Poll: What should women do about transdudes in female sports?

What should women do about transdudes in female sports?

  • 1. Continue to compete, honoring transgenders.

  • 2. Don't show up at all.

  • 3. When the starting whistle blows, all the women just take a knee.


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20 years ago, only 35% supported gay marriage. Today that number is 67%.

What you state here is not supported by your graph. Recognition doesn't mean support. Also, question has changed over time, because left has changed the definition of the marriage.

The problem with Civil Unions is the same problem with THIS.

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It's a second class incarnation of a right.

It's not. Apples and oranges. There is no such thing as "gay marriage", regardless of changing of definition. Since "civil union" is not a marriage, there is no comparison.
 
For murdering the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings, absolutely.

If you had a vestige of a soul, a vestige of a conscience, or even a vestige of self-awareness, you would understand how truly bizarre it is that you think you have any high ground on which to stand, while taking the side of the lowest of murderers who murder the most innocent of victims

Fetuses aren't people, and the crazy notion that they might be is only a few decades old. Even your own cult doesn't share your crazy views on choice.

First of all, title IX doesn't "give scholarships", it prohibits discrimination based on sex.

Actually, it does EXACTLY that. Once you open the athletic programs, you have to also give out scholarships.

It was one of the things that burned me when I was at UIC. We had this athletics program, where the athletics department was paid for by Student Fees, and the Athletic Department even got to appoint a delegate to the Fee Committee. Now, nobody goes to UIC for the Athletics. It didn't have a football team and it's basketball team was a joke. And you really shouldn't name your athletic team the "Flames" when your campus is that close to Boys Town (little Chicago humor). But every year, we'd have these dumb as stumps mediocre athletes getting full rides while some of us were doing things like joining the National Guard and working minimum wage jobs to pay their way.

Just few posts earlier you said that you're "actually fine with them being equals in things that matter". Listen to yourself... , you're fine with girls being equal, except when it comes to scholarships for girls. Giving scholarships to dumb boys is fine, but if you're dumb girl, fuck you. According to you, sports are not important, and again according to you, especially female sports.

Actually, let's look at that. Scholarships for men's athletics make sense for SOME schools, like those in the Big Ten, where their Football and Basketball programs make the campus money. For the vast majority, not really. It's just kind of a vestige of an earlier time when only a small fraction of the population had access to college and athletics were seen as a sign of upper class "manliness". Then along comes Title IX. And suddenly, all these schools are mandated to have programs. You have things like varsity blues, where Felicity Huffman's daughter faked participation in a rowing team to get a scholarship her academics clearly didn't entitle her to.

Funny thing with insurance policies, and pretty much with everything in life is that you usually get what you paid for.
I'm pretty sure that if your insurance company concluded that "knee replacement surgery" is "elective" procedure, they based it on what is actually written in your insurance policy.

Then they should have explained that BEFORE they took my money. If you want to see one big reason why I switched the Democrats, it's shit like this. We spend more for health care than ANY other country in the world, and we get the worst results in the industrialized world, when people don't get treatments they pay for, but a piece of human excrement like Ed Hanaway gets a NINE FIGURE bonus when he retires.

I'm pretty sure that's not the case, but for the sake of argument... How different that is from telling kids that they're gonna end up in jail if they don't pay taxes, or if they say something government don't like, or if they murder someone?

Well, first, Satan doesn't exist. The government does. Not that the government is going to torture you for all eternity for saying something they don't like.

Your both sentences are misleading and based on false premises.

School is not about opinion. There is nothing contradictory in math and physic, or English, or biology, they're all based on proofs.
It's not the same reason. You're equating two different things. Unlike racist Democrats who refused to let black kids be educated with white kids, parent's today are rejecting Democrats push for teaching kids of certain age about sex.

Really? Hey, here's the thing. A lot of high school textbooks don't really cover evolution very well. You know why? Because in the Bible Belt, Darwin made Baby Jesus cry by telling us we evolved from apes. So evolution is downplayed or not mentioned at all.

You guys don't wan to teach kids about slavery or Jim Crow because that might offend white kids to know their ancestors did awful things to get that nice house in the suburbs.

