Police Body Camera Footage Proves George Floyd Was Not "Murdered"

Manslaughter at best. He might even walk. Get your loot suit ready.

Again, very unlikely....

That tape is pretty damning.

I mean, seriously, you know, we convict most people of crimes without them being taped doing it.

His own bosses said his conduct was out of line. The medical examiner ruled it a homicide.


Moron....his own bosses are under orders to hang him........the police chief is appointed by the mayor, and everyone else is on notice...you dipshit.
 
Actually "We" have the body cam that shows what really went down not just some media and BLM bullshit emotional manipulation. "We" also have the tox report and floyds criminal record of violence and drug abuse........"We" all aren't as stupid as the racist terrorist blm and prosecution hope people are....

His criminal record doesn't matter. If you want to bring that in, let's also bring in the other 18 times Chauvin violated people's civil rights.

The Tox Screen doesn't matter, because it takes HOURS to die of a drug overdose. he was dead in minutes after encounter Chauvin.

Your Boy is going down. Deal with it.


Moron....he was over 3X the fatal level of fentanyl, which causes repiratory failure...you idiot...

the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner, Andrew Baker:

"No life-threatening injuries identified --

"A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae

"B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures

"C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries

"D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries

"E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma"

In short: No bloodshot eyes and no trauma to any part of Floyd's neck.


And yet, day after day, prosecutors, witnesses and the media tell us that Chauvin "squeezed the life out of" Floyd. The medical evidence establishes that whatever else caused his death, it was NOT asphyxiation.

That's the entire case against Officer Chauvin! But the howling mob isn't giving up its holy religious observance because of one dork in a lab coat. The sun might not rise! The city of Minneapolis could be wiped out! Wait -- that might actually happen.


The medical examiner also found that Floyd had enough fentanyl in his system -- I don't want to say "to kill a horse," because that would be a cliche. But it would be enough to bump off an entire team of Budweiser Clydesdales. In technical medical jargon:

"A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying,
"deaths have been certified with levels of 3."

Three. But George Floyd went up to 11.

Naturally, Baker was quick to add, "I am not saying this killed him." Please don't throw me to the woke gods! Leave me to my test tubes! (And you thought lawyers were craven.)

Derek Chauvin, Human Sacrifice
 
Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.
The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

The autopsy said asphyxiation, and NOT drugs.
Asphyxiation caused by what? Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe as he was standing before they even tried to put him in the car. Are you claiming that was caused by the Police? Or is a more likely reason that the drugs he had ingested were filling his lungs with fluid making it hard for him to breath? An overdose of Fentanyl would have that effect.

I watched all the video and never heard Floyd complain about trouble breathing until they piled on top of him, on the ground.

Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid, and anything like that would have been obvious to the coronors.
No, all of the medical experts say it was murder through pressure on the neck.
Although weight on the rib cage was not going to help either.
Then you obviously DIDN'T watch all of the video because Floyd DID complain about having trouble breathing long before he was held down on the ground! Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid? You obviously don't know what an overdose of Fentanyl does!

How could drugs fill the lungs with fluid?
About the only way that could happen is with an allergic reaction, and fentanyl reduces allergic responses.
Here are the overdose symptoms:
{...
Overdose symptoms may include slow breathing and heart rate, severe drowsiness, muscle weakness, cold and clammy skin, pinpoint pupils, and fainting.
...}
Nothing about lungs filling with liquid, and that would take a very long time.
 
Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.
The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs

That is not correct......here, something you won't here about MPD policy...

Further, officers are not only permitted but required to use force not only to protect themselves and the public, but to protect the in-custody suspect, even from himself.

To the extent the officers believed Floyd was suffering from excited delirium–and we know they were, because they are heard discussing this concern on their body camera footage

the standard protocol is to completely restrain the suspect’s entire body to prevent the over-exertion believed to kill in cases of excited delirium.

Further, it is well recognized that overdose victims who regain consciousness often immediately respond with violence when they rouse, and thus steps to prevent this would be reasonable. This is all the more the case when the suspect is being restrained on the street in one of the busiest intersections of the city, with moving traffic mere feet away.


