Politics, MAGA and Evangelicals

[Mac1958]

Yeah, what you posted against Trump supporters and Christians wasn't 'personal'...

You're a bigot, your opinion is meaningless, your arrogance won't allow you to see that though, which makes you and your continued attempts to belittle and insult Christians meaningless as well. Except of course to your fellow lefty travelers, a pathetic lot to be sure.

Correct, it wasn't personal. Your name is not in the post, and I was not responding to you.

But since you bring it up, are you a Christian? I wonder what your pastor would think about the words you use.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Well, it's okay when HE lies.

He's saving America from Satan 'n stuff.

Of course he is, because...................

 

[NotfooledbyW]

How can any American celebrate the indictments of Trump when Americans are starving on the streets and addicted to drugs?​

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Politics, MAGA and Evangelicals​

What is not sane about law abiding American voters, who live in a rational facts based universe, being repulsed and disgusted with whatever the fuck you MAGA dunderheads think Saint The Donald is doing for you.

I am extremely proud of hating a good for nothing con-man who has the easiest ready pre-programmed marks on earth:

White Christian Nationalists immersed in the Saving Baby Fetus Cult.

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[Mac1958]

Of course he is, because...................

Holy crap. No pun intended.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Holy crap. No pun intended.

Holy crap......Indeed.
Trump's cult believes that shit.

 

[OldFlame]

Correct, it wasn't personal. Your name is not in the post, and I was not responding to you.

But since you bring it up, are you a Christian? I wonder what your pastor would think about the words you use.

It was personal to every person who either supports Trump, is a Christian, or both.

Holy crap, that's interesting. MAGA followers by and large and not very good at articulating their reasoning

Just a baseless insult that shows what a pig you are.

It's none of your business what I am, see number 4 below, it's why you people never claim to have any moral position on anything, you don't want to be held to your own 'standards'. In what world do you think any Christian is perfect or follows exactly what Christ would have expected? It kind of defeats the whole purpose of His coming here, does it not?

Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. - It's a life lesson, and doesn't only apply to Christians.

Unless you are a completely perfect person, who are you to call anyone out about anything?

The Rules​

1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people."
3. "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
8. "Keep the pressure on."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

 

[Mac1958]

It was personal to every person who either supports Trump, is a Christian, or both.

It's none of your business what I am, see number 4 below, it's why you people never claim to have any moral position on anything, you don't want to be held to your own 'standards'. In what world do you think any Christian is perfect or follows exactly what Christ would have expected? It kind of defeats the whole purpose of His coming here, does it not?

Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. - It's a life lesson, and doesn't only apply to Christians.

Unless you are a completely perfect person, who are you to call anyone out about anything?

The Rules​

1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people."
3. "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
8. "Keep the pressure on."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Yeah, I wasn't expecting a straight answer. This is the kind of dodge I get most of the time here.

Phony.

Phonies.

 

[Mac-7]

COMMIES!

i see Commies EVERYWHERE

Like the man says, if it walks like a duck (or a Marxist)…

 

[OldFlame]

Yeah, I wasn't expecting a straight answer. This is the kind of dodge I get most of the time here.

Phony.

Phonies.

Straight answer to what exactly?

Please point out a perfect Christian.

Talk about a dodge...

 

[OldFlame]

Mac can only laugh at your posts when he has no response. He's a clown.

 

[Mac1958]

Holy crap......Indeed.
Trump's cult believes that shit.

A lot of them are phonies, though. Ask most of the Trumpsters on this board if they're actually Christians, and the spin begins.

Religion is ripe to be perverted. Whether it's here or the Middle East.

 

[OldFlame]

A lot of them are phonies, though. Ask most of the Trumpsters on this board if they're actually Christians, and the spin begins.

Religion is ripe to be perverted. Whether it's here or the Middle East.

Why are you obsessed with Christians supporting Trump? Only answer is that you're a bigot.

Name one perfect Christian.

 

[OldFlame]

Another laugh by the TDS Culstist, you start a thread, and then when asked to defend your op, you have nothing.

 

[Dragonlady]

Educate yourself numbnuts

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You need to quote verses 21 to 23. Your goods are only safe until someone stronger or better armed comes along, and neither your armour or your sword in which you trusted will save you.

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils."

 

[OldFlame]

You need to quote verses 21 to 23. Your goods are only safe until someone stronger or better armed comes along, and neither your armour or your sword in which you trusted will save you.

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils."

But you lefties won't do that, you don't believe in using strength to overcome and basically steal from another group or person, right?

 

[Richard-H]

If you're one of the many (like me) who thinks that much of America's Christian population has sold its soul to a con man, here's a really interesting interview -- and one really fascinating point.

