DiamondDave
Army Vet
Still laugh at this bullshit assertion that government is either to distribute income or to control how wealth is distributed... how very totalitarian
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It makes you rich, thus evil. People like PMS don't like to work hard, or study, or take risks, so it's not fair to them that other people do and end up building things like companies that grow and hire people for a decent wage and build products. PMS wants us to live in caves and distribute labor and food evenly where we keep an eye on everyone and make sure no one gets ahead of anyone else in the cave.PMZ does not want people to prosper on their own merits in this country. He wants to sit on his butt and collect as much money as possible. And if you don't like it you can leave. But he realizes that if he shoots for money from the 51% he'll loose the vote so he wants to make sure only the 49% get raped.
Exactly.
According to PMS anyone who works a second job and saves their money to get ahead is a greedy workaholic.
I have yet to get an answer from people like PMS as to what exactly is so abhorrent about working a second job in order to improve one's financial position.
The fact that many Americans pay no income tax is an effect caused by the way we choose to distribute income.
^^^ I vote this post by PMZ as the dumbest post ever made in the history of mankind.
I think the fact that you can't see my point is a major clue in why you were so easily and thoroughly fooled by conservative media propaganda.
You believe that it's possible to pay people below poverty wages and then collect taxes from them.
It makes you rich, thus evil. People like PMS don't like to work hard, or study, or take risks, so it's not fair to them that other people do and end up building things like companies that grow and hire people for a decent wage and build products. PMS wants us to live in caves and distribute labor and food evenly where we keep an eye on everyone and make sure no one gets ahead of anyone else in the cave.Exactly.
According to PMS anyone who works a second job and saves their money to get ahead is a greedy workaholic.
I have yet to get an answer from people like PMS as to what exactly is so abhorrent about working a second job in order to improve one's financial position.
Anybody who knows me would say that this is about as opposite who I am as can be. Yet it's a necessary thing for conservatives to believe about non conservatives, in order to buy into the cult 's mythology.
If anyone asks ''what kind of person is most susceptible to conservatism?'', remember this.
Still laugh at this bullshit assertion that government is either to distribute income or to control how wealth is distributed... how very totalitarian
It makes you rich, thus evil. People like PMS don't like to work hard, or study, or take risks, so it's not fair to them that other people do and end up building things like companies that grow and hire people for a decent wage and build products. PMS wants us to live in caves and distribute labor and food evenly where we keep an eye on everyone and make sure no one gets ahead of anyone else in the cave.
Anybody who knows me would say that this is about as opposite who I am as can be. Yet it's a necessary thing for conservatives to believe about non conservatives, in order to buy into the cult 's mythology.
If anyone asks ''what kind of person is most susceptible to conservatism?'', remember this.
So you were wildly successful and now are apologetic and feel you should be forced to give up your assets for some past sins? Explain, cause I don't get this we should be a socialist society BS.
Anybody who knows me would say that this is about as opposite who I am as can be. Yet it's a necessary thing for conservatives to believe about non conservatives, in order to buy into the cult 's mythology.
If anyone asks ''what kind of person is most susceptible to conservatism?'', remember this.
So you were wildly successful and now are apologetic and feel you should be forced to give up your assets for some past sins? Explain, cause I don't get this we should be a socialist society BS.
I have been wildly successful. Part of that is to live happily within my means. And I pay all of my bills including taxes.
If you have to have someone else pay your taxes in order to live within your means you are doing something wrong. Either raise your means or lower your life style.
Still laugh at this bullshit assertion that government is either to distribute income or to control how wealth is distributed... how very totalitarian
All governments do it.
^^^ I vote this post by PMZ as the dumbest post ever made in the history of mankind.
I think the fact that you can't see my point is a major clue in why you were so easily and thoroughly fooled by conservative media propaganda.
You believe that it's possible to pay people below poverty wages and then collect taxes from them.
Just because I don't agree with your point, does not mean that I don't understand it.