So please, please, please don't tell me that schools are ONLY there to teach "proofs".
 
What you state here is not supported by your graph. Recognition doesn't mean support. Also, question has changed over time, because left has changed the definition of the marriage.

The definition of marriage has changed throughout history. Just ask Mormon Bob why his cult doesn't practice polygamy anymore.

It's not. Apples and oranges. There is no such thing as "gay marriage", regardless of changing of definition. Since "civil union" is not a marriage, there is no comparison.

That happens to be your homophobic opinion. Frankly, there are a lot of STRAIGHT people who probably shouldn't get married. Can't tell you how many weddings I've been at where I've said, "I'll give it a year" and was proven right.

I know gay couples who've been in loving relationships for decades. I know straight people who cheat, get divorced after a year, etc.

The fact is, "Civil Unions" aren't the same thing... which is what made it pretty much like a colored water fountain.
 
Fetuses aren't people, and the crazy notion that they might be is only a few decades old. Even your own cult doesn't share your crazy views on choice.

Tell us then, when exactly life begin?
If you can't answer that, tell us when exactly life ends?

Actually, it does EXACTLY that. Once you open the athletic programs, you have to also give out scholarships.

Your personal anecdotes are irrelevant. Post text of Title IX.

Actually, let's look at that. Scholarships for men's athletics make sense for SOME schools, like those in the Big Ten, where their Football and Basketball programs make the campus money. For the vast majority, not really. It's just kind of a vestige of an earlier time when only a small fraction of the population had access to college and athletics were seen as a sign of upper class "manliness". Then along comes Title IX. And suddenly, all these schools are mandated to have programs. You have things like varsity blues, where Felicity Huffman's daughter faked participation in a rowing team to get a scholarship her academics clearly didn't entitle her to.

Every time you begin sentence with your incel's trademark "actually", there is a definite lie in your sentence.
Schools are not mandated to have every specific program. Title IX ensure that if they do have program, it's not discriminatory against any sex.

Then they should have explained that BEFORE they took my money. If you want to see one big reason why I switched the Democrats, it's shit like this. We spend more for health care than ANY other country in the world, and we get the worst results in the industrialized world, when people don't get treatments they pay for, but a piece of human excrement like Ed Hanaway gets a NINE FIGURE bonus when he retires.

I'm pretty sure they did provide explanation with your policy. You didn't listen to them, or you didn't read the policy, which is it?
You being stupid is somehow their fault?

Well, first, Satan doesn't exist. The government does. Not that the government is going to torture you for all eternity for saying something they don't like.

I am not saying it does, but how do you know it doesn't?

Depends on the government. It starts with small things... it ends in prisons, concentration camps, etc. Tell people in Gulags that satan doesn't exist.

Really? Hey, here's the thing. A lot of high school textbooks don't really cover evolution very well. You know why? Because in the Bible Belt, Darwin made Baby Jesus cry by telling us we evolved from apes. So evolution is downplayed or not mentioned at all.

Is that from the fiction you write, or you just came up with that? How about you provide the sample of textbooks from "Bible belt"?

You guys don't wan to teach kids about slavery or Jim Crow because that might offend white kids to know their ancestors did awful things to get that nice house in the suburbs.

So please, please, please don't tell me that schools are ONLY there to teach "proofs".

Quite opposite. Kids should learn about all about slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynching laws, KKK, segregation, and common denominator for all of them - Democrats.
 
The definition of marriage has changed throughout history. Just ask Mormon Bob why his cult doesn't practice polygamy anymore.

First of, definitions don't really change. I'll explain that below, just for you.
Second, marriage as an institution has different meanings depending on who's defining it.

Marriage as a government institution is designed to incentivize childbirth and attempt to ensure that children (future citizens) are raised in most stable environment possible, that being a two parent, mother and father, household. This is because all studies of marriage and familial relationship through thousands of years of recorded human history prove said environment is the most nurturing and stable. As a government institution, gays have no claim to being recognized, nor is it unfairly discriminatory, since it seeks to create an outcome which gays simply cannot provide.

