Plutocracy or Democracy? YOU will decide in Nov. 2016!

[Steinlight]

I want Scott Walker or Rand Paul to win in 2016, just for the shitlib tears alone. There was an epic meltdown on social media by leftists faggots in Britain when the Conservatives won an outright majority this week in the UK elections. I think the American Left will be even more unhinged in their reactions than their leftist cousins across the pond if this forum is any indication.

You teabaggers have reduced elections to the real life equivalent of posting Goatze on a message board. Just pissing people off is a sorry excuse to be involved in politics.

Teabagger? Leave it to lefties to project their own sexual degeneracies into politics and think it is funny and "edgy".

You are a sorry excuse for a human being and a waste of space.

 

[Steinlight]

After much consideration I have come the conclusion that the Koch's have done a great deal to fuel the debate about income inequality in this country by making themselves a clear example of it's corrosive effects on our voice as citizens. They should carry on and double down because it is hastening the day of reckoning, there must be one eventually because this is unsustainable.

Based upon what? Harry Reid's chronic pissing his pants over the Koch Brother's existence?

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

The Koch brothers are to blame for income inequality in this country? Last I checked, Income inequality has continued unabated under the Obama administration. Is he controlled by the Kochtopus as well?

Reading comprehension fail.

So is Obama responsible for the growing income inequality under his watch, or is that the fault of the Koch Brothers?

Last I checked, Obama voted for the Wall Street bailouts. You should rethink your political worldview. Stop supporting a guy who robbed the taxpayer to bailout out greedy shylock banksters who made bad bets. Obama feeds the very income inequality you claim to oppose through corporate socialist policies.

 

[Steinlight]

I want Scott Walker or Rand Paul to win in 2016, just for the shitlib tears alone. There was an epic meltdown on social media by leftists faggots in Britain when the Conservatives won an outright majority this week in the UK elections. I think the American Left will be even more unhinged in their reactions than their leftist cousins across the pond if this forum is any indication.

You teabaggers have reduced elections to the real life equivalent of posting Goatze on a message board. Just pissing people off is a sorry excuse to be involved in politics.

I thought that Abbot pussy was going to break down and cry. You know one big reason he lost? He said he wanted to prosecute people for "Islamophobia." That's most of the non Muslims in the country he wanted to prosecute. What a fucking moron!

You mean David Millband? Not surprised, his father was an avowed marxist who hated Western Civilization.

Yea imagine this socially awkward weakling running Great Britain into the ground economically. It would have been a shame for a once great Empire to be run by this beta male liberal.

 

[occupied]

After much consideration I have come the conclusion that the Koch's have done a great deal to fuel the debate about income inequality in this country by making themselves a clear example of it's corrosive effects on our voice as citizens. They should carry on and double down because it is hastening the day of reckoning, there must be one eventually because this is unsustainable.

Based upon what? Harry Reid's chronic pissing his pants over the Koch Brother's existence?

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

The Koch brothers are to blame for income inequality in this country? Last I checked, Income inequality has continued unabated under the Obama administration. Is he controlled by the Kochtopus as well?

Reading comprehension fail.

So is Obama responsible for the growing income inequality under his watch, or is that the fault of the Koch Brothers?

Last I checked, Obama voted for the Wall Street bailouts. You should rethink your political worldview. Stop supporting a guy who robbed the taxpayer to bailout out greedy shylock banksters who made bad bets. Obama feeds the very income inequality you claim to oppose through corporate socialist policies.

Yeah we do not always get what we want, I didn't get a true progressive and you didn't get some really rich guy who is "business friendly", conservative speak for a total shameless whore to the plutocrats. Face it, you do not care if the wealthy have a vastly disproportionate voice in America except if you want to show democrats as hypocrites, which many are, but they are working on it, not embracing plutocracy as All-American.

 

[Steinlight]

Based upon what? Harry Reid's chronic pissing his pants over the Koch Brother's existence?