If minimum wage was moved up by 10x the poverty level would move up 10x. Poverty level does not mean what you think it means. 50% of the population will always earn more than the other half. 50% of the population will always work harder than the other half. 50% of the population will always be smarter than the other half. Why? Because if you cut an apple in half there are two sides. If everyone always gets an A no matter what they do, what's the point of having grades? What's the point of having money at all if it means nothing?
If you don't like the amount an employer offers you, become the employer.
Everyone should pay their share for the costs of this country. It should be divided up evenly, but I'm ok with it just being a flat % of income till we ban income taxes.
I think the fact that you can't see my point is a major clue in why you were so easily and thoroughly fooled by conservative media propaganda.
You believe that it's possible to pay people below poverty wages and then collect taxes from them.
Just because I don't agree with your point, does not mean that I don't understand it.
If minimum wage was moved up by 10x the poverty level would move up 10x. Poverty level does not mean what you think it means. 50% of the population will always earn more than the other half. 50% of the population will always work harder than the other half. 50% of the population will always be smarter than the other half. Why? Because if you cut an apple in half there are two sides. If everyone always gets an A no matter what they do, what's the point of having grades? What's the point of having money at all if it means nothing?
If you don't like the amount an employer offers you, become the employer.
Everyone should pay their share for the costs of this country. It should be divided up evenly, but I'm ok with it just being a flat % of income till we ban income taxes.
'' In 2007 (it's gotten worse since) the richest 1% of the American population owned 34.6% of the country's total wealth, and the next 19% owned 50.5%. Thus, the top 20% of Americans owned 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 80% of the population owned 15%.''
Your point, I believe, is that you object to the fact that 80% of the country still have that 15% of the wealth and should help pay the taxes of the 20% who have 85% of the wealth. That would allow the wealthy to upgrade to Rolls from Bentleys while it would only cost the 80% a few meals a week.
The reason must be that the 15% work harder in their air conditioned offices and mcmansions than the field hands living in the ghetto do.
I can't tell you how compelling an argument that is.
Still laugh at this bullshit assertion that government is either to distribute income or to control how wealth is distributed... how very totalitarian
All governments do it.
So you were wildly successful and now are apologetic and feel you should be forced to give up your assets for some past sins? Explain, cause I don't get this we should be a socialist society BS.
I have been wildly successful. Part of that is to live happily within my means. And I pay all of my bills including taxes.
If you have to have someone else pay your taxes in order to live within your means you are doing something wrong. Either raise your means or lower your life style.
Make up your mind. You believe people should be responsible for themselves and their families and live within their means, or we should redistribute income and assets from people who have been wildly successful like you to people who don't wish to be responsible or live within their means.
Which is it?
Anybody who knows me would say that this is about as opposite who I am as can be. Yet it's a necessary thing for conservatives to believe about non conservatives, in order to buy into the cult 's mythology.
If anyone asks ''what kind of person is most susceptible to conservatism?'', remember this.
So you were wildly successful and now are apologetic and feel you should be forced to give up your assets for some past sins? Explain, cause I don't get this we should be a socialist society BS.
I have been wildly successful. Part of that is to live happily within my means. And I pay all of my bills including taxes.
If you have to have someone else pay your taxes in order to live within your means you are doing something wrong. Either raise your means or lower your life style.
Still laugh at this bullshit assertion that government is either to distribute income or to control how wealth is distributed... how very totalitarian
All governments do it.
And ours is charged to do it where??
I think the fact that you can't see my point is a major clue in why you were so easily and thoroughly fooled by conservative media propaganda.
You believe that it's possible to pay people below poverty wages and then collect taxes from them.
Just because I don't agree with your point, does not mean that I don't understand it.
If minimum wage was moved up by 10x the poverty level would move up 10x. Poverty level does not mean what you think it means. 50% of the population will always earn more than the other half. 50% of the population will always work harder than the other half. 50% of the population will always be smarter than the other half. Why? Because if you cut an apple in half there are two sides. If everyone always gets an A no matter what they do, what's the point of having grades? What's the point of having money at all if it means nothing?
