Planned Parenthood Scandal Proves that Liberals Like Elizabeth Warren Are Bullies : ZoNation Read mo

[Freewill]

You must really be irate knowing that Dr. Ben Carson operated on a zygote while it was still inside its mother's womb. What a waste of talent, huh?

Really? This is a picture of a zygote.....

I can't imagine how Dr. Carson would be operating on a zygote, since the phase of the zygote is about 4 days....hardly enough time to figure out that something is wrong with it, schedule an operation and then operate. I think you are delusional.

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

 

[Freewill]

There is no scandal at Planned Parenthood unless you count the invented one from the rightwing propaganda machine.

No scandal in auto parts stores.

No scandal in wrecking yards where CARS are parted out.

But, OK, there is no legal requirement that anyone respect the sanctity of the human body.

Sadly.

You don't realize apparently that every organ transplant that is performed necessitates the use of human organs from another human body,

right?

Or don't you realize that?

Yeah....but we aren't murdering people to get those organs are we....that is the difference.....

Emotional meltdown rhetoric. Get a grip.

It is sad...there are lefty nut jobs who won't eat an animal if it has a face...but will kill a baby even when it actually has a human face.........

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Planned Parenthood Scandal Proves that Liberals Like Elizabeth Warren Are Bullies"

No, it proves most on the right are liars – Planned Parenthood violated no laws, the only 'scandal' is that of the lies contrived and propagated by the right.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Really? This is a picture of a zygote.....

I can't imagine how Dr. Carson would be operating on a zygote, since the phase of the zygote is about 4 days....hardly enough time to figure out that something is wrong with it, schedule an operation and then operate. I think you are delusional.

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

Dred Scott WAS the law until it was changed.

You want personhood for fetuses, amend the Constitution.

There is no scandal at Planned Parenthood unless you count the invented one from the rightwing propaganda machine.

No scandal in auto parts stores.

No scandal in wrecking yards where CARS are parted out.

But, OK, there is no legal requirement that anyone respect the sanctity of the human body.

Sadly.

You don't realize apparently that every organ transplant that is performed necessitates the use of human organs from another human body,

right?

Or don't you realize that?

Yeah....but we aren't murdering people to get those organs are we....that is the difference.....

Emotional meltdown rhetoric. Get a grip.

It is sad...there are lefty nut jobs who won't eat an animal if it has a face...but will kill a baby even when it actually has a human face.........

So you'd be a cannibal if it was legal? Or are you one anyway?

Whoa, the creepy stuff you learn on USMB.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Really? This is a picture of a zygote.....

I can't imagine how Dr. Carson would be operating on a zygote, since the phase of the zygote is about 4 days....hardly enough time to figure out that something is wrong with it, schedule an operation and then operate. I think you are delusional.

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

It can be found here in the Constitution:

'[T]he unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.[] Accordingly, an abortion is not "the termination of life entitled to Fourteenth Amendment protection." Id., at 159. From this holding, there was no dissent, see id., at 173; indeed, no member of the Court has ever questioned this fundamental proposition. Thus, as a matter of federal constitutional law, a developing organism that is not yet a "person" does not have what is sometimes described as a "right to life." [n.2] This has been and, by the Court's holding today, remains a fundamental premise of our constitutional law governing reproductive autonomy.'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey 505 U.S. 833 1992

 

[NYcarbineer]

Shouldn't we end the Catholic Church's tax exemptions because of all those child molesting priests?

I mean, at least there we have a multitude of real crimes.

 

[daws101]

Planned Parenthood doesn't do anything different than what is done when people donate their own organs. Republicans edited a video to push their sick agenda where they give a zygote more importance than a full grown woman.


Republican politicians have grabbed on to "anti-abortion" as their main issue because it is the only means that they can get votes from people that are well-intended but are not informed enough to know any better. They pander to their emotional state and have them so convinced that abortion is so evil that even if a woman is at risk for their life, they should not opt for an abortion.


Over-the-top outrage is the emotion of the day for Republicans as they respond to the latest misleading, heavily edited video attacking Planned Parenthood. The video shows Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood's senior director of medical services, talking about voluntary fetal tissue donation and the reimbursements for the costs of doing that. It's being depicted as some lurid plot to sell bodies, but really it's ... organ donation. You know, like you can register to donate your own organs when you renew your driver's license?
Republicans outraged by organ and tissue donation ... if Planned Parenthood is involved

What is sick is when protecting the most innocent of society is call sick. What type of mind thinks such things? Sick minds.

