[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

[RKMBrown]

You said that capital was the life blood of business.

Tell us how that works. How money creates goods and services.

Explain how you create goods and services without buildings, without tools, without computers and without machinery?

Life blood?

Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan. Unless you're in the lawn mowing business or some other me too gig, the design of the product or service, the demand for it, your competitive advantages, your supply chain, your logistics, your customer service plan, HR plan etc, are what makes or breaks the business.

This doesn't take into account that the vast majority of businesses are ongoing, not new. Ongoing businesses take capital from retained earnings.

You guys are trying to sell plutocracy. To the wealthy goes the wealth and power. There is nothing less American.

It's easy to see how conservatism in government and business changed America from exceptional to, at best ordinary.

You must be so proud.

>>> Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan.

ROFL not if you have socialists forcing high costs on businesses through taxation and regulation, not if you have dumbocrats vilifying profit, threatening higher taxes and chasing off investors. Where do you think this money comes from? Are you mental?

The dumbocrats completely destroyed our green energy market. How? by taking tax dollars from viable producers and redistributing them to Obama's best friends to make the POS producers competitors of the viable producers... Democrats are criminals. The only reason Obama is not in jail is because democrats get away with murder in this country.

 

[PMZ]

Explain how you create goods and services without buildings, without tools, without computers and without machinery?

Life blood?

Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan. Unless you're in the lawn mowing business or some other me too gig, the design of the product or service, the demand for it, your competitive advantages, your supply chain, your logistics, your customer service plan, HR plan etc, are what makes or breaks the business.

This doesn't take into account that the vast majority of businesses are ongoing, not new. Ongoing businesses take capital from retained earnings.

You guys are trying to sell plutocracy. To the wealthy goes the wealth and power. There is nothing less American.

It's easy to see how conservatism in government and business changed America from exceptional to, at best ordinary.

You must be so proud.

>>> Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan.

ROFL not if you have socialists forcing high costs on businesses through taxation and regulation, not if you have dumbocrats vilifying profit, threatening higher taxes and chasing off investors. Where do you think this money comes from? Are you mental?

The dumbocrats completely destroyed our green energy market. How? by taking tax dollars from viable producers and redistributing them to Obama's best friends to make the POS producers competitors of the viable producers... Democrats are criminals. The only reason Obama is not in jail is because democrats get away with murder in this country.

You want guaranteed wealth redistribution up. Despite our extreme wealth inequality that resulted from years of massive wealth redistribution up.

Why? There is still 15% in the hands of the 80%. You won't be regarded as true royalty until there is more abject poverty among more people.

 

[dcraelin]

the small business administration subsidizes lots of small businesses. Tax giveaways and other subsidies by local governments help fund lots of business expansions, while pushing the burden of taxes more and more on everyday folks. Its become a racket.

Successful, growing, well run business benefits everyone. The SBA helps people capable of learning to achieve that.

Generally the government shouldn't be in the business of subsidizing businesses. If they cant make it thats tough. When the government gets involved in stuff like this it invariably screws things up.

 

[PMZ]

the small business administration subsidizes lots of small businesses. Tax giveaways and other subsidies by local governments help fund lots of business expansions, while pushing the burden of taxes more and more on everyday folks. Its become a racket.

Successful, growing, well run business benefits everyone. The SBA helps people capable of learning to achieve that.

Generally the government shouldn't be in the business of subsidizing businesses. If they cant make it thats tough. When the government gets involved in stuff like this it invariably screws things up.

You present no evidence.

 

[RKMBrown]

Life blood?

Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan. Unless you're in the lawn mowing business or some other me too gig, the design of the product or service, the demand for it, your competitive advantages, your supply chain, your logistics, your customer service plan, HR plan etc, are what makes or breaks the business.

This doesn't take into account that the vast majority of businesses are ongoing, not new. Ongoing businesses take capital from retained earnings.

You guys are trying to sell plutocracy. To the wealthy goes the wealth and power. There is nothing less American.

It's easy to see how conservatism in government and business changed America from exceptional to, at best ordinary.

You must be so proud.

>>> Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan.

ROFL not if you have socialists forcing high costs on businesses through taxation and regulation, not if you have dumbocrats vilifying profit, threatening higher taxes and chasing off investors. Where do you think this money comes from? Are you mental?