Marriage as a religious institution is defined by the parameters of that religion. Christians doctrine, for example, says gays cannot marry. Thus, they cannot, when considering marriage as a religious institution. This applies to any religion that does or does not allow "gay marriage".

Marriage as a social institution merely proclaims mutual love between to people. This is unregulated and unaffected by legal institution. Anyone can say they're married to anyone as long as the other party is consenting. Essentially, "gay marriage" seeks to turn the institution into a purely social union, since government subsidized gay marriage is a tax drain. This will have cultural and societal implications once marriage is devalued, which ultimately is the leftist intention.

Regarding marriage itself, the institution is not a human right. Nor is it definitionally an all-inclusive bastion of equality. See above for it's definitions. Equality of race, an equally incorrect concept, does not imply that a Caucasoid could claim to be a Cherokee to reap the benefits of assistance programs for Cherokee groups. Nor is marriage discrimination. The creation of a definition for word in no way intends persecution of things to which the word does not apply. The slippery slope fallacy is often brought up, by gays, as a means by which to discredit the belief that "normalizing" homosexual relationships will lead to the "normalization" of other universally incorrect behaviors. Those who oppose "gay marriage" are often called 'bigots' (without regard for the definition of the word), but those who oppose polygamy, incest, and pedophilia (even ephebophilia) are well within their rights to do so. Those who support those things are "crazy" and even 'mentally ill", just as gays were until a vote in 70's ignored the science of their affliction and removed them from DSM. But if we are allowing "gay marriage" to be seen as "normal", what right do gays have to restrict polygamists, incestuals, and pedophiles from receiving the same "equality"?

I know that every post that consist of more than two sentences for mentally challenged person are "word salad". I don't expect from you to understand, or to agree, because you're not capable of it, but I know that everything above is correct. Marriage definition never changed, but the lunatic perception of it surely did.

That happens to be your homophobic opinion. Frankly, there are a lot of STRAIGHT people who probably shouldn't get married. Can't tell you how many weddings I've been at where I've said, "I'll give it a year" and was proven right.

Your personal anecdotes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I know gay couples who've been in loving relationships for decades. I know straight people who cheat, get divorced after a year, etc.

The fact is, "Civil Unions" aren't the same thing... which is what made it pretty much like a colored water fountain.

Apparently, you don't know much, since statistically more than 50% of gays cheat on their partners. Again, what you think you know has no value to this discussion.
 
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For murdering the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings, absolutely.

If you had a vestige of a soul, a vestige of a conscience, or even a vestige of self-awareness, you would understand how truly bizarre it is that you think you have any high ground on which to stand, while taking the side of the lowest of murderers who murder the most innocent of victims

Explaining someone who has no morality, or conscience, or self-awareness that he has no high ground on which to stand doesn't make sense. In fact, I don't think he can understand what those things actually are. If they're able to kill "just about to be born" babies, what do you think they would do to you if they get the chance?
 
What you state here is not supported by your graph. Recognition doesn't mean support. Also, question has changed over time, because left has changed the definition of the marriage.

Actually the government did that, I don't think the left had anything to do with it.

It's not. Apples and oranges. There is no such thing as "gay marriage", regardless of changing of definition. Since "civil union" is not a marriage, there is no comparison.
lol

I vastly prefer gays (and straights) in committed monogamous relationships.

As distinct from the alternative.
 
Tell us then, when exactly life begin?
If you can't answer that, tell us when exactly life ends?

Life began 4 billion years ago and is an ongoing process. If you hadn't been learning about talking snakes, you'd have known that.

Schools are not mandated to have every specific program. Title IX ensure that if they do have program, it's not discriminatory against any sex.

Which again, why do they have them at all? Why do colleges still work on this 19th century model? Colleges should be there for one thing only, to prepare young people for the working world. You wingnuts scream incessantly about non-existent Lesbian Basket Weaving majors, but you think it's fine to advance a dumb-as-a-stump jock through a four year program.

I'm pretty sure they did provide explanation with your policy. You didn't listen to them, or you didn't read the policy, which is it?
You being stupid is somehow their fault?