There is nothing wrong with protecting the most innocent, but giving a zygote more importance than a woman, now that is sick. Why is the woman less important than a fertilized egg?

You must really be irate knowing that Dr. Ben Carson operated on a zygote while it was still inside its mother's womb. What a waste of talent, huh?

Really? This is a picture of a zygote.....

I can't imagine how Dr. Carson would be operating on a zygote, since the phase of the zygote is about 4 days....hardly enough time to figure out that something is wrong with it, schedule an operation and then operate. I think you are delusional.

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

We do it all the time.
Age is not a factor.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

FREEWILL SAID:

“Dred Scott”

This fails as a false comparison fallacy, the consequence of your ignorance of the law, the Constitution, and the doctrine of judicial review.

 

[Freewill]

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

Dred Scott WAS the law until it was changed.

You want personhood for fetuses, amend the Constitution.

No scandal in auto parts stores.

No scandal in wrecking yards where CARS are parted out.

But, OK, there is no legal requirement that anyone respect the sanctity of the human body.

Sadly.

You don't realize apparently that every organ transplant that is performed necessitates the use of human organs from another human body,

right?

Or don't you realize that?

Yeah....but we aren't murdering people to get those organs are we....that is the difference.....

Emotional meltdown rhetoric. Get a grip.

It is sad...there are lefty nut jobs who won't eat an animal if it has a face...but will kill a baby even when it actually has a human face.........

So you'd be a cannibal if it was legal? Or are you one anyway?

Whoa, the creepy stuff you learn on USMB.

What part would I have to change?

 

[daws101]

There is no scandal at Planned Parenthood unless you count the invented one from the rightwing propaganda machine.

No scandal in auto parts stores.

No scandal in wrecking yards where CARS are parted out.

But, OK, there is no legal requirement that anyone respect the sanctity of the human body.

Sadly.

You don't realize apparently that every organ transplant that is performed necessitates the use of human organs from another human body,

right?

Or don't you realize that?

Yeah....but we aren't murdering people to get those organs are we....that is the difference.....

Emotional meltdown rhetoric. Get a grip.

I'm not emotional....it would be nice if you lefties acted like humans........

Bullshit your statement is soaked in emotions.

 

[Freewill]

FREEWILL SAID:

“Dred Scott”

This fails as a false comparison fallacy, the consequence of your ignorance of the law, the Constitution, and the doctrine of judicial review.

The point is that the SCOTUS doesn't always get it right. They don't make law nor should they make law as they did in Rov vs Wade and Gay Marriage.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Really? This is a picture of a zygote.....

I can't imagine how Dr. Carson would be operating on a zygote, since the phase of the zygote is about 4 days....hardly enough time to figure out that something is wrong with it, schedule an operation and then operate. I think you are delusional.

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

The Jews in the death camps weren't human either .....to the ones killing them.....

This also fails as a false comparison fallacy.

See Post #145

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There is no scandal at Planned Parenthood unless you count the invented one from the rightwing propaganda machine.

No scandal in auto parts stores.

No scandal in wrecking yards where CARS are parted out.

But, OK, there is no legal requirement that anyone respect the sanctity of the human body.

Sadly.

You don't realize apparently that every organ transplant that is performed necessitates the use of human organs from another human body,

right?

Or don't you realize that?

Yeah....but we aren't murdering people to get those organs are we....that is the difference.....

Emotional meltdown rhetoric. Get a grip.

It is sad...there are lefty nut jobs who won't eat an animal if it has a face...but will kill a baby even when it actually has a human face.........

What's sad is the ignorance of, or contempt for, the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law by so many on the right.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

Dred Scott WAS the law until it was changed.

You want personhood for fetuses, amend the Constitution.

What part would I have to change?

The part that doesn't exist.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There is nothing wrong with protecting the most innocent, but giving a zygote more importance than a woman, now that is sick. Why is the woman less important than a fertilized egg?

You must really be irate knowing that Dr. Ben Carson operated on a zygote while it was still inside its mother's womb. What a waste of talent, huh?

Really? This is a picture of a zygote.....

I can't imagine how Dr. Carson would be operating on a zygote, since the phase of the zygote is about 4 days....hardly enough time to figure out that something is wrong with it, schedule an operation and then operate. I think you are delusional.

The term zygote was used to mimic the poster's description. Dr. Carson operated on a fetus/a baby.
After 12 weeks, the fetus assumes an increasingly human form. Would you step up and stop a beating heart?

Not if one believes an embryo/fetus is a 'person.'

