Planned Parenthood Scandal Proves that Liberals Like Elizabeth Warren Are Bullies : ZoNation Read mo

[2aguy]

"Planned Parenthood Scandal Proves that Liberals Like Elizabeth Warren Are Bullies"

No, it proves most on the right are liars – Planned Parenthood violated no laws, the only 'scandal' is that of the lies contrived and propagated by the right.

If you in all good conscious can view the videos and feel that PP did absolutely noting wrong, then you are a very stoic human being; one who can look the other way whenever morality is lurking around the corner.

Stoic isn't the word I would use.....inhumane......perhaps...especially in clayton's case....

 

[Lilah]

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

 

[daws101]

Planned Parenthood doesn't do anything different than what is done when people donate their own organs. Republicans edited a video to push their sick agenda where they give a zygote more importance than a full grown woman.


Republican politicians have grabbed on to "anti-abortion" as their main issue because it is the only means that they can get votes from people that are well-intended but are not informed enough to know any better. They pander to their emotional state and have them so convinced that abortion is so evil that even if a woman is at risk for their life, they should not opt for an abortion.


Over-the-top outrage is the emotion of the day for Republicans as they respond to the latest misleading, heavily edited video attacking Planned Parenthood. The video shows Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood's senior director of medical services, talking about voluntary fetal tissue donation and the reimbursements for the costs of doing that. It's being depicted as some lurid plot to sell bodies, but really it's ... organ donation. You know, like you can register to donate your own organs when you renew your driver's license?
Republicans outraged by organ and tissue donation ... if Planned Parenthood is involved

Planned parenthood is a non-profit.

Planned parenthood did knowingly sell these body parts...



Then Planned Parenthood should lose their non-profit status.

*****SMILE*****

Good tune, false comparison

I don't think so.

If they're turning around selling off organs they are a 'for' profit organization.

*****SMILE*****

Tull you gotta be fucking kidding.

 

[Lilah]

You must really be irate knowing that Dr. Ben Carson operated on a zygote while it was still inside its mother's womb. What a waste of talent, huh?

Really? This is a picture of a zygote.....

I can't imagine how Dr. Carson would be operating on a zygote, since the phase of the zygote is about 4 days....hardly enough time to figure out that something is wrong with it, schedule an operation and then operate. I think you are delusional.

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

Well....does that mean I can determine that your life hasn't really begun yet.....do you want me to make decisions about you based on that freedom, moron........you might not like the outcome if you hold onto that belief system....


And they weren't cutting up zygotes...they were cutting up small human beings with arms, legs, a head, and internal organs....nice try at lying guys..........

Again, see Post #145.

I'm not interested in Post #145; I'm interested in the truth.

 

[daws101]

"Planned Parenthood Scandal Proves that Liberals Like Elizabeth Warren Are Bullies"

No, it proves most on the right are liars – Planned Parenthood violated no laws, the only 'scandal' is that of the lies contrived and propagated by the right.

If you in all good conscious can view the videos and feel that PP did absolutely noting wrong, then you are a very stoic human being; one who can look the other way whenever morality is lurking around the corner.

Don't you mean immortality?

 

[daws101]

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

 

[Lilah]

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Planned Parenthood doesn't do anything different than what is done when people donate their own organs. Republicans edited a video to push their sick agenda where they give a zygote more importance than a full grown woman.


Republican politicians have grabbed on to "anti-abortion" as their main issue because it is the only means that they can get votes from people that are well-intended but are not informed enough to know any better. They pander to their emotional state and have them so convinced that abortion is so evil that even if a woman is at risk for their life, they should not opt for an abortion.


Over-the-top outrage is the emotion of the day for Republicans as they respond to the latest misleading, heavily edited video attacking Planned Parenthood. The video shows Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood's senior director of medical services, talking about voluntary fetal tissue donation and the reimbursements for the costs of doing that. It's being depicted as some lurid plot to sell bodies, but really it's ... organ donation. You know, like you can register to donate your own organs when you renew your driver's license?
Republicans outraged by organ and tissue donation ... if Planned Parenthood is involved

Planned parenthood is a non-profit.

Planned parenthood did knowingly sell these body parts...



Then Planned Parenthood should lose their non-profit status.

*****SMILE*****

Good tune, false comparison

I don't think so.

If they're turning around selling off organs they are a 'for' profit organization.

*****SMILE*****

Tull you gotta be fucking kidding.

So the best response you have is to criticize of my music choice.

I must have hit home with the for profit comment.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[daws101]

Planned Parenthood doesn't do anything different than what is done when people donate their own organs. Republicans edited a video to push their sick agenda where they give a zygote more importance than a full grown woman.