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

The Koch brothers are to blame for income inequality in this country? Last I checked, Income inequality has continued unabated under the Obama administration. Is he controlled by the Kochtopus as well?

Reading comprehension fail.

So is Obama responsible for the growing income inequality under his watch, or is that the fault of the Koch Brothers?

Last I checked, Obama voted for the Wall Street bailouts. You should rethink your political worldview. Stop supporting a guy who robbed the taxpayer to bailout out greedy shylock banksters who made bad bets. Obama feeds the very income inequality you claim to oppose through corporate socialist policies.

Yeah we do not always get what we want, I didn't get a true progressive and you didn't get some really rich guy who is "business friendly", conservative speak for a total shameless whore to the plutocrats. Face it, you do not care if the wealthy have a vastly disproportionate voice in America except if you want to show democrats as hypocrites, which many are, but they are working on it, not embracing plutocracy as All-American.

Don't blame me, I supported Ron Paul, not Obama who was backed by Goldman Sachs.

You could have stopped all this from happening.

 

[The Rabbi]

That is completely wrong.
The Nazis were the German version of Progressives, who have little in common with liberals from an earlier era.
Which group wants to force people to buy a private product?
Which group wants to ban selling sodas in certain sizes?
Which group has passed a law making it illegal to smoke in your own home?
Which group has forced people to switch doctors?
Which group wants to tell businesses what they must pay to workers?
Which party wants to dictate corporate policy to big companies?
Yes, if you answered modern liberals/progressves/Democrats you were right on all counts.

Is that why Hitler arrested and executed socialist and communist? I guess you never heard of Dachau concentration camp?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
March 20, 1933 - Dachau Opens -Heinrich Himmler, SS leader and chief of the Munich police, announces the opening of the Dachau concentration camp. The camp is located about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany. Dachau is one of the first concentration camps the Nazis establish. The first prisoners arrive two days later. They are mainly Communists and Socialists and other political opponents of the Nazi party. Dachau is the only camp to remain in operation from 1933 until 1945.
Timeline of Dachau Jewish Virtual Library

Is that why Hitler arrested and executed socialist and communist?

Lefties have slaughtered their left-wing competition since the beginning.

Whoa,,that's really a stretch!
So that's why the Nazi's banned trade unions and got support from the business-industrial sector? And that is why Hitler/Nazis demonized Jews as Marxist and a threat to Germany. And that is why he sent the Jews , to join with socialist in the concentration camps.
Yep, that explains everything.

You are so wrong it is funny.
Hitler banned INDEPENDENT trade unions. There was a healthy system of Nazi controlled unions in Germany.
Nazis were "National Socialists" as opposed to Communists who were "International Socialists." There was no difference other than nationalism.
The Jews were unfortunate victims of Hitler's beliefs etc.

Is that why Hitler arrested and executed socialist and communist?

Lefties have slaughtered their left-wing competition since the beginning.

Whoa,,that's really a stretch!
So that's why the Nazi's banned trade unions and got support from the business-industrial sector? And that is why Hitler/Nazis demonized Jews as Marxist and a threat to Germany. And that is why he sent the Jews , to join with socialist in the concentration camps.
Yep, that explains everything.

You are so wrong it is funny.
Hitler banned INDEPENDENT trade unions. There was a healthy system of Nazi controlled unions in Germany.
Nazis were "National Socialists" as opposed to Communists who were "International Socialists." There was no difference other than nationalism.
The Jews were unfortunate victims of Hitler's beliefs etc.

"Nazis were "National Socialists" as opposed to Communists who were "International Socialists." -Rabbi

Oh, so using that logic, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is really a democracy?
Darn, I always though socialist were pro-worker, pro-union and only wanted to make business and industry property of the state.
Yes, the Jews were unfortunate victims if Hitler's beliefs, so why did he demonize them as "Marxist" and threat to Germany? As a socialist, wouldn't Hitler been true to his socialism and called the Jews capitalists and a threat to Germany?

Are you disputing that "NAZI" Is an acronym for National Socialist?
Are you disputing that the Soviet Union was the "Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics"?

