

Raving lunatic, no one is contending the amount he spent to silence a porn star is illegal.

Try arguing against reality, not what your mind-altering drugs lead you to believe is real.

Virtually every snowflake in this forum is arguing exactly that, including you.

No one is, ya fucking moron. What we're saying is that his failure to report it is illegal. Dayum, you rightards are fucking nuts.

 

[bripat9643]

not yet--there wasn't trial--therefore NO crime

Cohen is going to be sentenced in December for no reason. You trump leg humpers CANNOT be this stupid.

You are making FOOLS of yourself! Stop posting stupid shit!

no trial--no crime
that's not the American way

There was a trial. It's called a bench trial. Both parties - prosecution and defense - are represented. A judge presides, charges are read, a plea is entered, and the Court makes its ruling. It's much more common than a jury trial.

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

 

[Faun]

Campaign fraud is the least of Trump's worries.

What campaign fraud, Herr Goebbels? You toss about slander with no basis.

Molesting children is the least of Chuck Schumer's worries.

I'm sure there will be a bunch of methed up Trump supporters (are there any that aren't on meth?) plowing into innocent folks with their cars and folks like you cheering them on from behind their keyboards.

I'm sure there will plenty of heroin addicted Trump haters (are there any not on heroin) out on Kristalnacht with ANTIFA like usual.

You didn't just lose an election, you lost your mind.

You're a vicious, evil little troll so consumed by rage and hatred that no reason can penetrate the boiling cauldron of shit between your ears.

Ordering subordinates to break campaign finance laws is a felony. That fits well and actually goes far beyond "high crimes and misdemeanors....but that is only the beginning. The Intel Community hates the orange king. He will go down in shame....making Nixon look like a great president.

You're a special kind of idiot. No campaign finance laws were broken. Obama ordered subordinates to break campaign finance laws. So did Hillary and so did Slick Willy. Who do you think you're fooling?

buh…. buh…. buttttttt……!!!!

 

[Faun]

Cohen is going to be sentenced in December for no reason. You trump leg humpers CANNOT be this stupid.

You are making FOOLS of yourself! Stop posting stupid shit!

no trial--no crime
that's not the American way

There was a trial. It's called a bench trial. Both parties - prosecution and defense - are represented. A judge presides, charges are read, a plea is entered, and the Court makes its ruling. It's much more common than a jury trial.

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[bripat9643]

If Trump paying Stormy to sign an NDA is a campaign expense, then all the douchebags who used the Congressional fund to pay off sexual harassment claims also received illegal donations.

I don't think you scumbags have thought this one out. If you insist and trying to skewer Trump by labeling his payment as a campaign expense, then a lot of Dim politicians will be wriggling on the same hook.

It's a campaign contribution not an expense. An expense is paying for the plane ride to rallies... a contribution is anything of value like a cash donation, if someone caters a rally for free, or something like this where they pay someone not to say something that would damage their chances of getting elected.

Lying again, huh Lewd.

How does one make a "contribution" to their own campaign?

Donald Trump can spend as much of his own money as he pleases to try and get elected.

You Communists are such foolish little scum...

Raving lunatic, no one is contending the amount he spent to silence a porn star is illegal.

Try arguing against reality, not what your mind-altering drugs lead you to believe is real.

Virtually every snowflake in this forum is arguing exactly that, including you.

No one is, ya fucking moron. What we're saying is that his failure to report it is illegal. Dayum, you rightards are fucking nuts.

ROFL! Oh yeah, now that's different!

 

[OKTexas]

LMAO, the feds have made their deal, nothing the State does will effect that. Once sentenced Cohen can tell the feds to pound sand.

I got a question, how much money can the federal government donate to a campaign?

.

Deflection. The feds can give a sentencing recommendation to a state judge...

The sentencing recommendation was part of the agreement. Why did you avoid my question?

Because your question has nothing to do with this discussion and you are just going to try and state some conspiracy theory.

1. You folks contend that paying for an NDA to avoid embarrassment before an election, is a campaign expense, right?

2. Any entity that gives a candidate more than $2,700 in an election cycle is violating campaign finance laws, right?

3. It's been proven that sitting congress critter have used taxpayer funds to pay for NDAs far in excess of allowable campaign finance laws, WHY AREN'T YOU DEMANDING THEIR PROSECUTION???????????????

.

was it during an election cycle?

The house is in a constant election cycle, they raise money all the time. But the cycle is irrelevant, the question is, was the money spent to keep the congresscritter more electable, therefore influencing an election?

.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Cohen is going to be sentenced in December for no reason. You trump leg humpers CANNOT be this stupid.

