POLL: Politics, Suicide & Depression in America

Are our political behaviors making us more & more miserable?

  • Yes. We're doing this to ourselves by choice

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • No. There is no connection here.

    Votes: 3 9.7%
  • This is a problem of the other side, not mine.

    Votes: 4 12.9%
  • Mango. I have no idea.

    Votes: 5 16.1%

  • Total voters
    31
I loved those days. Poor men could find work that would pay a living wage. Enough money to buy a home and raise a family. Women didn’t have to work. Every man could provide for his family. Poor people were like Archie bunker or my grandparents

My grandfather was able to start a restaurant with very little money to start.

They got good interest on their savings. Healthcare was affordable. Labor laws, social security, Medicare, pensions, union job protections and wages. Low cost of living. The rich paid their fair share.
That is ridiculous, your entitlement mentality makes you sound like a fucking pussy
It only cost $5k a year for college in the 1990s

Healthcare was affordable

My dad got a pension and social security and Medicare

Those were the days.
I could’ve went to college for free because I’m an American Indian but I chose not to.
Self-employment is a much better gig for me...

I have no right to healthcare for me and my family, but I do have a right to earn health care for me and my family.

I just soon not have stuff given to me for nothing, the collective never has my best interest in mind for all my families.

You definitely have entitlement mentality
That mentality created a middle class the world had never seen before.

The middle class owned michigan. Flint Saginaw and Detroit all boomed. Then republicans started sending jobs overseas. Said union wages were too expensive.

Today the middle class is still struggling. The economy is great for rich people but maga you have not. Not for them.

I’m doing great but I was in 2015 and 2016. Long before trump.
See that’s the problem for me I want nothing to do with that type of collective living. There’s no way I can benefit from it and my family certainly cannot...
I grew up on the Indian reservation, any type of collective, socialist, village living is repugnant to me...
I like social security and Medicare. A lot of people are gonna need that shit.

Boy has the middle class taken a step back. Cuts to social programs, cost of living goes up, no interest on savings, high cost of college. My way worked better than your way.

My brother got a masters at Michigan state university and he’s a vp of a Fortune 500. I don’t know if he would have been able to afford that today. Your way cuts off opportunity.
 
I think lack of economic opportunity has a lot to do with it.

Have you ever wondered what all the young black men in the nba and nfl would be doing right now if sports didn’t exist? Some of them would probably be criminals. Economic opportunity kept them out of trouble right?

Same when 35% of America’s workforce was unionized. Anybody could find a good paying job. Today anyone who doesn’t go to school or have connections is stuck in knowheresville and their being told it’s colored people and liberals fault
While it is a nice idea there is nothing to support it.
There are actual experiments done with numerous animals that support too many in one area.
The whole point of the post is we are trying to cram too many into areas and cities then people are comfortable with. Then you add in the technology that brings people more into contact with others. You look back in history people lived in small communities. If they could not get along they moved on. They could even move to a place out on their own. Now it is next to impossible.

There are plenty of options to make a living without paying for tons of college debt. Yes we do need a few burger flippers, hotel maids and other such jobs. If you look around you can find many jobs that pay well. The trucking industry is very short handed, the oil and gas industry is always looking for help. Construction is always available. Manufacturing is slowly coming back.

I don't know anyone that is blaming colored or liberals. I do believe that they question liberals as to the reasoning why they are wanting to allow more uneducated, illegal workers who are taking minimum wage jobs that are disappearing due to automation. They are also allowing them to work for less then minimum wage, which some are saying is not a living wage.
Don’t put illegals on us just because trump took on the issue to woo racist white voters. Your party is divided too. Bush and Reagan both passed or pushed for amnesty. And republicans refuse to address the real problem, illegal employers.

I can show you liberal op Eds from 2006 that explain how your minute men on the border were ignored during the bush years and work raids stopped. Now trump is playing the other side of the gop. The people who don’t like illegals here. Well guess what? Neither do we. You’re being duped. Republicans take a position and now we’re supposed to take the opposite? Not taking the bait. I agree. I don’t like illegal employers. They’re the ones drawing illegals here.
The real problem is diseased illegal aliens that have no right to be here
They're good enough to work at Trump golf courses.
Should have gone to Trump University to learn how to hire them.
Illegal aliens deserve to live in the shadows… We will never get rid of all of them so it’s best if they do live in the shadows
working directly for Eric Trump is hardly in the shadows.
 