Are you disputing that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy?

Your defeat here is acknowledged. Maybe some kind of remedial courses would help you not appear such an ignoramus.

 

[The Rabbi]

Did Hitler and the Nazis stand for diversity, internationalization, multiculturalism, pacifism, racial equality, equal rights for homosexuals, abortion and just plain equality for all, which are all part of the leftist foundation? No, but Hitler and the Nazis did stand for the opposite. Ahh, those crazy Aryans.

None those things have anything to do with socialism. FDR didn't stand for any of them either.

Really?

Really. FDR was a racist.

And FDR was was anti-internationalism, anti-multiculturalism, anti-pacifism and equal equality?
Oh and he was a racist too?
That darn FDR, then why in world did he create Fair Employment Practice Committee? Why did he stop the Navy and Army from not allowing Blacks to serve and fight in WWII?
That damn racist!!!

You really are stupid, arent you?
FDR sent the Jews on the St Louis back to Germany, he plotted with Britain to supply them against Congress' wishes, he did not integrate the military (that was Truman). He instituted anti Constitutional measures in the NRA and other programs, his policies hurt blacks and other poor people.
And "equal equality"? Are you drunk? That would explain many of your posts.

 

[The Rabbi]

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

whats real scary is that their libertarian goal is to eviscerate environmental restrictions on polluters (themselves and other extraction industry types)

No what's really scary is that ignorant fuckers like you actually believe that shit.

 

[The Rabbi]

Based upon what? Harry Reid's chronic pissing his pants over the Koch Brother's existence?

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

The Koch brothers are to blame for income inequality in this country? Last I checked, Income inequality has continued unabated under the Obama administration. Is he controlled by the Kochtopus as well?

Reading comprehension fail.

So is Obama responsible for the growing income inequality under his watch, or is that the fault of the Koch Brothers?

Last I checked, Obama voted for the Wall Street bailouts. You should rethink your political worldview. Stop supporting a guy who robbed the taxpayer to bailout out greedy shylock banksters who made bad bets. Obama feeds the very income inequality you claim to oppose through corporate socialist policies.

Yeah we do not always get what we want, I didn't get a true progressive and you didn't get some really rich guy who is "business friendly", conservative speak for a total shameless whore to the plutocrats. Face it, you do not care if the wealthy have a vastly disproportionate voice in America except if you want to show democrats as hypocrites, which many are, but they are working on it, not embracing plutocracy as All-American.

You got everything you wanted and you still piss and moan.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

After much consideration I have come the conclusion that the Koch's have done a great deal to fuel the debate about income inequality in this country by making themselves a clear example of it's corrosive effects on our voice as citizens. They should carry on and double down because it is hastening the day of reckoning, there must be one eventually because this is unsustainable.

Based upon what? Harry Reid's chronic pissing his pants over the Koch Brother's existence?

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

You helped elect a guy that spent 1700 billion of OTHER PEOPLE's Money IN DEFICIT in just his FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE to undermine the economy you depend upon to EAT. THE SAME GUY SPENT 9000 billion in six years.

And you're worried about someone spending a billion of their own cash to support the people who share their ideas?

Seriously?

Damned right I'm worried, this kind of election spending by individuals pushing their narrow personal interests is unprecedented in scope and effectiveness, democracy in America has never faced a challenge quite like this and I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives. These men are trying to buy power, I can assure you it is not for the purpose of making anything about your life better.

"I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives."

Because most conservatives support the narrow personal interests of the likes of the Koch brothers, who share the same reactionary agenda hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty.

Oh! I love these assertions. But only because I'm a world class underachiever And there so easy to refute.

Now ... Understand there will Most likely be no response to my challenge here... Which will be a concession by default, which means I win.

Less likely but still possible, there will be a deflective non-responding response which is a
Concession... And I win. But those are the only two possibilities.

So I've already won by just issuing the refuting challenge.