Republican politicians have grabbed on to "anti-abortion" as their main issue because it is the only means that they can get votes from people that are well-intended but are not informed enough to know any better. They pander to their emotional state and have them so convinced that abortion is so evil that even if a woman is at risk for their life, they should not opt for an abortion.


Over-the-top outrage is the emotion of the day for Republicans as they respond to the latest misleading, heavily edited video attacking Planned Parenthood. The video shows Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood's senior director of medical services, talking about voluntary fetal tissue donation and the reimbursements for the costs of doing that. It's being depicted as some lurid plot to sell bodies, but really it's ... organ donation. You know, like you can register to donate your own organs when you renew your driver's license?
Republicans outraged by organ and tissue donation ... if Planned Parenthood is involved

Planned parenthood is a non-profit.

Planned parenthood did knowingly sell these body parts...



Then Planned Parenthood should lose their non-profit status.

*****SMILE*****

Good tune, false comparison

I don't think so.

If they're turning around selling off organs they are a 'for' profit organization.

*****SMILE*****

Tull you gotta be fucking kidding.

So the best response you have is to criticize of my music choice.

I must have hit home with the for profit comment.

*****CHUCKLE*****

yes the rest is just propaganda
here's a tune that's much more to the point :

Will The Fetus Be Aborted lyrics

• Highlight lyrics and explain them to earn Karma points.

Jello Biafra – Will The Fetus Be Aborted lyrics
Peggy Sue
Got pregnant
And was addicted to fifteen drugs
She went down
To the abortion clinic
And was accosted
By right wing thugs

[Chorus:]
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There's a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky

Little Mary
Was just eleven
And she was raped
By her own dad
Danny Quayle said
"Have that baby"
But another choice
She said

[Chorus:]

Annie's pregnancy
Would kill her
Doctor's warning
Gave her strife
Fundamentalists
Said "Jesus take her"
She said, "I want
My right to life"

[Chorus:]

Kathy had two
Kids already
And an abortion
Is what she chose
Christian showed her
A bloody fetus
She said "That's fine
I'll have one of those. "

[Chorus:]

Tanya lived for
Revolution
Wanted to overthrow
The state
She had fifteen
Commie babies
Phylis Schlafly
Ain't that great?

Or will the fetus
Be aborted...




Lyrics taken from Jello Biafra - Will The Fetus Be Aborted lyrics LyricsMode.com

 

[daws101]

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

 

[Lilah]

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Wrong again.

As fact of law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

No one is advocating 'killing a baby.'

Abortion is not 'killing a baby.'

You only make yourself look ridiculous with these lies.

 

[Freewill]

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Wrong again.

As fact of law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

No one is advocating 'killing a baby.'

Abortion is not 'killing a baby.'

You only make yourself look ridiculous with these lies.

Can you site the specific language where the dictionary definition of a fetus is changed by law? If not killing a baby then what exactly is being killed?

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
   synonyms: embryo, unborn baby/child
   "an ultrasonic photo of the fetus"

fetus

noun fe·tus \ˈfē-təs\
: a human being or animal in the later stages of development before it is born

Fetus definition - MedicineNet - Health and Medical Information Produced by Doctors

Fetus: An unborn offspring, from the embryo stage (the end of the eighth week after conception, when the major structures have formed) until birth

 

[Lilah]

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Wrong again.

As fact of law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

No one is advocating 'killing a baby.'

Abortion is not 'killing a baby.'

You only make yourself look ridiculous with these lies.

From your mind fall the words, a fetus is not a baby and abortion does not kill a baby.
From the minds of two gifted and brilliant doctors, Dr. Darrell Cass and Dr. Obuyinka Obutoye, they believed they could save a baby inside the mother's womb. They operated on the baby and removed a tumor from his chest, and found themselves holding the 5 month old baby's hand before they placed him back inside. The little boy survived.
Ridiculous, I think not.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Planned parenthood is a non-profit.

Planned parenthood did knowingly sell these body parts...



Then Planned Parenthood should lose their non-profit status.

*****SMILE*****

Good tune, false comparison

I don't think so.

If they're turning around selling off organs they are a 'for' profit organization.

*****SMILE*****

Tull you gotta be fucking kidding.

So the best response you have is to criticize of my music choice.

I must have hit home with the for profit comment.

*****CHUCKLE*****

yes the rest is just propaganda
here's a tune that's much more to the point :

Will The Fetus Be Aborted lyrics

• Highlight lyrics and explain them to earn Karma points.