That is ridiculous, your entitlement mentality makes you sound like a fucking pussy
It only cost $5k a year for college in the 1990s

Healthcare was affordable

My dad got a pension and social security and Medicare

Those were the days.
I could’ve went to college for free because I’m an American Indian but I chose not to.
Self-employment is a much better gig for me...

I have no right to healthcare for me and my family, but I do have a right to earn health care for me and my family.

I just soon not have stuff given to me for nothing, the collective never has my best interest in mind for all my families.

You definitely have entitlement mentality
That mentality created a middle class the world had never seen before.

The middle class owned michigan. Flint Saginaw and Detroit all boomed. Then republicans started sending jobs overseas. Said union wages were too expensive.

Today the middle class is still struggling. The economy is great for rich people but maga you have not. Not for them.

I’m doing great but I was in 2015 and 2016. Long before trump.
See that’s the problem for me I want nothing to do with that type of collective living. There’s no way I can benefit from it and my family certainly cannot...
I grew up on the Indian reservation, any type of collective, socialist, village living is repugnant to me...
I like social security and Medicare. A lot of people are gonna need that shit.

Boy has the middle class taken a step back. Cuts to social programs, cost of living goes up, no interest on savings, high cost of college. My way worked better than your way.

My brother got a masters at Michigan state university and he’s a vp of a Fortune 500. I don’t know if he would have been able to afford that today. Your way cuts off opportunity.
Lol
The collective benefits me in no way, and certainly does not benefit my family. Depending on the collective is no way to live for me… I’ll stick to self-employment
 
Link to news of this book burning?

Stop taking me so literally. There has book burning events at college campuses but probably not on a wide enough scale to worry about. The point is, is that the left has completely rejected the old way of doing things in favor of this new ideology that blames masculinity and "whiteness" for all of the "problems" in this decadent age of prosperity brought about by those old, dead white men.
Sorry but the old way where 99% of the ceos being white males is over. I know to you those were the good old days but we are evolving

They were the good old days for everyone.
I loved those days. Poor men could find work that would pay a living wage. Enough money to buy a home and raise a family. Women didn’t have to work. Every man could provide for his family. Poor people were like Archie bunker or my grandparents

My grandfather was able to start a restaurant with very little money to start.

They got good interest on their savings. Healthcare was affordable. Labor laws, social security, Medicare, pensions, union job protections and wages. Low cost of living. The rich paid their fair share.
That is ridiculous, your entitlement mentality makes you sound like a fucking pussy

And your constant anger and 1950's attitude makes you seem like an uneducated dinosaur.

'Fucking pussy'? Jeez...that went out about 20-30 years ago.
 
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Politics are a mirror of the people - they don't cause the people to feel certain ways (especially in democracies).

Politics has become more extreme because the wealth gap is exploding and 95% of the population have not a clue why they are being left behind, why they are accumulating so much debt yet don't seem to be any farther ahead.

I have said it before - it is the Central Bank (the Fed) and the federal government giving it the 'all clear' to manipulate the economy to the benefit of the wealthy (whether intentionally or not - probably both).

Ever since 2001 (and ESPECIALLY since 2008), the Fed has RUN the economy - specifically, the Equity markets. It is they who have caused the stock markets to explode. But not because of sound fundamentals. But because of stock buybacks (that's when corporations take out huge loans at tiny interest rates and use the money to buyback their own stock. This raises the price of their stock and helps the bottom line look better).
And when stock markets go up - usually it is the wealthy/upper middle classes who most benefit. The poor own zero stock and the middle classes precious little.
This has caused a ginormous growth in millionaires, the poor are growing in number too and the middle class are shrinking.

Look at food stamp usage:

Food-Stamps-Monthly.jpg


Sure, it's dropped since the end of the Great Recession. But it is still nowhere near where it was before the GR. Yet the stock markets have boomed in that time (though they have flattened out since the Fed started to back off on ZIRP and QE).

And look at the M2 Money Velocity:

fredgraph.png

Velocity of M2 Money Stock

This chart means that money is not changing hands...FAR less then at any time since at least the 1950's. Why? Because people are not buying things with existing income/savings..they are using new, cheap debt. This slows down the velocity.
And if you notice, usually when the velocity slows down, the economy slows with it.