 
Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.
The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

The autopsy said asphyxiation, and NOT drugs.
Asphyxiation caused by what? Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe as he was standing before they even tried to put him in the car. Are you claiming that was caused by the Police? Or is a more likely reason that the drugs he had ingested were filling his lungs with fluid making it hard for him to breath? An overdose of Fentanyl would have that effect.

I watched all the video and never heard Floyd complain about trouble breathing until they piled on top of him, on the ground.

Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid, and anything like that would have been obvious to the coronors.
No, all of the medical experts say it was murder through pressure on the neck.
Although weight on the rib cage was not going to help either.
Then you obviously DIDN'T watch all of the video because Floyd DID complain about having trouble breathing long before he was held down on the ground! Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid? You obviously don't know what an overdose of Fentanyl does!

How could drugs fill the lungs with fluid?
About the only way that could happen is with an allergic reaction, and fentanyl reduces allergic responses.
Here are the overdose symptoms:
{...
Overdose symptoms may include slow breathing and heart rate, severe drowsiness, muscle weakness, cold and clammy skin, pinpoint pupils, and fainting.
...}
Nothing about lungs filling with liquid, and that would take a very long time.


He fell asleep in the car before the cops arrived and the friends, girlfriend and drug dealer, couldn't wake him up...that is why they were still there when the cops arrived...

He had a cocktail in his system.....and over 3X the lethal level of fentanyl......
 
#408: ‘irrelevant.’ Some may disagree. Constrictions at the neck after fentanyl exposure reinforce the brain hypoxia scenario also seen in the Russian hostage crisis. The gas used was most likely fentanyl due to its rapidity. Anyone who has ever experienced fentanyl knows how swift it acts on the brain.

Moscow Theater Hostage Crisis
’....most, if not all, of the deaths were caused by suffocation when hostages collapsed in chairs with heads falling back...’

A gas is absorbed quickly into the blood, though the lungs.
With Floyd they are saying he ingested the drugs, which would take so long to dissolve and filter through the intestines that there would be more than enough time to get him to a hospital.
 
LIE. Already shown the tactic used by Chauvin was taught in their own manuals and videos. Try to learn something before embarrassing yourself any more. So a large drugged up out of control man is not a deadly threat to a much smaller man? GTFO with your bullshit. Only cause of death. That would be funny if it weren’t such an asinine statements.
Chief said he didn't have an issue with the use of the neck restraint, but the length of time it was held. Ignoring that for five minutes the dude Floyd, was still talking, so the issue was the last four minutes. that's debatable due to where they were in the street and the need to hand him over to the paramedics.
 
A gas is absorbed quickly into the blood, though the lungs.
With Floyd they are saying he ingested the drugs, which would take so long to dissolve and filter through the intestines that there would be more than enough time to get him to a hospital.
what a bunch of nonsense. dude, save yourself, you're embarrassing to watch.
 
LIE. Already shown the tactic used by Chauvin was taught in their own manuals and videos. Try to learn something before embarrassing yourself any more. So a large drugged up out of control man is not a deadly threat to a much smaller man? GTFO with your bullshit. Only cause of death. That would be funny if it weren’t such an asinine statements.
Chief said he didn't have an issue with the use of the neck restraint, but the length of time it was held. Ignoring that for five minutes the dude Floyd, was still talking, so the issue was the last four minutes. that's debatable due to where they were in the street and the need to hand him over to the paramedics.


That, and the aggressive crowd, and the location, right on the edge of one of the busier streets in the city.......
 
The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!
Actually, the girl in the car told the cop they were waiting for her girlfriend to get off work.
 
No dipshit. Just because you’re too stupid to understand anything doesn’t mean the jury will do what you demand. No conviction on your bullshit murder charge. Funny you keep ignoring everything else from that day. Fuck off asshole. Idiots like you should keep their uneducated mouths shut.

The Jury will convict because the tape is so horrible.

We have the tape.

You have some guys mealy-mouthing about milligrams.

We win.

No, YOU are the child dumbfuck. Refusing to read ANY evidence and letting your hatred of whitey dictate everything. Hey dumbfuck, why did Floyd also LIE when asked directly if he had taken anything? He says NO twice. Plain as day. So you fucking uneducated racist how come there are ZERO injuries to the neck or chest aside from a checked rib from CPR? Better review the department training videos. Chauvin used the technique TAUGHT by that idiot chief’s department. Try to educate yourself.