That's the genius of our Constitutional Republic, where each American can decide for himself when life begins, in accordance with his own good faith and good conscience, free from unwarranted interference from the state, free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other.

Well....does that mean I can determine that your life hasn't really begun yet.....do you want me to make decisions about you based on that freedom, moron........you might not like the outcome if you hold onto that belief system....


And they weren't cutting up zygotes...they were cutting up small human beings with arms, legs, a head, and internal organs....nice try at lying guys..........

Again, see Post #145.

 

[Freewill]

"free from being compelled by force of law to believe one way or the other."
Believe what you choose, but try acting on your beliefs when the State has specific laws in place.

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

Dred Scott WAS the law until it was changed.

You want personhood for fetuses, amend the Constitution.

What part would I have to change?

The part that doesn't exist.

First you say this: You want personhood for fetuses, amend the Constitution.

Then you say this: The part that doesn't exist.

Let us start with the DOI: "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence. The phrase gives three examples of the "inalienable rights" which the Declaration says has been given to all human beings by their Creator, and for which governments are created to protect.

Is the unborn child a life? Certainly it can not be argued otherwise, logically. Can we get society to accept that fact? Nope I don't think it will happen.

But just for conversation sake, what do you think gives personhood to a 1 minute old baby verses a 1 minute from being born baby? (or any other time you choose)

In the end I guess what you are saying is there has to be a COTUS amendment to give personhood to the 1 minute from birth baby.

 

[daws101]

And as a fact of Constitutional law an embryo/fetus is not a 'baby,' where abortion is not 'murder,' and where abortion is perfectly legal.

Where in the COTUS does it mention the unborn?

Certainly you are not saying that just because 9 old men decided that the unborn were not human makes it constitutional? Really? Is that what you are saying?

Ask Dred Scott about the constitutionality of SCOTUS rulings.

Dred Scott WAS the law until it was changed.

You want personhood for fetuses, amend the Constitution.

What part would I have to change?

The part that doesn't exist.

First you say this: You want personhood for fetuses, amend the Constitution.

Then you say this: The part that doesn't exist.

Let us start with the DOI: "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence. The phrase gives three examples of the "inalienable rights" which the Declaration says has been given to all human beings by their Creator, and for which governments are created to protect.

Is the unborn child a life? Certainly it can not be argued otherwise, logically. Can we get society to accept that fact? Nope I don't think it will happen.

But just for conversation sake, what do you think gives personhood to a 1 minute old baby verses a 1 minute from being born baby? (or any other time you choose)

In the end I guess what you are saying is there has to be a COTUS amendment to give personhood to the 1 minute from birth baby.

false comparison.
they had abortion when the constitution was written.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Planned Parenthood doesn't do anything different than what is done when people donate their own organs. Republicans edited a video to push their sick agenda where they give a zygote more importance than a full grown woman.


Republican politicians have grabbed on to "anti-abortion" as their main issue because it is the only means that they can get votes from people that are well-intended but are not informed enough to know any better. They pander to their emotional state and have them so convinced that abortion is so evil that even if a woman is at risk for their life, they should not opt for an abortion.


Over-the-top outrage is the emotion of the day for Republicans as they respond to the latest misleading, heavily edited video attacking Planned Parenthood. The video shows Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood's senior director of medical services, talking about voluntary fetal tissue donation and the reimbursements for the costs of doing that. It's being depicted as some lurid plot to sell bodies, but really it's ... organ donation. You know, like you can register to donate your own organs when you renew your driver's license?
Republicans outraged by organ and tissue donation ... if Planned Parenthood is involved

Planned parenthood is a non-profit.

Planned parenthood did knowingly sell these body parts...



Then Planned Parenthood should lose their non-profit status.

*****SMILE*****

Good tune, false comparison

I don't think so.

If they're turning around selling off organs they are a 'for' profit organization.

*****SMILE*****

 

[hazlnut]

Listen to good common sense from a man I think should be a key note speaker at the RNC.

Planned Parenthood Scandal Proves that Liberals Like Elizabeth Warren Are Bullies - YouTube

What scandal?

The faux scandal ginned up by choice and freedom haters?

 

[Lilah]

"Planned Parenthood Scandal Proves that Liberals Like Elizabeth Warren Are Bullies"

No, it proves most on the right are liars – Planned Parenthood violated no laws, the only 'scandal' is that of the lies contrived and propagated by the right.

If you in all good conscious can view the videos and feel that PP did absolutely noting wrong, then you are a very stoic human being; one who can look the other way whenever morality is lurking around the corner.