So, the rich are getting MUCH richer, the economy is semi-stagnating (sub-3% REAL GDP growth) and the rest of the country are falling behind.

BTW - VERY few people are aware of all of this. The media almost NEVER talks about it...and neither do the politicians (Trump did during the campaign - somewhat. But as soon as got into office, he has not said a word about it). And it is - btw - going on around the world in most major economies....it is NOT limited to America.

The bottom line is people are falling farther into debt and are falling farther and farther behind the wealthy. And they don't know why and they are getting sick of it.
So, they are turning to extremes. The right is turning to the Trump extremism. And the left is turning towards socialism.

It is not a decay in society as a whole. It is simply the result of financial situations due to central bank/political elite financial manipulation that are hurting the masses...without their direct knowledge.

It will eventually all end (when the debt bubble pops). But that could take decades...so strap in for a wild, political ride in the meantime.
This is one way the rich have widened the gap between the rich and poor but not the only way

They hire illegals. Illegals flooded in and that floods the market with low wage workers. It kept wages down and the rich hire these illegals.

Tax breaks for the rich

Sending jobs overseas.

Breaking unions

Cuts to social security and Medicare and other social programs.

Buying from China

Yes - to a point. But most of that has been going on for decades, generations.

The Fed policy I mentioned above is a more recent phenomenon that has largely altered the economy as a whole and equity markets in particular.
 
Link to news of this book burning?

Stop taking me so literally. There has book burning events at college campuses but probably not on a wide enough scale to worry about. The point is, is that the left has completely rejected the old way of doing things in favor of this new ideology that blames masculinity and "whiteness" for all of the "problems" in this decadent age of prosperity brought about by those old, dead white men.
Sorry but the old way where 99% of the ceos being white males is over. I know to you those were the good old days but we are evolving

They were the good old days for everyone.
I loved those days. Poor men could find work that would pay a living wage. Enough money to buy a home and raise a family. Women didn’t have to work. Every man could provide for his family. Poor people were like Archie bunker or my grandparents

My grandfather was able to start a restaurant with very little money to start.

They got good interest on their savings. Healthcare was affordable. Labor laws, social security, Medicare, pensions, union job protections and wages. Low cost of living. The rich paid their fair share.
That is ridiculous, your entitlement mentality makes you sound like a fucking pussy


Entirely accurate.
 
Item One
Our suicide rates have increased to the point at which the CDC says they are actually affecting our life expectancy. Our usage of antidepressants continues to increase. Looking at the facts, it's not difficult to argue that we, as a society, are become more and more unhappy.

Item Two
More and more, Americans are walking around in a state of hypersensitivity, just waiting to be outraged or offended by something. When someone from the "other" tribe does or says something that we can attack, we jump right in with the group hysterics.

Theory
We're making ourselves more and more miserable by adhering ourselves to political ideologies, by refusing to even understand the opinions of those who dare to disagree with us, and by jumping on the tiniest opportunities as a reasonable excuse to attack the "other".

Please vote and comment. Thanks.

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U.S. Antidepressant Use Jumps 65 Percent in 15 Years
Suicides are at the highest rate in decades, CDC report shows
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TDS is caused by brainwashing via repeated messaging.
 
Politics are a mirror of the people - they don't cause the people to feel certain ways (especially in democracies).

Politics has become more extreme because the wealth gap is exploding and 95% of the population have not a clue why they are being left behind, why they are accumulating so much debt yet don't seem to be any farther ahead.

I have said it before - it is the Central Bank (the Fed) and the federal government giving it the 'all clear' to manipulate the economy to the benefit of the wealthy (whether intentionally or not - probably both).

Ever since 2001 (and ESPECIALLY since 2008), the Fed has RUN the economy - specifically, the Equity markets. It is they who have caused the stock markets to explode. But not because of sound fundamentals. But because of stock buybacks (that's when corporations take out huge loans at tiny interest rates and use the money to buyback their own stock. This raises the price of their stock and helps the bottom line look better).
And when stock markets go up - usually it is the wealthy/upper middle classes who most benefit. The poor own zero stock and the middle classes precious little.
This has caused a ginormous growth in millionaires, the poor are growing in number too and the middle class are shrinking.