Contributor please cite the specific "narrow personal reactionary interests" of the Koch Brothers which are specifically hostile to legitimate expressions of diversity, dissent and individual liberty.

 

[The Rabbi]

Based upon what? Harry Reid's chronic pissing his pants over the Koch Brother's existence?

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

You helped elect a guy that spent 1700 billion of OTHER PEOPLE's Money IN DEFICIT in just his FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE to undermine the economy you depend upon to EAT. THE SAME GUY SPENT 9000 billion in six years.

And you're worried about someone spending a billion of their own cash to support the people who share their ideas?

Seriously?

Damned right I'm worried, this kind of election spending by individuals pushing their narrow personal interests is unprecedented in scope and effectiveness, democracy in America has never faced a challenge quite like this and I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives. These men are trying to buy power, I can assure you it is not for the purpose of making anything about your life better.

"I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives."

Because most conservatives support the narrow personal interests of the likes of the Koch brothers, who share the same reactionary agenda hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty.

Oh! I love these assertions. But only because I'm a world class underachiever And there so easy to refute.

Now ... Understand there will Most likely be no response to my challenge here... Which will be a concession by default, which means I win.

Less likely but still possible, there will be a deflective non-responding response which is a
Concession... And I win. But those are the only two possibilities.

So I've already won by just issuing the refuting challenge.

Contributor please cite the specific "narrow personal reactionary interests of the Koch Brothers which are specifically hostile to legitimate expressions of diversity, dissent and individual liberty.

You might as well ask him to sing the Tibetan national anthem.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Based upon what? Harry Reid's chronic pissing his pants over the Koch Brother's existence?

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

The Koch brothers are to blame for income inequality in this country? Last I checked, Income inequality has continued unabated under the Obama administration. Is he controlled by the Kochtopus as well?

Reading comprehension fail.

So is Obama responsible for the growing income inequality under his watch, or is that the fault of the Koch Brothers?

Last I checked, Obama voted for the Wall Street bailouts. You should rethink your political worldview. Stop supporting a guy who robbed the taxpayer to bailout out greedy shylock banksters who made bad bets. Obama feeds the very income inequality you claim to oppose through corporate socialist policies.

Yeah we do not always get what we want, I didn't get a true progressive and you didn't get some really rich guy who is "business friendly", conservative speak for a total shameless whore to the plutocrats. Face it, you do not care if the wealthy have a vastly disproportionate voice in America except if you want to show democrats as hypocrites, which many are, but they are working on it, not embracing plutocracy as All-American.

Uh... Progressivism is the purest embodiment of the plutocracy.

You should probably look the word up. Because you're defintely using it wrong.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

These fuckers are spending a billion dollars to influence our elections, that shit cannot be glossed over or ignored except by you apparently. These men have made themselves public figures and their actions warrant discussion. You deserve to live in a serfdom, the rest of us want our political voices back, if we ever had them in the first place.

You helped elect a guy that spent 1700 billion of OTHER PEOPLE's Money IN DEFICIT in just his FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE to undermine the economy you depend upon to EAT. THE SAME GUY SPENT 9000 billion in six years.

And you're worried about someone spending a billion of their own cash to support the people who share their ideas?

Seriously?

Damned right I'm worried, this kind of election spending by individuals pushing their narrow personal interests is unprecedented in scope and effectiveness, democracy in America has never faced a challenge quite like this and I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives. These men are trying to buy power, I can assure you it is not for the purpose of making anything about your life better.

"I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives."

Because most conservatives support the narrow personal interests of the likes of the Koch brothers, who share the same reactionary agenda hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty.

Oh! I love these assertions. But only because I'm a world class underachiever And there so easy to refute.

Now ... Understand there will Most likely be no response to my challenge here... Which will be a concession by default, which means I win.

Less likely but still possible, there will be a deflective non-responding response which is a
Concession... And I win. But those are the only two possibilities.

So I've already won by just issuing the refuting challenge.

