Phoenix mosque to be target of Muhammad cartoon contest

The mosque is a symbol of the religion, demonstrating in front of a symbol is mocking a religion and NOT a follower.
Please tell me that you really aren't this stupid...........on second thought.........never mind. ....... :cool:

I'm not. It only appears that way to you because you both aren't smart enough to understand it or mature enough to admit the truth of it.
 
manners are free expression and can be exercised at a persons discretion unless the person is bossed around by his bosses Coyote . Americans have no bosses on their free political speech Coyote . [yet]
PHOENIX -- Local police and the FBI say they're aware that a man is planning a rally outside a Phoenix mosque during Friday prayer services that will include a contest of drawings depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Phoenix mosque to be target of Muhammad cartoon contest - CBS News

On the one hand, you have a Constitution given right to protect your freedom of speech. On the other hand, why do you need to be an asshole in order to enjoy this kind of freedom? Of course, you can call Muslims savages and portray their Prophet in a negative way but why? Why do you have to insult other people on purpose in order to express yourself and prove you are still free? I don't understand that. There are a lot of things you are allowed to do in this country. Yet, knowing that it can be insulting for your friends, relatives and other people, you don't do them. Why don't we treat Muslims the same way?

It's defiance. Pure and simple and noble.


Why is deliberately hurting innocent people who've done nothing to you "pure and simple and noble"?

Why does it "hurt" them? How does a contest that they are not part, and of not forced to be part of, hurt them?

It's pure and simple and noble because it is defiance of oppression. It is bravery in the face of threats of violence from a barbaric cult.


So...a "cartoon contest" - who's design is to insult Mohammed and Islam - held in FRONT of a house of worship is not "hurting" people?

Why must it be in front of a Mosque at Friday prayers?

Who is going to view it as they have to walk past it in order to get in?

Who are those worshippers "oppressing"?

Why is deliberately hurting these particular men, women, and children "pure and simple and noble"?
they by their rules and opinions are TRYING to oppress , intimidate plus I hear that this mosque is where the 'jihadi' came from Coyote .
 
manners are free expression and can be exercised at a persons discretion unless the person is bossed around by his bosses Coyote . Americans have no bosses on their free political speech Coyote . [yet]
PHOENIX -- Local police and the FBI say they're aware that a man is planning a rally outside a Phoenix mosque during Friday prayer services that will include a contest of drawings depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Phoenix mosque to be target of Muhammad cartoon contest - CBS News

On the one hand, you have a Constitution given right to protect your freedom of speech. On the other hand, why do you need to be an asshole in order to enjoy this kind of freedom? Of course, you can call Muslims savages and portray their Prophet in a negative way but why? Why do you have to insult other people on purpose in order to express yourself and prove you are still free? I don't understand that. There are a lot of things you are allowed to do in this country. Yet, knowing that it can be insulting for your friends, relatives and other people, you don't do them. Why don't we treat Muslims the same way?

It's defiance. Pure and simple and noble.


Why is deliberately hurting innocent people who've done nothing to you "pure and simple and noble"?

Why does it "hurt" them? How does a contest that they are not part, and of not forced to be part of, hurt them?

It's pure and simple and noble because it is defiance of oppression. It is bravery in the face of threats of violence from a barbaric cult.


So...a "cartoon contest" - who's design is to insult Mohammed and Islam - held in FRONT of a house of worship is not "hurting" people?

Why must it be in front of a Mosque at Friday prayers?

Who is going to view it as they have to walk past it in order to get in?

Who are those worshippers "oppressing"?

Why is deliberately hurting these particular men, women, and children "pure and simple and noble"?

Did you not read the post you quoted? I already explained it.
 
I mean , check out the Koran , see what it says about cartoons , pictures of mohamad Coyote .
 
Sooner or later, this country will be forced to stop ignoring Islam and start dealing with them. How many people will have to die first? That depends on how long we continue to deny the truth.
 
I'm Christian by birth but not particularly religious. I find it sadly ironic that the people who think it's wrong to mock Muhammad are the same people who tell Christians to lighten up when Christianity is mocked. It's also funny how these left wing nutters develop amnesia all of a sudden so they can't seem to remember Christianity ever being mocked.

What also pegs the Irony Meter is that Islam is everything that the left is supposed to hate, only twice so. They are violent, homophobic in the extreme, misogynist to a fault, and they have no quarrel with the belief that others should be forced to obey their laws.

Kudos to those brave and defiant souls who demonstrate to Islam that they don't intimidate everyone. The day that they hold a drawing contest here in Orlando, I will enter. I'm a pretty good cartoonist myself.

Why? Because fuck them and fuck Muhammad.


There is a difference between mocking a religion and choosing to insult a follower. One is general, on is specific and designed to be hurtful. Printing anti-religious cartoons in a publication known for it's irreverence is an example of the former. Demonstrating in front of a place of worship with signs designed to hurt, inflame and demonize is an example of the latter.

Not true. The mosque is a symbol of the religion, demonstrating in front of a symbol is mocking a religion and NOT a follower.