Look at food stamp usage:

Food-Stamps-Monthly.jpg


Sure, it's dropped since the end of the Great Recession. But it is still nowhere near where it was before the GR. Yet the stock markets have boomed in that time (though they have flattened out since the Fed started to back off on ZIRP and QE).

And look at the M2 Money Velocity:

fredgraph.png

Velocity of M2 Money Stock

This chart means that money is not changing hands...FAR less then at any time since at least the 1950's. Why? Because people are not buying things with existing income/savings..they are using new, cheap debt. This slows down the velocity.
And if you notice, usually when the velocity slows down, the economy slows with it.

So, the rich are getting MUCH richer, the economy is semi-stagnating (sub-3% REAL GDP growth) and the rest of the country are falling behind.

BTW - VERY few people are aware of all of this. The media almost NEVER talks about it...and neither do the politicians (Trump did during the campaign - somewhat. But as soon as got into office, he has not said a word about it). And it is - btw - going on around the world in most major economies....it is NOT limited to America.

The bottom line is people are falling farther into debt and are falling farther and farther behind the wealthy. And they don't know why and they are getting sick of it.
So, they are turning to extremes. The right is turning to the Trump extremism. And the left is turning towards socialism.

It is not a decay in society as a whole. It is simply the result of financial situations due to central bank/political elite financial manipulation that are hurting the masses...without their direct knowledge.

It will eventually all end (when the debt bubble pops). But that could take decades...so strap in for a wild, political ride in the meantime.
This is one way the rich have widened the gap between the rich and poor but not the only way

They hire illegals. Illegals flooded in and that floods the market with low wage workers. It kept wages down and the rich hire these illegals.

Tax breaks for the rich

Sending jobs overseas.

Breaking unions

Cuts to social security and Medicare and other social programs.

Buying from China
You’re thinking is backwards, progressives like yourself want to control everybody they disagree with and expect everybody they disagree with the comply to your rule
I showed you 7 ways the rich have widened the gap between us and them.

Typical of you rustic to not give substance and just spew your partisan bs
What’s wrong with the gap between rich and poor? Most people get what they deserve
If you don’t know or care about the state of the middle class that’s cool. I just can’t go along. And there’s a lot more of us than you rich white men.

Always was. Whites have always been a small minority in the world.
 
Sorry but the old way where 99% of the ceos being white males is over. I know to you those were the good old days but we are evolving

They were the good old days for everyone.
I loved those days. Poor men could find work that would pay a living wage. Enough money to buy a home and raise a family. Women didn’t have to work. Every man could provide for his family. Poor people were like Archie bunker or my grandparents

My grandfather was able to start a restaurant with very little money to start.

They got good interest on their savings. Healthcare was affordable. Labor laws, social security, Medicare, pensions, union job protections and wages. Low cost of living. The rich paid their fair share.
That is ridiculous, your entitlement mentality makes you sound like a fucking pussy
It only cost $5k a year for college in the 1990s

Healthcare was affordable

My dad got a pension and social security and Medicare

Those were the days.
I could’ve went to college for free because I’m an American Indian but I chose not to.
Self-employment is a much better gig for me...

I have no right to healthcare for me and my family, but I do have a right to earn health care for me and my family.

I just soon not have stuff given to me for nothing, the collective never has my best interest in mind for me and my family.

You definitely have entitlement mentality

That’s because you are middle class. It is impossible to bribe people with their own money. The elites rob you to buy votes from the undrclsss.
 
I loved those days. Poor men could find work that would pay a living wage. Enough money to buy a home and raise a family. Women didn’t have to work. Every man could provide for his family. Poor people were like Archie bunker or my grandparents

My grandfather was able to start a restaurant with very little money to start.

They got good interest on their savings. Healthcare was affordable. Labor laws, social security, Medicare, pensions, union job protections and wages. Low cost of living. The rich paid their fair share.
That is ridiculous, your entitlement mentality makes you sound like a fucking pussy
It only cost $5k a year for college in the 1990s

Healthcare was affordable

My dad got a pension and social security and Medicare

Those were the days.
I could’ve went to college for free because I’m an American Indian but I chose not to.
Self-employment is a much better gig for me...

I have no right to healthcare for me and my family, but I do have a right to earn health care for me and my family.

I just soon not have stuff given to me for nothing, the collective never has my best interest in mind for all my families.

You definitely have entitlement mentality
That mentality created a middle class the world had never seen before.