Those training videos are for suspects who are resisting. Floyd was handcuffed, on the ground and pretty much stopped moving after five minutes... being dead and all. It doesn't matter what he took, that isn't what killed him. The knee to the neck did.

Chauvin is going down...


Moron....the cops knew he was on drugs.....so they held him down to keep him from struggling and making his condition worse...

Further, officers are not only permitted but required to use force not only to protect themselves and the public, but to protect the in-custody suspect, even from himself.

To the extent the officers believed Floyd was suffering from excited delirium–and we know they were, because they are heard discussing this concern on their body camera footage–

the standard protocol is to completely restrain the suspect’s entire body to prevent the over-exertion believed to kill in cases of excited delirium.

Further, it is well recognized that overdose victims who regain consciousness often immediately respond with violence when they rouse, and thus steps to prevent this would be reasonable.



This is all the more the case when the suspect is being restrained on the street in one of the busiest intersections of the city, with moving traffic mere feet away.

yeah the prosecution provided all of the material that what Chauvin did was text book.
 
#408: ‘irrelevant.’ Some may disagree. Constrictions at the neck after fentanyl exposure reinforce the brain hypoxia scenario also seen in the Russian hostage crisis. The gas used was most likely fentanyl due to its rapidity. Anyone who has ever experienced fentanyl knows how swift it acts on the brain.

Moscow Theater Hostage Crisis
’....most, if not all, of the deaths were caused by suffocation when hostages collapsed in chairs with heads falling back...’

A gas is absorbed quickly into the blood, though the lungs.
With Floyd they are saying he ingested the drugs, which would take so long to dissolve and filter through the intestines that there would be more than enough time to get him to a hospital.


Righby....the best coverage so far is from Andrew Branca at Legal Insurrection........he covers all of this .......
 
LIE. Already shown the tactic used by Chauvin was taught in their own manuals and videos. Try to learn something before embarrassing yourself any more. So a large drugged up out of control man is not a deadly threat to a much smaller man? GTFO with your bullshit. Only cause of death. That would be funny if it weren’t such an asinine statements.
Chief said he didn't have an issue with the use of the neck restraint, but the length of time it was held. Ignoring that for five minutes the dude Floyd, was still talking, so the issue was the last four minutes. that's debatable due to where they were in the street and the need to hand him over to the paramedics.


Paramedics they called and then called back to come in with lights and sirens...showing they knew he needed medical help.......
 
Passing fake $20's isn't a death penalty offense...and not recognizing that someone you're arresting for passing fake $20's is OD'ing on drugs isn't murder!

Everyone in that crowd could see Floyd was in distress... except for Chauvin.

He is a political officer of the mayor....you dumb shit....he was appointed by the mayor....you moron........he is going to say anything the mayor wants....to keep the democrat party brownshirts from burning the city down...again.

Do you understand that the cops knew he was on drugs and in trouble, and their training is to keep criminals subdued so they don't struggle and cause more damage from the over dose?

That's sounds suspiciously like, "We had to destroy the village to save it." you fucking retard...

But let's look at the man's record as a police officer, this supposed political hack.


A fifth-generation Minnesota resident, Arradondo joined the MPD in 1989 as a patrol officer in the Fourth Precinct and worked his way up through the police ranks until he was named the inspector for the First Precinct.[.... Arrandondo was promoted to head of the Internal Affairs Unit responsible for investigation of allegations of officer misconduct.[4]

Arradondo was a Deputy Chief and Assistant Chief before being nominated as Minneapolis's new Chief of Police by the Mayor of Minneapolis, after the resignation of former police chief Janeé Harteau in mid-2017, shortly after the shooting of Justine Damond by former Minneapolis police officer Mohammed Noor.[5]
[6]

Dates of Rank...
  • Patrol Officer - 1989
  • Sergeant - 1997
  • Lieutenant - 2007
  • Commander - 2012
  • Inspector - 2013
  • Deputy Chief - 2015
  • Assistant Chief - 2017
  • Chief of Police - 2017


So, 32 years as a cop, including being an inspector and head of the IA Unit... Seems to me that he should be an expert on what constitutes improper behavior by a police officer.

you moron...you idiot...you fucking child...
No, YOU are the child dumbfuck. Refusing to read ANY evidence and letting your hatred of whitey dictate everything. Hey dumbfuck, why did Floyd also LIE when asked directly if he had taken anything? He says NO twice. Plain as day. So you fucking uneducated racist how come there are ZERO injuries to the neck or chest aside from a checked rib from CPR? Better review the department training videos. Chauvin used the technique TAUGHT by that idiot chief’s department. Try to educate yourself.