The dumbocrats completely destroyed our green energy market. How? by taking tax dollars from viable producers and redistributing them to Obama's best friends to make the POS producers competitors of the viable producers... Democrats are criminals. The only reason Obama is not in jail is because democrats get away with murder in this country.

You want guaranteed wealth redistribution up. Despite our extreme wealth inequality that resulted from years of massive wealth redistribution up.

Why? There is still 15% in the hands of the 80%. You won't be regarded as true royalty until there is more abject poverty among more people.

blah blah blah, you think you can make people rich by paying them to sit on their asses... what a retard.

 

[PMZ]

>>> Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan.

ROFL not if you have socialists forcing high costs on businesses through taxation and regulation, not if you have dumbocrats vilifying profit, threatening higher taxes and chasing off investors. Where do you think this money comes from? Are you mental?

The dumbocrats completely destroyed our green energy market. How? by taking tax dollars from viable producers and redistributing them to Obama's best friends to make the POS producers competitors of the viable producers... Democrats are criminals. The only reason Obama is not in jail is because democrats get away with murder in this country.

You want guaranteed wealth redistribution up. Despite our extreme wealth inequality that resulted from years of massive wealth redistribution up.

Why? There is still 15% in the hands of the 80%. You won't be regarded as true royalty until there is more abject poverty among more people.

blah blah blah, you think you can make people rich by paying them to sit on their asses... what a retard.

People seek wealth in order to afford sitting on their asses.

 

[RKMBrown]

You want guaranteed wealth redistribution up. Despite our extreme wealth inequality that resulted from years of massive wealth redistribution up.

Why? There is still 15% in the hands of the 80%. You won't be regarded as true royalty until there is more abject poverty among more people.

blah blah blah, you think you can make people rich by paying them to sit on their asses... what a retard.

People seek wealth in order to afford sitting on their asses.

Speak for yourself you lazy shit.

 

[kaz]

Buy American.

Poor business people believe that price is the only variable in product choice.

They've forgotten innovation.

They also don't know anything about productivity which has always allowed us a higher standard of living than the rest of the world.

They haven't forgotten a thing, Komrade, but people like you make it impossible to invest in their businesses and improve their productivity. There's no point in innovating when the bureaucrats will outlaw your innovations and the politicians will tax away any profits your innovations may yield.



When business survival depends on kicking government butt hole, you don't get a lot of business leaders. If you want business leaders, then Washington should quite trying to run every business.

They wouldn't make it in politics. They'd either be fired after one term or impeached.

They needed someone to mow their lawns so they layed some off.

Well, that's true, because the only thing required to make it in politics is to be a skilled liar and a two-faced scumbag. Running a business requires a different skill set, except for in the age of Obama.

What skill does it take to run a business compared to running a country?

The skill to run a business is far higher. If you fail, you go broke. When you run a country if you fail, you simply use guns to take more from your victims.

Obama has done nothing right, he's a liar, a race baiter, he has no skill at all. Maybe you should have picked someone who knew more than how to find the Senate mens room and vote "present" on bills, ya think?

 

[PMZ]

They haven't forgotten a thing, Komrade, but people like you make it impossible to invest in their businesses and improve their productivity. There's no point in innovating when the bureaucrats will outlaw your innovations and the politicians will tax away any profits your innovations may yield.



When business survival depends on kicking government butt hole, you don't get a lot of business leaders. If you want business leaders, then Washington should quite trying to run every business.




Well, that's true, because the only thing required to make it in politics is to be a skilled liar and a two-faced scumbag. Running a business requires a different skill set, except for in the age of Obama.

What skill does it take to run a business compared to running a country?

The skill to run a business is far higher. If you fail, you go broke. When you run a country if you fail, you simply use guns to take more from your victims.

Obama has done nothing right, he's a liar, a race baiter, he has no skill at all. Maybe you should have picked someone who knew more than how to find the Senate mens room and vote "present" on bills, ya think?

I know lots of business owners who aren't even very good at that. Don't you read the posts here?

They wouldn't stand a chance of even getting elected to government.

 

[PMZ]

blah blah blah, you think you can make people rich by paying them to sit on their asses... what a retard.

People seek wealth in order to afford sitting on their asses.

Speak for yourself you lazy shit.

I see that I hit the mark.

 

[RKMBrown]

People seek wealth in order to afford sitting on their asses.