You are making FOOLS of yourself! Stop posting stupid shit!

no trial--no crime
that's not the American way

There was a trial. It's called a bench trial. Both parties - prosecution and defense - are represented. A judge presides, charges are read, a plea is entered, and the Court makes its ruling. It's much more common than a jury trial.

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

 

[bripat9643]

the federal election commission SAID it WAS a crime, and that is why Cohen was able to be charged with a crime for it by the prosecutors....

not yet--there wasn't trial--therefore NO crime

Cohen is going to be sentenced in December for no reason. You trump leg humpers CANNOT be this stupid.

You are making FOOLS of yourself! Stop posting stupid shit!

no trial--no crime
that's not the American way

There was a trial. It's called a bench trial. Both parties - prosecution and defense - are represented. A judge presides, charges are read, a plea is entered, and the Court makes its ruling. It's much more common than a jury trial.

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Once the snowflakes establish their narrative, no amount of facts can alter it.

 

[Faun]

It's a campaign contribution not an expense. An expense is paying for the plane ride to rallies... a contribution is anything of value like a cash donation, if someone caters a rally for free, or something like this where they pay someone not to say something that would damage their chances of getting elected.

Lying again, huh Lewd.

How does one make a "contribution" to their own campaign?

Donald Trump can spend as much of his own money as he pleases to try and get elected.

You Communists are such foolish little scum...

Raving lunatic, no one is contending the amount he spent to silence a porn star is illegal.

Try arguing against reality, not what your mind-altering drugs lead you to believe is real.

Virtually every snowflake in this forum is arguing exactly that, including you.

No one is, ya fucking moron. What we're saying is that his failure to report it is illegal. Dayum, you rightards are fucking nuts.

ROFL! Oh yeah, now that's different!

LOLOL

Fucking moron, yes, the amount he paid Stormy IS different from him not reporting it.

You are unbelievably retarded to be incapable of comprehending the difference.

 

[bripat9643]

no trial--no crime
that's not the American way

There was a trial. It's called a bench trial. Both parties - prosecution and defense - are represented. A judge presides, charges are read, a plea is entered, and the Court makes its ruling. It's much more common than a jury trial.

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

 

[bripat9643]

Lying again, huh Lewd.

How does one make a "contribution" to their own campaign?

Donald Trump can spend as much of his own money as he pleases to try and get elected.

You Communists are such foolish little scum...

Raving lunatic, no one is contending the amount he spent to silence a porn star is illegal.

Try arguing against reality, not what your mind-altering drugs lead you to believe is real.

Virtually every snowflake in this forum is arguing exactly that, including you.

No one is, ya fucking moron. What we're saying is that his failure to report it is illegal. Dayum, you rightards are fucking nuts.

ROFL! Oh yeah, now that's different!

LOLOL

Fucking moron, yes, the amount he paid Stormy IS different from him not reporting it.

You are unbelievably retarded to be incapable of comprehending the difference.

You're too far gone into insanity to waste time disputing your incoherent mutterings.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There was a trial. It's called a bench trial. Both parties - prosecution and defense - are represented. A judge presides, charges are read, a plea is entered, and the Court makes its ruling. It's much more common than a jury trial.

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

Mueller had nothing to do with the plea agreement, it was between Cohen and the Southern District of New York.

 

[bripat9643]

1. You folks contend that paying for an NDA to avoid embarrassment before an election, is a campaign expense, right?

2. Any entity that gives a candidate more than $2,700 in an election cycle is violating campaign finance laws, right?

3. It's been proven that sitting congress critter have used taxpayer funds to pay for NDAs far in excess of allowable campaign finance laws, WHY AREN'T YOU DEMANDING THEIR PROSECUTION???????????????

.

You mean like Republican Blake Farenthold?

I mean anyone of either party. Should they be prosecuted for campaign finance violations? They accepted money far beyond the donation limits to pay for what you and your ilk say is a campaign expense.

.

That money comes out of a fund for Congress, just like if a company has legal funds for settling cases of wrongdoing. I think it is ridiculous that any party should be getting their sexual harassment suits or whatever liability suit paid for with tax dollars. They rip off citizens enough already. The money should come out of their paychecks.

If Trump paying Stormy to sign an NDA is a campaign expense, then all the douchebags who used the Congressional fund to pay off sexual harassment claims also received illegal donations.

I don't think you scumbags have thought this one out. If you insist and trying to skewer Trump by labeling his payment as a campaign expense, then a lot of Dim politicians will be wriggling on the same hook.

It's a campaign contribution not an expense. An expense is paying for the plane ride to rallies... a contribution is anything of value like a cash donation, if someone caters a rally for free, or something like this where they pay someone not to say something that would damage their chances of getting elected.