The mosque is also a symbol of the community - it's a community center with family activities, children's activities, and worship. When you're demonstrating in front of it with hateful signs you are no more demonstrating against the religion than neo-nazi protestors protesting in front of a synagogue.

Wrong. You can twist it any way you want it the Mosque is a symbol of Islam. See if you can answer this question honestly:

Do you think that those people who are protesting, are protesting against that community or against Islam?

They chose a specific place and group of people. This wasn't just a general event. It was designed to hurt people who's place of worship was being targeted.
 
I don't see what the problem is, Islam is the religion of peace and the Muslims are always preaching tolerance. If all this is true there should be no problems at the mosque. (Comment dripping with sarcasm)
 
and muslims would like their rules and laws to apply to Americans Coyote !!

I won't hold my breath because there has never been any evidence to support it but here goes - do you have any evidence that Muslims in America want to impose sharia?
 
FREE speech and expression hurts no one Coyote !!
FREE speech and expression hurts no one Coyote !!

Tell that to all those people who were offended and emotionally hurt by Westboro Baptist church. This is no different... yet, America worships soldiers, so of course they will stick up for us against Westboro. But America hates Muslims, so very few people will stick up for the Muslims against this hateful bigotry.

It disgusts me that there are people who use their freedoms this way. Their "rights". Why must they do this right outside of a holy place during a large gathering of worshippers where there will be plenty of innocent men and women and families and children just peacefully worshipping?

One needn't inflict physical pain on another in order to hurt them.

 
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PHOENIX -- Local police and the FBI say they're aware that a man is planning a rally outside a Phoenix mosque during Friday prayer services that will include a contest of drawings depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Phoenix mosque to be target of Muhammad cartoon contest - CBS News

On the one hand, you have a Constitution given right to protect your freedom of speech. On the other hand, why do you need to be an asshole in order to enjoy this kind of freedom? Of course, you can call Muslims savages and portray their Prophet in a negative way but why? Why do you have to insult other people on purpose in order to express yourself and prove you are still free? I don't understand that. There are a lot of things you are allowed to do in this country. Yet, knowing that it can be insulting for your friends, relatives and other people, you don't do them. Why don't we treat Muslims the same way?

It's defiance. Pure and simple and noble.


Why is deliberately hurting innocent people who've done nothing to you "pure and simple and noble"?
What gives, I thought the Left likes and supports edgy and irreverent art.

How come you won't give government funding to these cartoons like you did to Serrano's "Piss Christ" piece?

Just because someone says it's art doesn't make it art. Who's this "you"? I don't support funding Piss Christ as "art".

The cat is already out of the bag, you gave funding to Piss Christ, the draw Muhammad cartoonists will be expecting their checks in the mail. If you could dial back to faux outrage and not be so prude about edgy art it would be appreciated as well.
 
Ah, isn't the First Amendment grand? :)

Indeed it is :)

Free speech is grand and one of our most important rights!

German Artist Rolls Prayer Rugs in Square against IslamophobiaMorocco World News
In response to the growing anti-Islamic movement led by Pegida “European Patriots against the Islamization of the West” in Germany, renowned artist Kurt Fleckenstein rolled on Monday evening 175 prayer rugs in Dresden Neumarkt to express support for Muslims.
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Phoenix mosque to be target of Muhammad cartoon contest - CBS News

On the one hand, you have a Constitution given right to protect your freedom of speech. On the other hand, why do you need to be an asshole in order to enjoy this kind of freedom? Of course, you can call Muslims savages and portray their Prophet in a negative way but why? Why do you have to insult other people on purpose in order to express yourself and prove you are still free? I don't understand that. There are a lot of things you are allowed to do in this country. Yet, knowing that it can be insulting for your friends, relatives and other people, you don't do them. Why don't we treat Muslims the same way?

It's defiance. Pure and simple and noble.


Why is deliberately hurting innocent people who've done nothing to you "pure and simple and noble"?
What gives, I thought the Left likes and supports edgy and irreverent art.

How come you won't give government funding to these cartoons like you did to Serrano's "Piss Christ" piece?

Just because someone says it's art doesn't make it art. Who's this "you"? I don't support funding Piss Christ as "art".

The cat is already out of the bag, you gave funding to Piss Christ, the draw Muhammad cartoonists will be expecting their checks in the mail. If you could dial back to faux outrage and not be so prude about edgy art it would be appreciated as well.

Uh what? No. I did not give funding to Piss Christ. Try to get your facts straight. Strike that. Find some facts first.
 
manners are free expression and can be exercised at a persons discretion unless the person is bossed around by his bosses Coyote . Americans have no bosses on their free political speech Coyote . [yet]
Phoenix mosque to be target of Muhammad cartoon contest - CBS News

On the one hand, you have a Constitution given right to protect your freedom of speech. On the other hand, why do you need to be an asshole in order to enjoy this kind of freedom? Of course, you can call Muslims savages and portray their Prophet in a negative way but why? Why do you have to insult other people on purpose in order to express yourself and prove you are still free? I don't understand that. There are a lot of things you are allowed to do in this country. Yet, knowing that it can be insulting for your friends, relatives and other people, you don't do them. Why don't we treat Muslims the same way?