Speak for yourself you lazy shit.

I see that I hit the mark.

I work 40hrs a week. How many hours a week do you work?

 

[kaz]

What skill does it take to run a business compared to running a country?

The skill to run a business is far higher. If you fail, you go broke. When you run a country if you fail, you simply use guns to take more from your victims.

Obama has done nothing right, he's a liar, a race baiter, he has no skill at all. Maybe you should have picked someone who knew more than how to find the Senate mens room and vote "present" on bills, ya think?

I know lots of business owners who aren't even very good at that. Don't you read the posts here?

Your Marxists drivel are not educational.

They wouldn't stand a chance of even getting elected to government.

That has nothing to do with being good at it. Obama won two national elections and he's an angry, arrogant finger pointing loser and a liar.

 

[Gadawg73]

You said that capital was the life blood of business.

Tell us how that works. How money creates goods and services.

Explain how you create goods and services without buildings, without tools, without computers and without machinery?

Life blood?

Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan. Unless you're in the lawn mowing business or some other me too gig, the design of the product or service, the demand for it, your competitive advantages, your supply chain, your logistics, your customer service plan, HR plan etc, are what makes or breaks the business.

This doesn't take into account that the vast majority of businesses are ongoing, not new. Ongoing businesses take capital from retained earnings.

You guys are trying to sell plutocracy. To the wealthy goes the wealth and power. There is nothing less American.

It's easy to see how conservatism in government and business changed America from exceptional to, at best ordinary.

You must be so proud.

In this market money is an easy resource to obtain?
You have no clue because you have no skin in the game.
Capital is hard to get now as investors are leaving this country and investing overseas.
Ever heard of China? You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
You state that corporations are leaving the country taking investment dollars with them and then you claim there is plenty of money here for capital investing left here.
Which is it?
The power goes to those of us that risk hundreds of thousands of dollars to employ others and IF we make a profit.

 

[Gadawg73]

You said that capital was the life blood of business.

Tell us how that works. How money creates goods and services.

Explain how you create goods and services without buildings, without tools, without computers and without machinery?

Life blood?

Money is the easiest resource to get for a good business plan. Unless you're in the lawn mowing business or some other me too gig, the design of the product or service, the demand for it, your competitive advantages, your supply chain, your logistics, your customer service plan, HR plan etc, are what makes or breaks the business.

This doesn't take into account that the vast majority of businesses are ongoing, not new. Ongoing businesses take capital from retained earnings.

You guys are trying to sell plutocracy. To the wealthy goes the wealth and power. There is nothing less American.

It's easy to see how conservatism in government and business changed America from exceptional to, at best ordinary.

You must be so proud.

Wow, you are really dense.
Economic growth is what creates more jobs and that is predominantly new capital ventures with new businesses, NOT existing businesses.
Most businesses FAIL because of massive regulations, taxes and statutes.
A business owner no matter how small needs to have knowledge in finance, accounting, legal, management, office management, taxes, government, liability, personnel, insurance, marketing, sales and customer service to even have a chance.
The United States Small Business Administration statistics over a 20 year period has it that out of ALL businesses started over the last 20 years 52% of them fail within 3 years.
Please go to another subject other than business as you are making yourself look very foolish here.

 

[Gadawg73]

Successful, growing, well run business benefits everyone. The SBA helps people capable of learning to achieve that.

SBA statistics make you look like a fool.
52% of all start up businesses fail and SBA exists because everyone knows that economic growth, NOT existing businesses, is what grows the economy and create jobs.

 

[Gadawg73]

A well run business is one that makes a PROFIT.

 

[PMZ]

A well run business is one that makes a PROFIT.

So is a well executed robbery.

 

[PMZ]

Speak for yourself you lazy shit.

I see that I hit the mark.

I work 40hrs a week. How many hours a week do you work?

You wouldn't know work if it was stapled to your forehead.

 

[RKMBrown]

I see that I hit the mark.

I work 40hrs a week. How many hours a week do you work?

You wouldn't know work if it was stapled to your forehead.

My left nut produced more than you did all year, this while I was sleeping last night.

 

[Gadawg73]

A well run business is one that makes a PROFIT.

So is a well executed robbery.

Making yourself look even stupider by equating a legal business making a profit with theft.
Stalin would have been proud.