Actually, eventually, they paid for it, because they didn't have a leg to stand on (pun intended), but not before they dragged me through dozens of unnecessary tests and therapies. After they paid, then I was pretty much aced out of a job through a reorganization. My lawyer said I had a great case for age and medical discrimination.

I am not saying it does, but how do you know it doesn't?
Depends on the government. It starts with small things... it ends in prisons, concentration camps, etc. Tell people in Gulags that satan doesn't exist.

Don't blame "Satan" for the evil that men do. Or God for that matter.

Here's the big problem with blaming "government" for concentration camps or Gulags. The people who put those governments in power were completely on board with it. Most Germans REALLY HATED the Jews. Understandable, for 500 years, the Catholic and Lutheran churches had been telling them that the Jews killed their God-man. Every Sunday, they were reliving the Torture Porn of the Christ. Combine that with the role they played in bringing down the Kaiser and losing the first world war, Hitler had no problem getting people on board. Same with the Soviet Gulags... the starving peasents of Russia had lived for hundreds of years under the heel of the landowners. Are you really surprised they turned on them.

Human history is a long history of us treating each other badly...probably from when the first caveman hit another over the head with a rock to get a piece of meat or a female. God and Government just become excuses.

Is that from the fiction you write, or you just came up with that? How about you provide the sample of textbooks from "Bible belt"?

I don't do links, because you don't read them, or take something out of context.


Because Texas public schools represent such a large market for textbook publishers, the state has an outsized influence on what is taught in the rest of the country.

Science curricula in particular have become a source of tension over the past 30 years amid moves to downplay the teaching of evolution or to include biblically inspired creationism or "intelligent design."

Critics have been concerned that a small number of religious or political activists can dominate the process of approving texts, and the Board of Education's move appears to try to tamp that down.



Quite opposite. Kids should learn about all about slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynching laws, KKK, segregation, and common denominator for all of them - Democrats.
Yet, it's republicans like DeSantis who don't want kids taught that. The people didn't change, they just switched parties.
 
Tossing another word salad.

First of, definitions don't really change. I'll explain that below, just for you.
Second, marriage as an institution has different meanings depending on who's defining it.

Marriage as a government institution is designed to incentivize childbirth and attempt to ensure that children (future citizens) are raised in most stable environment possible, that being a two parent, mother and father, household. This is because all studies of marriage and familial relationship through thousands of years of recorded human history prove said environment is the most nurturing and stable. As a government institution, gays have no claim to being recognized, nor is it unfairly discriminatory, since it seeks to create an outcome which gays simply cannot provide.

Except the institution of marriage HAS changed a lot from a government point of view. For most of history, and still the case in some parts of the world, marriage just sees the woman as property with less rights than the man. For instance, until very recently, you could not charge a man with rape for forcing sex on his wife. These laws remained on the books until 1975, and the last state to criminalize marital rape was in 1993.


Most states didn't allow "no fault divorce" until fairly recently.


Oh, yeah, and until fairly recently, in many states, it was illegal to marry someone of a different race! Up until SCOTUS struck those laws down in Loving v. Virginia.


The government definition of marriage has changed, mostly to the benefit of women, and this is a good thing.

Marriage as a religious institution is defined by the parameters of that religion. Christians doctrine, for example, says gays cannot marry. Thus, they cannot, when considering marriage as a religious institution. This applies to any religion that does or does not allow "gay marriage".

Except there are Christian denominations that allow for gay marriage. And if the Government promised to take away the tax exempt status of every homophobic Church, you'd be AMAZED how quickly they'd all have a "Come to Jesus" moment about gays.

Kind of like how the Mormons finally let black people become full members after Jimmy Carter threatened to yank their tax exemption. The Mormon Prophet had him a conversation with God and suddenly, blacks were okay. Why God didn't say this to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young a century earlier is a bit of a mystery. I guess he was busy.

Marriage as a social institution merely proclaims mutual love between to people. This is unregulated and unaffected by legal institution. Anyone can say they're married to anyone as long as the other party is consenting. Essentially, "gay marriage" seeks to turn the institution into a purely social union, since government subsidized gay marriage is a tax drain. This will have cultural and societal implications once marriage is devalued, which ultimately is the leftist intention.

