POLL: Does the left want to end capitalism?

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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We are on the brink because of mass-immigration promoted by the Capitalists.

Now your just fucking lying.

The importation of Muslims happened under the LEFTIST Socialists in Europe.

Western Europe is Capitalist for starters.

Communist Europe had solved it's diversity problem, and now Capitalists are supporting them to come back in.

The idea was Capitalist motivated, in the first place.

Not Enough Immigration? Leading German Economist Demands More Workers from Abroad - SPIEGEL ONLINE - International

But not all. Indeed, according to Klaus Zimmermann, president of the influential German Institute for Economic Research (DIW Berlin), Germany needs even more immigrants. In an interview with the newspaper Hamburger Abendblatt, Zimmermann said that the country's aging society means that Germany "badly needs workers and immigrants from abroad." He said the labor market needed "net immigration of at least 500,000 more people each year to ensure our economic strength."

 

[danielpalos]

I'm very surprised. The left wing is more ignorant than I realized.

Tax Cut Economics is pure ignorance that benefits those with the most capital, the most.

I think in general the right wing is more ignorant than the left. This thread has shifted my perspective somewhat, though. It's closer than I thought.

What is the left correct about?

Completely unchecked capitalism does not work for ordinary people. It eats itself and becomes destructive to the comfort of everyday people.

Wrong. Unchecked capitalism produced the greatest increase in the standard of living for the common man every seen.

Only in right wing fantasy.

 

[danielpalos]

The leftist are against anything that requires them to work. This guy is a perfect example....

Equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, right wingers.

 

[bripat9643]

It most certainly is a form of government. Socialism is government force imposed on the economic sphere.

That is not my understanding of socialism. Socialism is fundamentally a way of producing commodities sans private property rights. We can improve upon nature without laying claim to the earths natural bounty.

Government exists to protect private property relations.

Can you provide an example of socialism that existed without government force?

Can you provide an example of capitalism that existed without government force?

What guarantees private property relations if not government force?

Government has to run the courts, that's all the need to do

Augustus Ceasar didnt even have a police department when he became Emperor

Government must run prisons and armies as well.

I don't think we should have prisons. I think we should bring back flogging.

 

[bripat9643]

It's my opinion that the left wing is not an opponent of capitalism. What do you think?

I'm left wing and love capitalism What I don't like is the Nazi racist we have in our WH now and all those supporting him and putting up with his BS ,,This includes his protectors in congress

Show us one thing you've posted that demonstrates your love for capitalism.

Here's one bri ,,believe it or not
YTD Change
+$844,121.43

Huh? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

 

[tycho1572]

The leftist are against anything that requires them to work. This guy is a perfect example....

Equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, right wingers.

That guy is an excellent example of the mindset of the typical liberal. Lazy and always expecting more handouts.

 

[danielpalos]

That is not my understanding of socialism. Socialism is fundamentally a way of producing commodities sans private property rights. We can improve upon nature without laying claim to the earths natural bounty.

Government exists to protect private property relations.

Can you provide an example of socialism that existed without government force?

Can you provide an example of capitalism that existed without government force?

What guarantees private property relations if not government force?

Government has to run the courts, that's all the need to do

Augustus Ceasar didnt even have a police department when he became Emperor

Government must run prisons and armies as well.

I don't think we should have prisons. I think we should bring back flogging.

private justice when you can afford it?

 

[danielpalos]

The leftist are against anything that requires them to work. This guy is a perfect example....

Equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at will, right wingers.

That guy is an excellent example of how many liberals are.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage; there is no unemployment under Capitalism, only underpayment!

 

[bripat9643]

To function efficiently, Capitalism needs government oversight to maintain a level playing field

Wrong.

So it's ok for scum to inside trade?

Who have these "scum" harmed? Did you know that it's legal for members of Congress to trade based on information they obtain in their function as Congressmen?

 

[edward37]

It's my opinion that the left wing is not an opponent of capitalism. What do you think?

I'm left wing and love capitalism What I don't like is the Nazi racist we have in our WH now and all those supporting him and putting up with his BS ,,This includes his protectors in congress

Show us one thing you've posted that demonstrates your love for capitalism.