Contributor please cite the specific "narrow personal reactionary interests of the Koch Brothers which are specifically hostile to legitimate expressions of diversity, dissent and individual liberty.

You might as well ask him to sing the Tibetan national anthem.

Ya NAILED IT!

 

[Wry Catcher]

The idiot fringe sure began to dominate this thread, and yet not one of them is able to understand the distinction between a democratic republic and a plutocratic oligarchy.

[Of course even the idiot-fringe has a fringe, and the most vocal of that set [Rabbi(t), bri-pat and keys] are not only extremists, but violently hatefully so.

We do not yet enjoy a Congress or Supreme Court undivided, able to govern in the best interests of ALL of the people, but as long as our home remains divided, such an outcome may be decades away, or our form of government (of the people, by the people and for the people) will be unable to stand.

Sadly, faux patriots, those who spew hate for other citizens, seem to seek such an outcome. Notice they have no ideas, never suggest solutions and seem content to label anyone with ideas and opinions focused on problem solving with single sentence personal attacks: using hyperbole, pejoratives (commie, statest, libtard, dimocrat or rino) and other thoughtless idiot-grams, which is the sum and substance that defines their genre, The Idiot Fringe.

Money interests play a major part in election years, most TV and Radio Ads are untruthful and meant to sway emotion, primarily hate and fear (H&F).

We need campaign finance reform! No dark money should be lawful and every dime committed to a campaign - be it for POTUS or a Member of Congress, a state legislature, state governor, mayor, city council member or any initiative, referendum, recall or impeachment must name the contributor no matter how large or small the donation.

Anything else, promises to hire the wife or child of a candidate/incumbent, transportation expenses, paid speaking engagements, loans of money, yachts, planes or prostitutes, which are unclaimed and thus hidden, must be outlawed as felonious and severely punished.

The Supreme Court of the United States must be bound to a Code of Ethics.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Nice liberal paranoia thread.

How many jobs have YOU created?

Your willful ignorance is noted.

Considering we have had the same people in power for the last 40 years it would appear to me that this is more of a plutcracy than a democracy. We are being governed by the same group of people.

I disagree, the meme that the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same is no longer true, if it ever was. What is true is money = power, and five members of the US Supreme Court made Money = Free Speech, changing forever the concept that we are a nation of the people, by the people or for the people.

We, the 99% of Americans, are facing a new enemy, a domestic one intent on getting and keeping power for generations. The machinations of the Koch Brothers are threatening a system of government by the people which worked - not always well - for over two centuries.

My hope with this thread is to get people thinking, and considering other outcomes than the one they hear from demagogues and charlatans, and the willfully ignorant who parrot the propaganda of those who seek power.

You're hope with this thread is to "get people thinking" yet you think rich dems are different than rich gopers.

You are one ignorant motherfucker

Gee, never been called that since i retired, you an take the punk out of the cage, but not the reason the punk was put in the cage.

That said, there is a great difference between Gates, Sores and Buffet - they earned their wealth, the brother's Koch inherited theirs, and their daddy's political extremism too.

There is no difference jackass. Money is money & corruption is corruption regardless of party affiliation.

You ARE a stupid MOTHERFUCKER as well as the weakest link....goodbye

O RLLY? there is no diff between earned & inherited money? I also see you're also on your weekly meltdown as well. Wry Catcher owns you. Good times.

There is no difference between coruption from the left or right. There is no difference in the influence money will buy no matter how the money was obtained.

Wry Catcher owns me? Lol
Get a grip twit

 

[Wry Catcher]

Your willful ignorance is noted.
I disagree, the meme that the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same is no longer true, if it ever was. What is true is money = power, and five members of the US Supreme Court made Money = Free Speech, changing forever the concept that we are a nation of the people, by the people or for the people.

We, the 99% of Americans, are facing a new enemy, a domestic one intent on getting and keeping power for generations. The machinations of the Koch Brothers are threatening a system of government by the people which worked - not always well - for over two centuries.