Jello Biafra – Will The Fetus Be Aborted lyrics
Peggy Sue
Got pregnant
And was addicted to fifteen drugs
She went down
To the abortion clinic
And was accosted
By right wing thugs

[Chorus:]
Oh will the fetus
Be aborted
By and by Lord
By and by
There's a better
Home awaiting
In the sky Lord
In the sky

Little Mary
Was just eleven
And she was raped
By her own dad
Danny Quayle said
"Have that baby"
But another choice
She said

[Chorus:]

Annie's pregnancy
Would kill her
Doctor's warning
Gave her strife
Fundamentalists
Said "Jesus take her"
She said, "I want
My right to life"

[Chorus:]

Kathy had two
Kids already
And an abortion
Is what she chose
Christian showed her
A bloody fetus
She said "That's fine
I'll have one of those. "

[Chorus:]

Tanya lived for
Revolution
Wanted to overthrow
The state
She had fifteen
Commie babies
Phylis Schlafly
Ain't that great?

Or will the fetus
Be aborted...




Lyrics taken from Jello Biafra - Will The Fetus Be Aborted lyrics LyricsMode.com

They need to add to the song... Something about how Planned Parenthood talked her into aborting so the people in charge of Planned Parenthood could take a big pay raise for their efforts as they break up the aborted infant and sell the body parts all for the good of humanity.

*****SARCASTIC CHUCKLE*****

Harry Chapin - Circle - YouTube

 

[daws101]

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Another ridiculous rationalization

 

[Lilah]

Suction Aspiration/Suction Curettage

A suction aspiration type of abortion is very common in the first trimester. The mother’s cervix is dilated so that a cannula, a hollow plastic tube, can be inserted into the uterus. It is connected to a vacuum pump. This vacuum suction is 29 times more powerful than a household vacuum cleaner, as mentioned in the LifeNews article. And as Priests for Life mentions, ”[t]he abortionist runs the tip of the cannula along the surface of the uteruscausing the baby to be dislodged and sucked into the tube – either whole or in pieces.” The amniotic fluid, placenta, and other body parts are then also sucked out and collected in a jar.

What exactly is this procedure used for if not to kill a heartbeat?

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Another ridiculous rationalization

Would you please interpret your rationalization.

 

[daws101]

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Wrong again.

As fact of law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

No one is advocating 'killing a baby.'

Abortion is not 'killing a baby.'

You only make yourself look ridiculous with these lies.

Can you site the specific language where the dictionary definition of a fetus is changed by law? If not killing a baby then what exactly is being killed?

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
   synonyms: embryo, unborn baby/child
   "an ultrasonic photo of the fetus"

fetus

noun fe·tus \ˈfē-təs\
: a human being or animal in the later stages of development before it is born

Fetus definition - MedicineNet - Health and Medical Information Produced by Doctors

Fetus: An unborn offspring, from the embryo stage (the end of the eighth week after conception, when the major structures have formed) until birth

Unborn is the operative word

 

[daws101]

Oh no not the abortion procedure ploy again!

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Another ridiculous rationalization

Would you please interpret your rationalization.

No I'm not the one who's rationalizing.

 

[Lilah]

If you want to discuss a baby as being nothing more than a clump of cells with a beating heart, then at least be willing to discuss the procedures used to end that beating heart. If you find the procedures to be nothing more than simple of method of removal, then say so. Don't dismiss the procedures as ploys.

why not, the way you are using them, that's just what they are, ploys
you guys yammer on about the pain it causes .
fact is, the procedure is so fast any pain would be minimal, besides it's nothing compared to the horror and pain experienced by abused and unwanted children.

Abortion is legal in this country, and people should be aware of abortion procedures. If your heart and limbs were being sucked into oblivion, I'm sure your pain would be minimal.
It appears you are advocating killing the baby before he/she has a chance at life because according to your viewpoint, life would only lead to horrific abuse. Are you experiencing horrific abuse?

Wrong again.

As fact of law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby.'

No one is advocating 'killing a baby.'

Abortion is not 'killing a baby.'

You only make yourself look ridiculous with these lies.

Can you site the specific language where the dictionary definition of a fetus is changed by law? If not killing a baby then what exactly is being killed?

fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
   synonyms: embryo, unborn baby/child
   "an ultrasonic photo of the fetus"

fetus

noun fe·tus \ˈfē-təs\
: a human being or animal in the later stages of development before it is born

Fetus definition - MedicineNet - Health and Medical Information Produced by Doctors

Fetus: An unborn offspring, from the embryo stage (the end of the eighth week after conception, when the major structures have formed) until birth

Unborn is the operative word

So ... if anyone says the operative word, unborn, you are okay with stopping the heartbeat?