Here's one bri ,,believe it or not
YTD Change
+$844,121.43

Huh? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

I love capitalism But figured you wouldn't get it

 

[bripat9643]

Can you provide an example of socialism that existed without government force?

Can you provide an example of capitalism that existed without government force?

What guarantees private property relations if not government force?

Government has to run the courts, that's all the need to do

Augustus Ceasar didnt even have a police department when he became Emperor

Government must run prisons and armies as well.

I don't think we should have prisons. I think we should bring back flogging.

private justice when you can afford it?

Who can afford the government "justice" we have now?

 

[bripat9643]

It's my opinion that the left wing is not an opponent of capitalism. What do you think?

I'm left wing and love capitalism What I don't like is the Nazi racist we have in our WH now and all those supporting him and putting up with his BS ,,This includes his protectors in congress

Show us one thing you've posted that demonstrates your love for capitalism.

Here's one bri ,,believe it or not
YTD Change
+$844,121.43

Huh? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

I love capitalism But figured you wouldn't get it

How would anyone "get" something as cryptic as that?

 

[danielpalos]

Can you provide an example of capitalism that existed without government force?

What guarantees private property relations if not government force?

Government has to run the courts, that's all the need to do

Augustus Ceasar didnt even have a police department when he became Emperor

Government must run prisons and armies as well.

I don't think we should have prisons. I think we should bring back flogging.

private justice when you can afford it?

Who can afford the government "justice" we have now?

the tax payers.

 

[Natural Citizen]

What is a capitalist monetary policy, in your view?

It was a mistake for me to word it like that. Economic theory and monetary policy are two different discussions. Worthy of its own thread and had by competent people.

I don't like the word capitalism. I like free market capitalism. But if we say the two together, we don't have that.

I'm taking a short break, I''m working, but I'll come back and expand on it if you'd like.

 

[Confounding]

I'm very surprised. The left wing is more ignorant than I realized.

Tax Cut Economics is pure ignorance that benefits those with the most capital, the most.

I think in general the right wing is more ignorant than the left. This thread has shifted my perspective somewhat, though. It's closer than I thought.

What is the left correct about?

Completely unchecked capitalism does not work for ordinary people. It eats itself and becomes destructive to the comfort of everyday people.

Wrong. Unchecked capitalism produced the greatest increase in the standard of living for the common man ever seen.

The industrial revolution didn't hurt.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Yep. The screamingly obvious point of equilibrium here is effective and efficient regulation. But the libertarians controlling the GOP and the left wingers controlling the Dems have other ideas.
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What a load of horse pucky.

I don't have time to correct this silliness, but I will when I have time later on.

You seem to be rather comfortable repeating this nonsense, too.

I'm surprised you're not more careful the way you keep poppin off about libertarians. Didn't you know that one of these days you just might run into a real one? And in front of all of your friends?

 

[bripat9643]

Tax Cut Economics is pure ignorance that benefits those with the most capital, the most.

I think in general the right wing is more ignorant than the left. This thread has shifted my perspective somewhat, though. It's closer than I thought.

What is the left correct about?

Completely unchecked capitalism does not work for ordinary people. It eats itself and becomes destructive to the comfort of everyday people.

Wrong. Unchecked capitalism produced the greatest increase in the standard of living for the common man ever seen.

The industrial revolution didn't hurt.

That was the result of capitalism. Industrial revolutions don't happen in countries that don't respect property rights and observe free enterprise.

 

[danielpalos]

I think in general the right wing is more ignorant than the left. This thread has shifted my perspective somewhat, though. It's closer than I thought.

What is the left correct about?

Completely unchecked capitalism does not work for ordinary people. It eats itself and becomes destructive to the comfort of everyday people.

Wrong. Unchecked capitalism produced the greatest increase in the standard of living for the common man ever seen.

The industrial revolution didn't hurt.

That was the result of capitalism. Industrial revolutions don't happen in countries that don't respect property rights and observe free enterprise.

The former Soviets beat us to outer space.

The Romans already proved, Government can solve all problems.

Only the right wing, never gets it.

 

[Confounding]

That was the result of capitalism.

Do you believe that without capitalism the industrial revolution wouldn't have happened?

 

[bripat9643]

That was the result of capitalism.

Do you believe that without capitalism the industrial revolution wouldn't have happened?

Exactly.