Wrong.
Chauvin was taught to only use a choke hold like that is the other person was a deadly threat and self defense warranted causing harm and risking death.
It is obvious the choke hold was not needed and was the only cause of death.


No...it isn't the obvious cause of death according to the coroners report...if it was the cause of death the knee on the neck would have damaged the neck in some way...it didn't...

the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner, Andrew Baker:

"No life-threatening injuries identified --

"A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae

"B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures

"C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries

"D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries

"E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma"

In short: No bloodshot eyes and no trauma to any part of Floyd's neck.


And yet, day after day, prosecutors, witnesses and the media tell us that Chauvin "squeezed the life out of" Floyd. The medical evidence establishes that whatever else caused his death, it was NOT asphyxiation.

That's the entire case against Officer Chauvin! But the howling mob isn't giving up its holy religious observance because of one dork in a lab coat. The sun might not rise! The city of Minneapolis could be wiped out! Wait -- that might actually happen.


The medical examiner also found that Floyd had enough fentanyl in his system -- I don't want to say "to kill a horse," because that would be a cliche. But it would be enough to bump off an entire team of Budweiser Clydesdales. In technical medical jargon:

"A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:


"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying,
"deaths have been certified with levels of 3."

Three. But George Floyd went up to 11.

Naturally, Baker was quick to add, "I am not saying this killed him." Please don't throw me to the woke gods! Leave me to my test tubes! (And you thought lawyers were craven.)

Derek Chauvin, Human Sacrifice

Wrong.
The carotid artery and the esophagus are easily compressed enough to kill without leaving any trace at all.
The only way you can tell is that the brain dies first from lack of oxygen, and that is what the autopsy suggests.
Choking someone to death does not have to even leave a bruise

And the death could not have been caused by drugs.
There is no way he could have died that quickly from ingesting pills that take longer than that to just dissolve.
Nor would a drug overdose make it any less murder, since they easily could have gotten him to a hospital in time to save his life if they wanted to.
 
Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.
The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs

That is not correct......here, something you won't here about MPD policy...

Further, officers are not only permitted but required to use force not only to protect themselves and the public, but to protect the in-custody suspect, even from himself.

To the extent the officers believed Floyd was suffering from excited delirium–and we know they were, because they are heard discussing this concern on their body camera footage

the standard protocol is to completely restrain the suspect’s entire body to prevent the over-exertion believed to kill in cases of excited delirium.

Further, it is well recognized that overdose victims who regain consciousness often immediately respond with violence when they rouse, and thus steps to prevent this would be reasonable. This is all the more the case when the suspect is being restrained on the street in one of the busiest intersections of the city, with moving traffic mere feet away.


Excited delirium is from stimulants or psychedelic's, of which fentanyl is neither.
In fact, Floyd appeared slow, sleepy, and passive.
The exact opposite of excited delirium.
 
Passing fake $20's isn't a death penalty offense...and not recognizing that someone you're arresting for passing fake $20's is OD'ing on drugs isn't murder!

Everyone in that crowd could see Floyd was in distress... except for Chauvin.

He is a political officer of the mayor....you dumb shit....he was appointed by the mayor....you moron........he is going to say anything the mayor wants....to keep the democrat party brownshirts from burning the city down...again.

Do you understand that the cops knew he was on drugs and in trouble, and their training is to keep criminals subdued so they don't struggle and cause more damage from the over dose?

That's sounds suspiciously like, "We had to destroy the village to save it." you fucking retard...

But let's look at the man's record as a police officer, this supposed political hack.