The middle class owned michigan. Flint Saginaw and Detroit all boomed. Then republicans started sending jobs overseas. Said union wages were too expensive.

Today the middle class is still struggling. The economy is great for rich people but maga you have not. Not for them.

I’m doing great but I was in 2015 and 2016. Long before trump.
See that’s the problem for me I want nothing to do with that type of collective living. There’s no way I can benefit from it and my family certainly cannot...
I grew up on the Indian reservation, any type of collective, socialist, village living is repugnant to me...

The state of Indian reservations are a fine example of government paternalism.
 
Item One
Our suicide rates have increased to the point at which the CDC says they are actually affecting our life expectancy. Our usage of antidepressants continues to increase. Looking at the facts, it's not difficult to argue that we, as a society, are become more and more unhappy.

Item Two
More and more, Americans are walking around in a state of hypersensitivity, just waiting to be outraged or offended by something. When someone from the "other" tribe does or says something that we can attack, we jump right in with the group hysterics.

Theory
We're making ourselves more and more miserable by adhering ourselves to political ideologies, by refusing to even understand the opinions of those who dare to disagree with us, and by jumping on the tiniest opportunities as a reasonable excuse to attack the "other".

Please vote and comment. Thanks.

=============

U.S. Antidepressant Use Jumps 65 Percent in 15 Years
Suicides are at the highest rate in decades, CDC report shows
.

All these things are evidence that people in the US have it pretty good.

It seems people aren't worrying about important things like food, shelter and clothing and are fixated on manufacturing things to be upset about .

That is the classic symptom of too much time on their hands

 
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That is ridiculous, your entitlement mentality makes you sound like a fucking pussy
It only cost $5k a year for college in the 1990s

Healthcare was affordable

My dad got a pension and social security and Medicare

Those were the days.
I could’ve went to college for free because I’m an American Indian but I chose not to.
Self-employment is a much better gig for me...

I have no right to healthcare for me and my family, but I do have a right to earn health care for me and my family.

I just soon not have stuff given to me for nothing, the collective never has my best interest in mind for all my families.

You definitely have entitlement mentality
That mentality created a middle class the world had never seen before.

The middle class owned michigan. Flint Saginaw and Detroit all boomed. Then republicans started sending jobs overseas. Said union wages were too expensive.

Today the middle class is still struggling. The economy is great for rich people but maga you have not. Not for them.

I’m doing great but I was in 2015 and 2016. Long before trump.
See that’s the problem for me I want nothing to do with that type of collective living. There’s no way I can benefit from it and my family certainly cannot...
I grew up on the Indian reservation, any type of collective, socialist, village living is repugnant to me...
I like social security and Medicare. A lot of people are gonna need that shit.

Boy has the middle class taken a step back. Cuts to social programs, cost of living goes up, no interest on savings, high cost of college. My way worked better than your way.

My brother got a masters at Michigan state university and he’s a vp of a Fortune 500. I don’t know if he would have been able to afford that today. Your way cuts off opportunity.

you would rathe me pay for your brothers education than yourself....or god forbid himself.
 
Yupp. Not because partisans are meanies to each other and all the sanctimoneous Macs of the world have to cry about it on messageboards every..
fucking....
day

You could really use some counseling.



There seems to be an exhibition of anger here which is an example towards proving the OP's theory.








Theory
We're making ourselves more and more miserable by adhering ourselves to political ideologies, by refusing to even understand the opinions of those who dare to disagree with us, and by jumping on the tiniest opportunities as a reasonable excuse to attack the "other".
 
“Natalie said she began “thinking of suicide as an option” after her mother died suddenly and the stress of caring for her father, who had Alzheimer’s, while raising two teenagers on her own and working full-time became “oppressive. Each day it just seemed more impossible to keep doing what I was doing....”

Yeah...”you’ve come a long way baby”
Yupp. Not because partisans are meanies to each other and all the sanctimoneous Macs of the world have to cry about it on messageboards every..


fucking....



day
My goodness. This is a reasonable topic that reasonable adults can discuss.

You don't have to read it or post in it.

I think your behavior here says a lot about you, not those who are discussing this.
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You're not reasonable...you are a sanctimony troll. Every damn day you butthurt over how people disagree politically.

Suicide and over prescribing is a real issue, not one for a sanctimony troll to sprint to his internet over and consider a win for his confirmation bias, like a sick child.
And more of the same.