Yes, it's all an evil conspiracy... muh hahahahahaha.... Do you people even hear yourselves?
Not sure how gay marriage is a "tax drain", exactly, given married couples pay MORE in taxes than single people. And gays usually can't offset that by having kids unless turkey basters are involved.



Regarding marriage itself, the institution is not a human right. Nor is it definitionally an all-inclusive bastion of equality. See above for it's definitions. Equality of race, an equally incorrect concept, does not imply that a Caucasoid could claim to be a Cherokee to reap the benefits of assistance programs for Cherokee groups. Nor is marriage discrimination. The creation of a definition for word in no way intends persecution of things to which the word does not apply.

Except as stated above, until fairly recently, it was illegal to marry outside your race, until SCOTUS found the being to marry the person you wanted was a right. Loving and Obergefell just reaffirmed those rights.

he slippery slope fallacy is often brought up, by gays, as a means by which to discredit the belief that "normalizing" homosexual relationships will lead to the "normalization" of other universally incorrect behaviors. Those who oppose "gay marriage" are often called 'bigots' (without regard for the definition of the word), but those who oppose polygamy, incest, and pedophilia (even ephebophilia) are well within their rights to do so.

Those who support those things are "crazy" and even 'mentally ill", just as gays were until a vote in 70's ignored the science of their affliction and removed them from DSM. But if we are allowing "gay marriage" to be seen as "normal", what right do gays have to restrict polygamists, incestuals, and pedophiles from receiving the same "equality"?


Now, I do find it funny that whenever you guys bring up why gay marriage is bad, and you can't really justify it beyond the "I think it's icky" stage, you have to throw everything else against the wall.

Let's review.

I personally don't have a problem with Polygamy. If everyone involved is a consenting adult.
Incest is illegal because there's scientific proof that inbreeding is bad. (If you don't want to read scientific journals, just drive through a red state!)
Pedophilia is illegal because children can't consent.

Now, as much as you claim these things are bad (and they are), there are states in this union where you can marry a first cousin, or a child as young as 14.
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Apparently, you don't know much, since statistically more than 50% of gays cheat on their partners. Again, what you think you know has no value to this discussion.

and so do 25% of straight couples, with the establishment of marriage being around hundreds of years.
 
Life began 4 billion years ago and is an ongoing process. If you hadn't been learning about talking snakes, you'd have known that.

Every time you've been asked specific question, you resort to idiocies.

Which again, why do they have them at all? Why do colleges still work on this 19th century model? Colleges should be there for one thing only, to prepare young people for the working world. You wingnuts scream incessantly about non-existent Lesbian Basket Weaving majors, but you think it's fine to advance a dumb-as-a-stump jock through a four year program.

Women studies, transgender poetry, liberal arts, and sociology classes are going to prepare them for the working world.

Actually, eventually, they paid for it, because they didn't have a leg to stand on (pun intended), but not before they dragged me through dozens of unnecessary tests and therapies. After they paid, then I was pretty much aced out of a job through a reorganization. My lawyer said I had a great case for age and medical discrimination.

"actually"

There it is, magic leftist word. All you said is exactly what "elective" part of the policy means.

Don't blame "Satan" for the evil that men do. Or God for that matter.

Here's the big problem with blaming "government" for concentration camps or Gulags. The people who put those governments in power were completely on board with it. Most Germans REALLY HATED the Jews. Understandable, for 500 years, the Catholic and Lutheran churches had been telling them that the Jews killed their God-man. Every Sunday, they were reliving the Torture Porn of the Christ. Combine that with the role they played in bringing down the Kaiser and losing the first world war, Hitler had no problem getting people on board. Same with the Soviet Gulags... the starving peasents of Russia had lived for hundreds of years under the heel of the landowners. Are you really surprised they turned on them.

Nobody elected socialists. They all got in power with force and thru the armed revolution.


I don't do links, because you don't read them, or take something out of context.