It's defiance. Pure and simple and noble.


Why is deliberately hurting innocent people who've done nothing to you "pure and simple and noble"?

Why does it "hurt" them? How does a contest that they are not part, and of not forced to be part of, hurt them?

It's pure and simple and noble because it is defiance of oppression. It is bravery in the face of threats of violence from a barbaric cult.


So...a "cartoon contest" - who's design is to insult Mohammed and Islam - held in FRONT of a house of worship is not "hurting" people?

Why must it be in front of a Mosque at Friday prayers?

Who is going to view it as they have to walk past it in order to get in?

Who are those worshippers "oppressing"?

Why is deliberately hurting these particular men, women, and children "pure and simple and noble"?
they by their rules and opinions are TRYING to oppress , intimidate plus I hear that this mosque is where the 'jihadi' came from Coyote .

You are dodging the questions.

Why must it be in front of a Mosque at Friday prayers?

Who is going to view it as they have to walk past it in order to get in?

Who are those worshippers "oppressing"?

Why is deliberately hurting these particular men, women, and children "pure and simple and noble"?


And, I'll add - are houses of worship responsible for the acts of it's individual members?

Who is "they"?
 
Phoenix mosque to be target of Muhammad cartoon contest - CBS News

On the one hand, you have a Constitution given right to protect your freedom of speech. On the other hand, why do you need to be an asshole in order to enjoy this kind of freedom? Of course, you can call Muslims savages and portray their Prophet in a negative way but why? Why do you have to insult other people on purpose in order to express yourself and prove you are still free? I don't understand that. There are a lot of things you are allowed to do in this country. Yet, knowing that it can be insulting for your friends, relatives and other people, you don't do them. Why don't we treat Muslims the same way?

It's defiance. Pure and simple and noble.


Why is deliberately hurting innocent people who've done nothing to you "pure and simple and noble"?

Why does it "hurt" them? How does a contest that they are not part, and of not forced to be part of, hurt them?

It's pure and simple and noble because it is defiance of oppression. It is bravery in the face of threats of violence from a barbaric cult.

It is bad manners just as sticking your middle finger in somebody's face is bad manners. I would like to think we Americans are better than that. And that bad manners would be something discouraged and condemned instead of applauded whether it is directed at Christians or Jews or Muslims or people of different races or accordian players.

I am as angry and appalled as anybody at Islamic militancy that physically hurts people. That should be tolerable nowhere. But that should be dealt with via the law--either the Muslims adopt a live and let live attitude and behave themselves as honorable and decent citizens or they should be in jail or deported. And if we expect Muslims to demonstrate good manners related to the rest of society, we should expect the rest of society to demonstrate good manners toward Muslims.

It is as wrong for us to taunt and insult peaceful Muslims as it is wrong for Islam to punish the innocent for some perceived offense.

Bad manners, got it.

We are going to fight radical Islam with good manners. Oooookaaaaayyy.

If that is what you got out of my post, I truly do think we are all doomed to ignorance and more stupidity instead of seeing the wisdom of becoming the grown ups in the room. But oh well. . .
 
Ah, isn't the First Amendment grand? :)

Indeed it is :)

Free speech is grand and one of our most important rights!

German Artist Rolls Prayer Rugs in Square against IslamophobiaMorocco World News
In response to the growing anti-Islamic movement led by Pegida “European Patriots against the Islamization of the West” in Germany, renowned artist Kurt Fleckenstein rolled on Monday evening 175 prayer rugs in Dresden Neumarkt to express support for Muslims.
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The UK isn't exactly a paragon of free speech.

You can be arrested for tweeting mean things at people in the UK.

Teenager arrested in connection with racist tweet aimed at Danny Welbeck after Arsenal FA Cup win over Manchester United Daily Mail Online

Wouldn't be holding them up as an example if I were you.
 
What are you going to do when unveiled women in short skirts are offensive? The restaurant opening right next door to a mosque isn't halal. That's offensive and insulting.
 
Ah, isn't the First Amendment grand? :)

Indeed it is :)

Free speech is grand and one of our most important rights!

German Artist Rolls Prayer Rugs in Square against IslamophobiaMorocco World News
In response to the growing anti-Islamic movement led by Pegida “European Patriots against the Islamization of the West” in Germany, renowned artist Kurt Fleckenstein rolled on Monday evening 175 prayer rugs in Dresden Neumarkt to express support for Muslims.
timthumb.php


UAF-demo-Nov-2010.jpg


ismarch-620x300.jpg
The UK isn't exactly a paragon of free speech.

You can be arrested for tweeting mean things at people in the UK.

Teenager arrested in connection with racist tweet aimed at Danny Welbeck after Arsenal FA Cup win over Manchester United Daily Mail Online

Wouldn't be holding them up as an example if I were you.

There not intended to be an example of free speech but rather, how valuable free speech is. When it comes to free speech I think America is the strongest defender.
 

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