My hope with this thread is to get people thinking, and considering other outcomes than the one they hear from demagogues and charlatans, and the willfully ignorant who parrot the propaganda of those who seek power.

You're hope with this thread is to "get people thinking" yet you think rich dems are different than rich gopers.

You are one ignorant motherfucker

Gee, never been called that since i retired, you an take the punk out of the cage, but not the reason the punk was put in the cage.

That said, there is a great difference between Gates, Sores and Buffet - they earned their wealth, the brother's Koch inherited theirs, and their daddy's political extremism too.

There is no difference jackass. Money is money & corruption is corruption regardless of party affiliation.

You ARE a stupid MOTHERFUCKER as well as the weakest link....goodbye

O RLLY? there is no diff between earned & inherited money? I also see you're also on your weekly meltdown as well. Wry Catcher owns you. Good times.

There is no difference between coruption from the left or right. There is no difference in the influence money will buy no matter how the money was obtained.

Wry Catcher owns me? Lol
Get a grip twit

In the mind of this simpleton ^^^ there is no difference. The difference can be as stark as the air we breath, the water we drink and the climate we change.

 

[Dot Com]

You got everything you wanted and you still piss and moan.

ironic post is ironic.

Please list Repub accomplishments since the last election.

tax reform?

immigration reform?

etc...

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You're hope with this thread is to "get people thinking" yet you think rich dems are different than rich gopers.

You are one ignorant motherfucker

Gee, never been called that since i retired, you an take the punk out of the cage, but not the reason the punk was put in the cage.

That said, there is a great difference between Gates, Sores and Buffet - they earned their wealth, the brother's Koch inherited theirs, and their daddy's political extremism too.

There is no difference jackass. Money is money & corruption is corruption regardless of party affiliation.

You ARE a stupid MOTHERFUCKER as well as the weakest link....goodbye

O RLLY? there is no diff between earned & inherited money? I also see you're also on your weekly meltdown as well. Wry Catcher owns you. Good times.

There is no difference between coruption from the left or right. There is no difference in the influence money will buy no matter how the money was obtained.

Wry Catcher owns me? Lol
Get a grip twit

In the mind of this simpleton ^^^ there is no difference. The difference can be as stark as the air we breath, the water we drink and the climate we change.

You're an idiot. There is 0 difference. Corruption is corruption. Bribes & extortion are bribes & extortion.

You really are a dumbfuck. And you just got owned AGAIN by an exconvict stiupidass

 

[kiwiman127]

Is that why Hitler arrested and executed socialist and communist? I guess you never heard of Dachau concentration camp?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
March 20, 1933 - Dachau Opens -Heinrich Himmler, SS leader and chief of the Munich police, announces the opening of the Dachau concentration camp. The camp is located about 10 miles northwest of Munich in southern Germany. Dachau is one of the first concentration camps the Nazis establish. The first prisoners arrive two days later. They are mainly Communists and Socialists and other political opponents of the Nazi party. Dachau is the only camp to remain in operation from 1933 until 1945.
Timeline of Dachau Jewish Virtual Library

Is that why Hitler arrested and executed socialist and communist?

Lefties have slaughtered their left-wing competition since the beginning.

Whoa,,that's really a stretch!
So that's why the Nazi's banned trade unions and got support from the business-industrial sector? And that is why Hitler/Nazis demonized Jews as Marxist and a threat to Germany. And that is why he sent the Jews , to join with socialist in the concentration camps.
Yep, that explains everything.

You are so wrong it is funny.
Hitler banned INDEPENDENT trade unions. There was a healthy system of Nazi controlled unions in Germany.
Nazis were "National Socialists" as opposed to Communists who were "International Socialists." There was no difference other than nationalism.
The Jews were unfortunate victims of Hitler's beliefs etc.

Whoa,,that's really a stretch!
So that's why the Nazi's banned trade unions and got support from the business-industrial sector? And that is why Hitler/Nazis demonized Jews as Marxist and a threat to Germany. And that is why he sent the Jews , to join with socialist in the concentration camps.
Yep, that explains everything.