You don't do links because they usually don't support what your claim is. Just like your link to NPR that is misinterpreting the SD Bill. Just like they were misinterpreting the "Don't say gay Bill" from Florida.

Yet, it's republicans like DeSantis who don't want kids taught that. The people didn't change, they just switched parties.

DeSantis don't want kids (kindergarteners to third grade) to be taught what exactly? Say it, limp wrist.
 
Tossing another word salad.

Of course it is, since you're not able to comprehend anything longer than two sentences. Just like in my previous post, I provided all the pieces necessary to make a point. Since you're incapable to get to conclusion, you have to chop it off into pieces to make own irrational conclusions. And as usual, you missed it completely, because you're a retard.

Pedophilia is illegal because children can't consent.

For example, this part. California leftists just made pedophilia legal, by allowing consent if there is less then 10 years in age between involved. Slippery slope at it's best.
What used to be a statutory rape, even with consent, now is perfectly OK for leftists that 24 yo fucks 14 yo. But didn't you just said that children can't consent?
 
Women studies, transgender poetry, liberal arts, and sociology classes are going to prepare them for the working world.


But running very fast for a little plastic trophy does?

Actually, (Ooooh, I know you hate that word, for some reason), nobody is majoring in those things. Here's a list of the top majors.


Nobody elected socialists. They all got in power with force and thru the armed revolution.
Right... you keep telling yourself that.


You don't do links because they usually don't support what your claim is. Just like your link to NPR that is misinterpreting the SD Bill. Just like they were misinterpreting the "Don't say gay Bill" from Florida.

Actually, the fact you can't understand the implications of the bigot bills doesn't make them anything less.

DeSantis don't want kids (kindergarteners to third grade) to be taught what exactly?

Did you read the anti-woke bill? It allows the Karens to go complain if they little Bubba heard anything that made him feel bad about being white.
 
Of course it is, since you're not able to comprehend anything longer than two sentences. Just like in my previous post, I provided all the pieces necessary to make a point. Since you're incapable to get to conclusion, you have to chop it off into pieces to make own irrational conclusions. And as usual, you missed it completely, because you're a retard.

I pretty much refuted your points... pretty fucking effectively, which is why you can't respond to each rebuttal.

For example, this part. California leftists just made pedophilia legal, by allowing consent if there is less then 10 years in age between involved. Slippery slope at it's best.
What used to be a statutory rape, even with consent, now is perfectly OK for leftists that 24 yo fucks 14 yo. But didn't you just said that children can't consent?

Actually, that's always been kind of a common practice... known as the "Romeo and Juliet" laws.

The only question is, where do you draw the line. I personally think a ten year gap is too much.
 
Hey Bob Blaylock, since you posted View attachment 635781 it would be nice if you explain what exactly are you disagreeing with.

Not that I'd feel a need to explain my reactions, but it would have helped if you'd linked to the post to which I disagreed.

I found it, I think, and my “Disagree” reaction to it appears to have been in error.
 
Demand that they cut their penises off and be on strong hrt...Every transfemale should have to test below female levels.

Doesn't solve the problem. Anyone who has gone through puberty as a male is going to have a male bone structure, a male muscle structure, a male heart, male lungs, and so on, that will continue to give him a significant physical advantage over women even if he is completely emasculated and put on female hormones.
 
But running very fast for a little plastic trophy does?

Actually, (Ooooh, I know you hate that word, for some reason), nobody is majoring in those things. Here's a list of the top majors.


Whenever you say "actually" you're preparing the ground for your lie, in this case the lie would be "nobody is majoring in those things".

There are majors in women studies, and liberal arts, and sociology. They're not in "most popular" majors, but they're there. Failes again.

Right... you keep telling yourself that.

Name any country where communists/socialists didn't get in power without spilling blood.

Actually, the fact you can't understand the implications of the bigot bills doesn't make them anything less.

Did you read the anti-woke bill? It allows the Karens to go complain if they little Bubba heard anything that made him feel bad about being white.

I did, have you? Your support of kids being groomed by the teachers says a lot about where your sexual preference is. You expose it in pretty much every post you write here.
 

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