If you don't like the amount an employer offers you, become the employer.
Everyone should pay their share for the costs of this country. It should be divided up evenly, but I'm ok with it just being a flat % of income till we ban income taxes.
'' In 2007 (it's gotten worse since) the richest 1% of the American population owned 34.6% of the country's total wealth, and the next 19% owned 50.5%. Thus, the top 20% of Americans owned 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 80% of the population owned 15%.''.
[Your point, I believe, is that you object to the fact that 80% of the country still have that 15% of the wealth and should help pay the taxes of the 20% who have 85% of the wealth. That would allow the wealthy to upgrade to Rolls from Bentleys while it would only cost the 80% a few meals a week.
[The reason must be that the 15% work harder in their air conditioned offices and mcmansions than the field hands living in the ghetto do.
I can't tell you how compelling an argument that is.
So you were wildly successful and now are apologetic and feel you should be forced to give up your assets for some past sins? Explain, cause I don't get this we should be a socialist society BS.
I have been wildly successful. Part of that is to live happily within my means. And I pay all of my bills including taxes.
If you have to have someone else pay your taxes in order to live within your means you are doing something wrong. Either raise your means or lower your life style.
There's that liberal compassion we've all come to know. "If you can't pay your bills, then make more money." Why don't we tell poor people that? We could do away with Welfare and Social Security.
God, I love liberal solutions!
Just because I don't agree with your point, does not mean that I don't understand it.
If minimum wage was moved up by 10x the poverty level would move up 10x. Poverty level does not mean what you think it means. 50% of the population will always earn more than the other half. 50% of the population will always work harder than the other half. 50% of the population will always be smarter than the other half. Why? Because if you cut an apple in half there are two sides. If everyone always gets an A no matter what they do, what's the point of having grades? What's the point of having money at all if it means nothing?
If you don't like the amount an employer offers you, become the employer.
Everyone should pay their share for the costs of this country. It should be divided up evenly, but I'm ok with it just being a flat % of income till we ban income taxes.
'' In 2007 (it's gotten worse since) the richest 1% of the American population owned 34.6% of the country's total wealth, and the next 19% owned 50.5%. Thus, the top 20% of Americans owned 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 80% of the population owned 15%.''
Your point, I believe, is that you object to the fact that 80% of the country still have that 15% of the wealth and should help pay the taxes of the 20% who have 85% of the wealth. That would allow the wealthy to upgrade to Rolls from Bentleys while it would only cost the 80% a few meals a week.
The reason must be that the 15% work harder in their air conditioned offices and mcmansions than the field hands living in the ghetto do.
I can't tell you how compelling an argument that is.
>> Your point, I believe, is that you object to the fact that 80% of the country still have that 15% of the wealth and should help pay the taxes of the 20% who have 85% of the wealth. That would allow the wealthy to upgrade to Rolls from Bentleys while it would only cost the 80% a few meals a week.
Wrong. Unlike you, I do not object to rich people buying a Bentley. It's not my job to force people to work harder and smarter and try to earn more money, they have to get up off their asses all by themselves. Though the government should be doing it's job breaking up monopolies, foreign and domestic, it's not the job of government to redistribute income. Govco's job, as our employees, is to ensure equal opportunity, not equal outcomes.
>>> The reason must be that the 15% work harder in their air conditioned offices and mcmansions than the field hands living in the ghetto do.
Working hard and working smart are two different things. Even field hands have learned to ride along in air conditioned tractors.
PMZ does not want people to prosper on their own merits in this country. He wants to sit on his butt and collect as much money as possible. And if you don't like it you can leave. But he realizes that if he shoots for money from the 51% he'll loose the vote so he wants to make sure only the 49% get raped.
Exactly.
According to PMS anyone who works a second job and saves their money to get ahead is a greedy workaholic.
I have yet to get an answer from people like PMS as to what exactly is so abhorrent about working a second job in order to improve one's financial position.
I've done it many times. Thats my recommendation to conservatives who want someone else to pay their taxes. If you want more stuff than you can afford, raise your income.