A fifth-generation Minnesota resident, Arradondo joined the MPD in 1989 as a patrol officer in the Fourth Precinct and worked his way up through the police ranks until he was named the inspector for the First Precinct.[.... Arrandondo was promoted to head of the Internal Affairs Unit responsible for investigation of allegations of officer misconduct.[4]

Arradondo was a Deputy Chief and Assistant Chief before being nominated as Minneapolis's new Chief of Police by the Mayor of Minneapolis, after the resignation of former police chief Janeé Harteau in mid-2017, shortly after the shooting of Justine Damond by former Minneapolis police officer Mohammed Noor.[5]
[6]

Dates of Rank...
  • Patrol Officer - 1989
  • Sergeant - 1997
  • Lieutenant - 2007
  • Commander - 2012
  • Inspector - 2013
  • Deputy Chief - 2015
  • Assistant Chief - 2017
  • Chief of Police - 2017


So, 32 years as a cop, including being an inspector and head of the IA Unit... Seems to me that he should be an expert on what constitutes improper behavior by a police officer.

you moron...you idiot...you fucking child...
No, YOU are the child dumbfuck. Refusing to read ANY evidence and letting your hatred of whitey dictate everything. Hey dumbfuck, why did Floyd also LIE when asked directly if he had taken anything? He says NO twice. Plain as day. So you fucking uneducated racist how come there are ZERO injuries to the neck or chest aside from a checked rib from CPR? Better review the department training videos. Chauvin used the technique TAUGHT by that idiot chief’s department. Try to educate yourself.

Wrong.
Chauvin was taught to only use a choke hold like that is the other person was a deadly threat and self defense warranted causing harm and risking death.
It is obvious the choke hold was not needed and was the only cause of death.


No...it isn't the obvious cause of death according to the coroners report...if it was the cause of death the knee on the neck would have damaged the neck in some way...it didn't...

the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner, Andrew Baker:

"No life-threatening injuries identified --

"A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae

"B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures

"C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries

"D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries

"E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma"

In short: No bloodshot eyes and no trauma to any part of Floyd's neck.


And yet, day after day, prosecutors, witnesses and the media tell us that Chauvin "squeezed the life out of" Floyd. The medical evidence establishes that whatever else caused his death, it was NOT asphyxiation.

That's the entire case against Officer Chauvin! But the howling mob isn't giving up its holy religious observance because of one dork in a lab coat. The sun might not rise! The city of Minneapolis could be wiped out! Wait -- that might actually happen.


The medical examiner also found that Floyd had enough fentanyl in his system -- I don't want to say "to kill a horse," because that would be a cliche. But it would be enough to bump off an entire team of Budweiser Clydesdales. In technical medical jargon:

"A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:


"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying,
"deaths have been certified with levels of 3."

Three. But George Floyd went up to 11.

Naturally, Baker was quick to add, "I am not saying this killed him." Please don't throw me to the woke gods! Leave me to my test tubes! (And you thought lawyers were craven.)

Derek Chauvin, Human Sacrifice

Wrong.
The carotid artery and the esophagus are easily compressed enough to kill without leaving any trace at all.
The only way you can tell is that the brain dies first from lack of oxygen, and that is what the autopsy suggests.
Choking someone to death does not have to even leave a bruise

And the death could not have been caused by drugs.
There is no way he could have died that quickly from ingesting pills that take longer than that to just dissolve.
Nor would a drug overdose make it any less murder, since they easily could have gotten him to a hospital in time to save his life if they wanted to.

The carotid artery and the esophagus are easily compressed enough to kill without leaving any trace at all.


Sorry...that isn't what the prosecution is saying....they are saying he used excessive force against the neck...not that he used, "just enough."

Again.....he had 3X the lethal dose of fentanyl......plus a cocktail of other things in his system....revved up by his fight against the cops....you don't know what you are talking about.

They called paramedics ........... the paramedics refused to treat at the scene because of the angry, aggressive crowd...they took him and moved blocks away before they started to work on him.......

You don't understand what was going on...
 
Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.
The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs

That is not correct......here, something you won't here about MPD policy...

Further, officers are not only permitted but required to use force not only to protect themselves and the public, but to protect the in-custody suspect, even from himself.

To the extent the officers believed Floyd was suffering from excited delirium–and we know they were, because they are heard discussing this concern on their body camera footage

the standard protocol is to completely restrain the suspect’s entire body to prevent the over-exertion believed to kill in cases of excited delirium.