You are so wrong it is funny.
Hitler banned INDEPENDENT trade unions. There was a healthy system of Nazi controlled unions in Germany.
Nazis were "National Socialists" as opposed to Communists who were "International Socialists." There was no difference other than nationalism.
The Jews were unfortunate victims of Hitler's beliefs etc.

"Nazis were "National Socialists" as opposed to Communists who were "International Socialists." -Rabbi

Oh, so using that logic, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is really a democracy?
Darn, I always though socialist were pro-worker, pro-union and only wanted to make business and industry property of the state.
Yes, the Jews were unfortunate victims if Hitler's beliefs, so why did he demonize them as "Marxist" and threat to Germany? As a socialist, wouldn't Hitler been true to his socialism and called the Jews capitalists and a threat to Germany?

Are you disputing that "NAZI" Is an acronym for National Socialist?
Are you disputing that the Soviet Union was the "Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics"?

Are you disputing that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy?

Your defeat here is acknowledged. Maybe some kind of remedial courses would help you not appear such an ignoramus.

My defeat?
You used a couple of examples of where the name of the country was applicable and I used one where the name of the country wasn't applicable. My example showed that names of adopted by countries aren't always applicable. That also applies to political parties and ideologies. Take the term "conservative", which is derived from the word conserve. In the past, conservatives did live up to their name by actually conserving things, In today's world, conserving doesn't apply to many conservatives and the topic that this applies to is the environment.
Now, back to the National Socialist German Workers' Party. At the time when the party was formed, they incorporated two popular movements into their name. Nationalism and socialism were two popular movements in Europe, to gather popular support in Germany, these two key words were incorporated into the party name, along with the word "workers". Including the word "workers' even before they banned all trade unions, occupied the trade unions offices by force and arrested trade union leaders. As noted earlier, then the Nazis arrested socialist and sent them to concentration camps and also executed socialist leaders, They also demonized the Jews by labeling them as Marxist Jews and charged that they were a threat to Germany.
Obviously, the Nazi's weren't socialist as their actions throughout their reign never demonstrated basic socialist beliefs at all. It was simply using the word "socialist" to gather support just as they did using the words 'national" and "workers."
My conclusion game after reading/studying historical facts and no, I didn't use partisan blogs; etc.
Do I think the Nazi's were right wing? Not really, they not only clashed with left wing organizations, they also had issues with right wing organizations.
As you will note, I did use links for reference previously that lead to my conclusion. You should try that sometime instead of throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

 

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You helped elect a guy that spent 1700 billion of OTHER PEOPLE's Money IN DEFICIT in just his FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE to undermine the economy you depend upon to EAT. THE SAME GUY SPENT 9000 billion in six years.

And you're worried about someone spending a billion of their own cash to support the people who share their ideas?

Seriously?

Damned right I'm worried, this kind of election spending by individuals pushing their narrow personal interests is unprecedented in scope and effectiveness, democracy in America has never faced a challenge quite like this and I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives. These men are trying to buy power, I can assure you it is not for the purpose of making anything about your life better.

"I am frankly amazed at the I don't give a fuck attitude by conservatives."

Because most conservatives support the narrow personal interests of the likes of the Koch brothers, who share the same reactionary agenda hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty.

Oh! I love these assertions. But only because I'm a world class underachiever And there so easy to refute.

Now ... Understand there will Most likely be no response to my challenge here... Which will be a concession by default, which means I win.

Less likely but still possible, there will be a deflective non-responding response which is a
Concession... And I win. But those are the only two possibilities.

So I've already won by just issuing the refuting challenge.

Contributor please cite the specific "narrow personal reactionary interests of the Koch Brothers which are specifically hostile to legitimate expressions of diversity, dissent and individual liberty.

You might as well ask him to sing the Tibetan national anthem.

Ya NAILED IT!

It's interesting, that our right wing friends comments and assertions lack any fact-filled links to back up their posts. There's a lot of partisan conjecture though.