Tim Alberta is a devout Christian who has been so troubled by this that he has written a book on the topic. The interview is almost 36 minutes, but there is one moment where I think he makes a very interesting (and even fair, kind of) point. This doesn't absolve the obvious dishonesty and rank hypocrisy that we see, but at least it explains it in a way:

At 11:46: "For a lot of these people who are panicked, who are just stricken with fear about the culture changing so quickly and the country turning on Christianity, and that their faith is in the crosshairs and one day they're going to be persecuted for their faith in this country -- a lot of folks believe that -- they think the barbarians are at the gates, and so they need a barbarian to defend them. To protect them.

"And so, they look at Trump, and the behavior and the rhetoric, and in some sense, because he is not bound by biblical teachings, not bound by biblical virtues, he is free to fight for them in ways that no good Christian ever would".

Holy crap, that's interesting. MAGA followers by and large and not very good at articulating their reasoning, and he does a very good job here. Again, it doesn't explain away many of the behaviors, but at least there is some reasoning here to grab on to.

All religious institutions need to generate paranoia and portray the entire rest of the world as evil. That's how these religions survive.

"It's us against the evil world."

What is weird is that a group of religious people would choose a person that is the anti-thesis of everything they claim to believe to be their champion.

Perhaps what the Evangelicals really worship is money and power.

When a person tells you they are a Christian, always ask: "Classic Jesus or Republican Jesus?"

 

[Dragonlady]

Why are you obsessed with Christians supporting Trump? Only answer is that you're a bigot.

Name one perfect Christian.

Your post doesn't even make logical sense. As a retired Sunday School teacher and an elder in the Presbyterian Church, I cannot fathom how anyone who purports to demand "morality" of its leaders could possibly vote for such an amoral man as Donald Trump.

We're not asking people to be perfect Christians. We're asking why people so strong in faith that they cannot vote for a politician who would allow women to have reproductive choice, could vote for a man who admits to raping women he finds attractive, who lies, steals and cheats in his business dealings, and who was in the middle of fraud trial when he was elected President.

If allowing women to make their own moral decisions is a disqualifying lack of character for the Christian right, how can they justify voting for Trump. If God chooses ALL of our leaders, why are all Democratic leaders "demons"? Shouldn't they be respected as God's chosen leaders too.

It is the hypocrisy of the Christian right, which is now tying itself into knots to justify it's ongoing belief and faith in Donald Trump as "God's Chosen One". Beware false prophets.

 

[Mac1958]

All religious institutions need to generate paranoia and portray the entire rest of the world as evil. That's how these religions survive.

"It's us against the evil world."

What is weird is that a group of religious people would choose a person that is the anti-thesis of everything they claim to believe to be their champion.

Perhaps what the Evangelicals really worship is money and power.

When a person tells you they are a Christian, always ask: "Classic Jesus or Republican Jesus?"

Yeah, it's not hard to find religion being used as a weapon around the world.

Religion can provide strength, guidance, answers, comfort, a lot of good stuff. But when you mix it with politics, it invariably becomes perverted.

Look at the people here. Most of them are phonies, or "Cafeteria Christians" at best. And people wonder why more and more are turning off to religion.

 

[OldFlame]

Your post doesn't even make logical sense. As a retired Sunday School teacher and an elder in the Presbyterian Church, I cannot fathom how anyone who purports to demand "morality" of its leaders could possibly vote for such an amoral man as Donald Trump.

We're not asking people to be perfect Christians. We're asking why people so strong in faith that they cannot vote for a politician who would allow women to have reproductive choice, could vote for a man who admits to raping women he finds attractive, who lies, steals and cheats in his business dealings, and who was in the middle of fraud trial when he was elected President.

If allowing women to make their own moral decisions is a disqualifying lack of character for the Christian right, how can they justify voting for Trump. If God chooses ALL of our leaders, why are all Democratic leaders "demons"? Shouldn't they be respected as God's chosen leaders too.

It is the hypocrisy of the Christian right, which is now tying itself into knots to justify it's ongoing belief and faith in Donald Trump as "God's Chosen One". Beware false prophets.

Of course you wouldn't understand, I would never expect you to. Nor was I talking to you.

 

[OldFlame]

Yeah, it's not hard to find religion being used as a weapon around the world.

Religion can provide strength, guidance, answers, comfort, a lot of good stuff. But when you mix it with politics, it invariably becomes perverted.

Look at the people here. Most of them are phonies, or "Cafeteria Christians" at best. And people wonder why more and more are turning off to religion.

If you base your religion and faith off of someone else's personal actions, then you're not very bright.