Further, it is well recognized that overdose victims who regain consciousness often immediately respond with violence when they rouse, and thus steps to prevent this would be reasonable. This is all the more the case when the suspect is being restrained on the street in one of the busiest intersections of the city, with moving traffic mere feet away.


Excited delirium is from stimulants or psychedelic's, of which fentanyl is neither.
In fact, Floyd appeared slow, sleepy, and passive.
The exact opposite of excited delirium.


The cops suspected delirium.......they aren't experts, and they didn't submit his blood for chemical analysis....they thought that's what it was and they restrained him as per MPD protocols ......
 
I have said this all along.
If anyone watches the ENTIRE - UNEDITED body cam videos that are available on YouTube, and you are objective, you will change your mind.

Floyd had multiple opportunities to tell officers he took a lethal dose. He knew he did. If you listen to what he is saying - he repeatedly states "I don't want to die, don't leave me alone, promise me you will stay with me - I am a good person, I don't want to die" - YET when asked did he take something - FLOYD SAYS NO.
You can also see at the beginning he was reasonably sober. Within a few minutes the drugs start to take effect, and you can see a large difference in his speech, and he becomes paranoid about dying or being alone. That is when the officer asked "what are you on? Did you take something? (NO) Well you are making me nervous, you aren't making any sense and you are not acting right"
Chauvin is a bully. There was no reason to continue to pin him down well after he stopped fighting. So I think negligent homicide is the charge because Floyd contributed MORE to his death than Chauvin.
PERIOD
Yes, most cases where people didn't intend to kill would fall under negligent homicide, involuntary manslaughter, or some cases might involve the condition of "reckless disregard."

Also legally, if it cannot be proven if someone intended to kill (as in the case of Amber Guyger who said in court, yes when she shot her weapon using tactical training it was for killing), then these other charges are easier to prove than murder.

I'm not sure if deliberately abusinh excessive force could count as criminal intent or "reckless disregard". Since police still have bias toward "govt immunity" they are allowed to use more force at their discretion.

I'm sorry to read here that Floyd kept denying he was on any drugs if that compounded the problem when instead it could have saved his life if they would have acted differently. Not sure if it would have made it worse, which is likely why he said no. Had he said he was impaired, how do you know they wouldn't rough him up worse? He probably said that to tell them he was aware and could testify if they harm him, hoping they would listen and stop the excess force.
 
Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.
The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

The autopsy said asphyxiation, and NOT drugs.
Asphyxiation caused by what? Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe as he was standing before they even tried to put him in the car. Are you claiming that was caused by the Police? Or is a more likely reason that the drugs he had ingested were filling his lungs with fluid making it hard for him to breath? An overdose of Fentanyl would have that effect.

I watched all the video and never heard Floyd complain about trouble breathing until they piled on top of him, on the ground.

Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid, and anything like that would have been obvious to the coronors.
No, all of the medical experts say it was murder through pressure on the neck.
Although weight on the rib cage was not going to help either.
Then you obviously DIDN'T watch all of the video because Floyd DID complain about having trouble breathing long before he was held down on the ground! Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid? You obviously don't know what an overdose of Fentanyl does!

How could drugs fill the lungs with fluid?
About the only way that could happen is with an allergic reaction, and fentanyl reduces allergic responses.
Here are the overdose symptoms:
{...
Overdose symptoms may include slow breathing and heart rate, severe drowsiness, muscle weakness, cold and clammy skin, pinpoint pupils, and fainting.
...}
Nothing about lungs filling with liquid, and that would take a very long time.


He fell asleep in the car before the cops arrived and the friends, girlfriend and drug dealer, couldn't wake him up...that is why they were still there when the cops arrived...

He had a cocktail in his system.....and over 3X the lethal level of fentanyl......

Wrong.
He was not asleep when the cops arrived.
The video shows him awake and reaching around in the car, before the police announce their presence.

A lethal level is one that can kill, not one that will for sure.
Due to tolerance levels increasing with use, this level likely had almost no effect on Floyd.
 
Passing fake $20's isn't a death penalty offense...and not recognizing that someone you're arresting for passing fake $20's is OD'ing on drugs isn't murder!

Everyone in that crowd could see Floyd was in distress... except for Chauvin.