He doesn't want to just discuss the issue.

That in itself is interesting.
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My first post in this thread was succinct to the issue, you skipped its content and went straight for the sanctimony like ya always do ya weaselly little phony. Another day, another Mac whine thread on usmb. Rinse, repeat.

No, G.T. you came in here swinging at Mac with no intention of having a discussion.

You used to be such a laid back dude.
 
Yupp. Not because partisans are meanies to each other and all the sanctimoneous Macs of the world have to cry about it on messageboards every..


fucking....



day
My goodness. This is a reasonable topic that reasonable adults can discuss.

You don't have to read it or post in it.

I think your behavior here says a lot about you, not those who are discussing this.
.
You're not reasonable...you are a sanctimony troll. Every damn day you butthurt over how people disagree politically.

Suicide and over prescribing is a real issue, not one for a sanctimony troll to sprint to his internet over and consider a win for his confirmation bias, like a sick child.
And more of the same.

He doesn't want to just discuss the issue.

That in itself is interesting.
.
My first post in this thread was succinct to the issue, you skipped its content and went straight for the sanctimony like ya always do ya weaselly little phony. Another day, another Mac whine thread on usmb. Rinse, repeat.

No, G.T. you came in here swinging at Mac with no intention of having a discussion.

You used to be such a laid back dude.
Knowing Mac would give you more context. Hes phony. I dont and never did like phonies.
 
Suicide rates are probably increasing due to increasing dependence on psychoactive drugs in the place of good diet and exercise for many people.

Of fucking course, they have their place, but they are vastly over surprised.

The human condition is not that we are happy 24/7.

Social media is also not helping.

People get sad....go for a run, smoke a joint, have an orgasm, eat a cookie and take a nap...you’ll be fine.
Republicans said race relations got worse on Obama’s watch and suggested it was his fault

So this spike in overdoses, suicides and rampages must be trumps fault. He stokes the fire. He fans the flames.

Look in the mirror. Is you have a soul it will bother you.
 
Item One
Our suicide rates have increased to the point at which the CDC says they are actually affecting our life expectancy. Our usage of antidepressants continues to increase. Looking at the facts, it's not difficult to argue that we, as a society, are become more and more unhappy.

Item Two
More and more, Americans are walking around in a state of hypersensitivity, just waiting to be outraged or offended by something. When someone from the "other" tribe does or says something that we can attack, we jump right in with the group hysterics.

Theory
We're making ourselves more and more miserable by adhering ourselves to political ideologies, by refusing to even understand the opinions of those who dare to disagree with us, and by jumping on the tiniest opportunities as a reasonable excuse to attack the "other".

Please vote and comment. Thanks.

=============

U.S. Antidepressant Use Jumps 65 Percent in 15 Years
Suicides are at the highest rate in decades, CDC report shows
.

All these things are evidence that people in the US have it pretty good.

It seems people aren't worrying about important things like food, shelter and clothing and are fixated on manufacturing things to be upset about .

That is the classic symptom of too much time on their hands


If suicide and depression aren't important topics to you, great.

Some people are sociopaths.
.
 
Item One
Our suicide rates have increased to the point at which the CDC says they are actually affecting our life expectancy. Our usage of antidepressants continues to increase. Looking at the facts, it's not difficult to argue that we, as a society, are become more and more unhappy.

Item Two
More and more, Americans are walking around in a state of hypersensitivity, just waiting to be outraged or offended by something. When someone from the "other" tribe does or says something that we can attack, we jump right in with the group hysterics.

Theory
We're making ourselves more and more miserable by adhering ourselves to political ideologies, by refusing to even understand the opinions of those who dare to disagree with us, and by jumping on the tiniest opportunities as a reasonable excuse to attack the "other".

Please vote and comment. Thanks.

=============

U.S. Antidepressant Use Jumps 65 Percent in 15 Years
Suicides are at the highest rate in decades, CDC report shows
.

All these things are evidence that people in the US have it pretty good.

It seems people aren't worrying about important things like food, shelter and clothing and are fixated on manufacturing things to be upset about .

That is the classic symptom of too much time on their hands


If suicide and depression aren't important topics to you, great.

Some people are sociopaths.
.


Suicide is a choice why do you want to tell people what choices they can or can't make?
 

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