I'm done trying to convince you psychos that a triangle has 3 sides. You will continue to insist it has 4 sides until doomsday.

 

[Faun]

There was a trial. It's called a bench trial. Both parties - prosecution and defense - are represented. A judge presides, charges are read, a plea is entered, and the Court makes its ruling. It's much more common than a jury trial.

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

You're insane to think a lawyer would plead guilty to a non-crime when all it would take to walk free is a motion to dismiss based on improper charges.

But then again, you have proven time and time again what a fucking moron you are.

 

[bripat9643]

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

Mueller had nothing to do with the plea agreement, it was between Cohen and the Southern District of New York.

Yeah, right, and Slick Willie never had sex with Monica.

 

[bripat9643]

That's not a "trial," it is a ruling. The court ruled to accept the contract of the plea arrangement in lieu of a trial.

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

You're insane to think a lawyer would plead guilty to a non-crime when all it would take to walk free is a motion to dismiss based on improper charges.

But then again, you have proven time and time again what a fucking moron you are.

It's a plea agreement, numskull. If he has an issue with the charges, he simply refuses to accept them. Those are his choices. He can't accept the plea and then complain it's improper.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

Mueller had nothing to do with the plea agreement, it was between Cohen and the Southern District of New York.

Yeah, right, and Slick Willie never had sex with Monica.

Feel free to offer some evidence to support you claim, till then it is just the rantings of a desperate sheep

 

[Faun]

Raving lunatic, no one is contending the amount he spent to silence a porn star is illegal.

Try arguing against reality, not what your mind-altering drugs lead you to believe is real.

Virtually every snowflake in this forum is arguing exactly that, including you.

No one is, ya fucking moron. What we're saying is that his failure to report it is illegal. Dayum, you rightards are fucking nuts.

ROFL! Oh yeah, now that's different!

LOLOL

Fucking moron, yes, the amount he paid Stormy IS different from him not reporting it.

You are unbelievably retarded to be incapable of comprehending the difference.

You're too far gone into insanity to waste time disputing your incoherent mutterings.

Watch me prove you're a fucking moron.....

You claim I said Trump's crime was based on how much he personally contributed his campaign....

Raving lunatic, no one is contending the amount he spent to silence a porn star is illegal.

Virtually every snowflake in this forum is arguing exactly that, including you.

…. so either you can quote me saying the amount he gave is what violated the law or you prove I'm right when I point out you're a fucking moron.....

Choice is yours.....

 

[bripat9643]

There's no evidence Trump has sex with Stormy other than her say-so.

Right, because people always pay off someone to keep quite about having sex with them when they did not have sex with them.

Damn, you are getting more desperate and more pathetic with each post.

Billionaires do it all the time. We understand that know one is going to hold a loser like you up for ransom. What could they get, a few CDs?

Can you provide some other examples of billionaires paying off people they did not even have sex with?

I do not cheat on my wife, so I do not have to worry such things. How many times have you been caught doing so?

You did not cheat on your wife because you never had the kind of opportunities shoved in your face that Trump has. He's a famous billionaire, and you're a loser posting on a bulletin board. How many gorgeous porno stars or beauty pageant winners have thrown themselves at you? We all know that none have. Your belief that you would not have indulged if you had been tested in such a way doesn't pass the laugh test.

I've seen some pretty fucking ugly people that have cheated on their significant other. People don't cheat on their partners with only playboy models and porn stars.

Ugly losers generally don't get many attractive propositions. You got to be a real dumbass to think they do.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Cohen is as guilty now as he would have if he had a trial. He spoke under oath on a courtroom saying trump ordered him to commit a felony.

Sooner or later trump will have to speak under oath about this crime and many more. Just a matter of time....

Wrong, idiot. Pleading guilty to a non crime doesn't make you guilty of a crime.

Saying it's a non-crime doesn't make it so - particularly when a statute says it is a crime.

Well, not in the real world, but in Trumplandia, I suppose a crime is whatever Trump says it is.

The fact that it's a non crime is what makes it a non crime. A crime isn't whatever Cohen blurts out because of a plea agreement. Meuller was the author of Cohen's plea agreement. That much is clear. All you psycho snowflakes behave as if Mueller is infallible.

You're insane to think a lawyer would plead guilty to a non-crime when all it would take to walk free is a motion to dismiss based on improper charges.

But then again, you have proven time and time again what a fucking moron you are.

It's a plea agreement, numskull. If he has an issue with the charges, he simply refuses to accept them. Those are his choices. He can't accept the plea and then complain it's improper.

That still does not explain why a lawyer would plead guilty to a non-crime when all it would take to walk free is a motion to dismiss based on improper charges.

And if it is a "non-crime" why is the statute that was broken listed in the plea agreement?