He is a political officer of the mayor....you dumb shit....he was appointed by the mayor....you moron........he is going to say anything the mayor wants....to keep the democrat party brownshirts from burning the city down...again.

Do you understand that the cops knew he was on drugs and in trouble, and their training is to keep criminals subdued so they don't struggle and cause more damage from the over dose?

That's sounds suspiciously like, "We had to destroy the village to save it." you fucking retard...

But let's look at the man's record as a police officer, this supposed political hack.


A fifth-generation Minnesota resident, Arradondo joined the MPD in 1989 as a patrol officer in the Fourth Precinct and worked his way up through the police ranks until he was named the inspector for the First Precinct.[.... Arrandondo was promoted to head of the Internal Affairs Unit responsible for investigation of allegations of officer misconduct.[4]

Arradondo was a Deputy Chief and Assistant Chief before being nominated as Minneapolis's new Chief of Police by the Mayor of Minneapolis, after the resignation of former police chief Janeé Harteau in mid-2017, shortly after the shooting of Justine Damond by former Minneapolis police officer Mohammed Noor.[5]
[6]

Dates of Rank...
  • Patrol Officer - 1989
  • Sergeant - 1997
  • Lieutenant - 2007
  • Commander - 2012
  • Inspector - 2013
  • Deputy Chief - 2015
  • Assistant Chief - 2017
  • Chief of Police - 2017


So, 32 years as a cop, including being an inspector and head of the IA Unit... Seems to me that he should be an expert on what constitutes improper behavior by a police officer.

you moron...you idiot...you fucking child...
No, YOU are the child dumbfuck. Refusing to read ANY evidence and letting your hatred of whitey dictate everything. Hey dumbfuck, why did Floyd also LIE when asked directly if he had taken anything? He says NO twice. Plain as day. So you fucking uneducated racist how come there are ZERO injuries to the neck or chest aside from a checked rib from CPR? Better review the department training videos. Chauvin used the technique TAUGHT by that idiot chief’s department. Try to educate yourself.

Wrong.
Chauvin was taught to only use a choke hold like that is the other person was a deadly threat and self defense warranted causing harm and risking death.
It is obvious the choke hold was not needed and was the only cause of death.


No...it isn't the obvious cause of death according to the coroners report...if it was the cause of death the knee on the neck would have damaged the neck in some way...it didn't...

the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner, Andrew Baker:

"No life-threatening injuries identified --

"A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae

"B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures

"C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries

"D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries

"E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma"

In short: No bloodshot eyes and no trauma to any part of Floyd's neck.


And yet, day after day, prosecutors, witnesses and the media tell us that Chauvin "squeezed the life out of" Floyd. The medical evidence establishes that whatever else caused his death, it was NOT asphyxiation.

That's the entire case against Officer Chauvin! But the howling mob isn't giving up its holy religious observance because of one dork in a lab coat. The sun might not rise! The city of Minneapolis could be wiped out! Wait -- that might actually happen.


The medical examiner also found that Floyd had enough fentanyl in his system -- I don't want to say "to kill a horse," because that would be a cliche. But it would be enough to bump off an entire team of Budweiser Clydesdales. In technical medical jargon:

"A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:


"1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL"

That's just the first few words of the "Toxicology" section. Also listed are norfentanyl, 4-ANPP, methamphetamine, cannabinoids, amphetamines, morphine and so on.

But the 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl is rather important, inasmuch as the chief medical examiner called this "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances," saying,
"deaths have been certified with levels of 3."

Three. But George Floyd went up to 11.

Naturally, Baker was quick to add, "I am not saying this killed him." Please don't throw me to the woke gods! Leave me to my test tubes! (And you thought lawyers were craven.)

Derek Chauvin, Human Sacrifice

Wrong.
The carotid artery and the esophagus are easily compressed enough to kill without leaving any trace at all.
The only way you can tell is that the brain dies first from lack of oxygen, and that is what the autopsy suggests.
Choking someone to death does not have to even leave a bruise

And the death could not have been caused by drugs.
There is no way he could have died that quickly from ingesting pills that take longer than that to just dissolve.
Nor would a drug overdose make it any less murder, since they easily could have gotten him to a hospital in time to save his life if they wanted to.

why was he falling to floor and saying “I can’t breathe” before Chauvin even touched him?
 

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