Poll: What should women do about transdudes in female sports?

[Ray From Cleveland]

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This is Dennis Avner, the Cat Man. He was transgender and transspecies. He believed himself to be a female tiger. So he has all the surgeries he wanted. He had his teeth filed into fangs, his lips, nose, and ears surgically altered, his body tattoo'd, got contacts, and purchased and animatronic tail, and what ended up happening at the end of his transformation? The same thing that happens to most trannies, he killed himself. The interesting thing about Dennis is that the same "community" that was questioning his well being for being a tiger, never questioned his well being of being a female. Oh irony.

Gender Identity Disorder is similar to Body Integrity Identity Disorder, wherein someone believes a part of their body is foreign to them, and if they just cut it off, they think their life will improve. Fittingly, there's a lot of overlap between the two conditions. It's also similar to people addicted to plastic surgery. Women getting breast reductions, and then implants, and then smaller implants, then larger. Liposuction, nose jobs, botox, and on and on, it never ends. They end up looking freakish and malformed and are never able to fix what they perceive is wrong with them.

Trannies also have high levels of overlap with autism and mental retardation as well. A notable anecdote can be found in "I think we're alone now", a documentary about the stalkers of some pop singer named Tiffany. The second stalker followed is a sad case of a man who lived his whole life normally, he was straight, happy, and very intelligent, and then he suffered a traumatic brain injury. When he woke up his speech was slower, and he couldn't process things as quickly. He was told that he might be gay, and suddenly he start feeling he was gay, and not long after that he decided he was a woman.

And that's the problem. In the 70's there was a food poisoning problem. People were sabotaging food because one person did it, and copycat crimes followed. It's why we have all kinds of protective packaging today.

We have a handful of people like you posted. That's not the problem, the real problem are the copycats; children who learn about this crap and thinking it's normal and optional to choose your gender, when in reality, most are just going through a phase that we all go through growing up.

About 95% of the people won't be harmed by this, but it's the other 5% of copycats that we need to worry about; people with such weak minds they can be swayed by just about anything. It's much more pervasive with children since again, they are going through various phases on their way to adulthood. That's why we sensible adults need to protect them. It's our job as fellow human beings.

 

[JoeB131]

It's interesting way to quote my words, by cutting off the point I made

Your word salads are chore to get through... the key to effective writing. Write as though you are being paid by the point and penalized by the word.

Given the propaganda and lies you're spewing here, and your attacks on women, on the institution of marriage, and every other leftist issue, you fit profile of an incel perfectly.

Most actual incels are RIGHT WING. They are terribly upset that feminism has made women equal. I'm fine with a woman who is my equal, professionally. Marriage, on the other hand, is an obsolete, patriarchal institution.

Now, when I was younger and more right wing, I bought into the propaganda that we didn't need an ERA because it would make women eligible for the draft and eliminate bathrooms. Except those things largely have happened anyway. (No, we don't have a draft, but women are in all jobs men do in the service now), and women STILL don't have the protections of an equal rights amendment.

I couldn't care less what you think of me, but definitely, I am a nice guy to people that earned it, and deserve it.

Ah, the cry of the true incel, "I'm an nice guy".

Of course, kids emulate everything that is presented to them. When you tell kids in school that they're in the wrong body, and therefore "something is wrong with them", and that wrong can be fixed with puberty blockers, hormones, and surgery, you'd think they wouldn't emulate that?

No, I really don't. Kids are FAR more susceptible to peer pressure than they are to influence by their teachers. Any kid who comes out as trans or gay is going to be mocked by the other kids far more than they are going to be praised by teachers. So if any kid is so far along that a teacher MIGHT recommend them for therapy (much less hormones or surgery, which minors can almost never get), then it should be pretty far along.

Let's magnify it even further. Suppose you're surrounded by a doctors, pharma, and media telling you this is the right decision for you, that you'll be better and should be celebrated for it, and you get into a community of other people all going thru the same thing, and they're all supportive, but aggressive and irrational, and then once you reach the end of your transition you feel it was a mistake, and suddenly all those family members and counselors and members of your "community" who supported you, suddenly turn their backs on you.

Wow, that's right, it's a big fucking conspiracy to do... um... what, exactly? If it was so trendy and there was such a big conspiracy to do so, Trans people would be more than 0.3% of the population.

Again, there are FAR more pressures against coming out than there are for coming out.

 

[JoeB131]

Gender Identity Disorder is similar to Body Integrity Identity Disorder, wherein someone believes a part of their body is foreign to them, and if they just cut it off, they think their life will improve. Fittingly, there's a lot of overlap between the two conditions. It's also similar to people addicted to plastic surgery. Women getting breast reductions, and then implants, and then smaller implants, then larger. Liposuction, nose jobs, botox, and on and on, it never ends. They end up looking freakish and malformed and are never able to fix what they perceive is wrong with them.

But here's the thing. We don't condemn people who get plastic surgery, do we?

We don't require ANYWHERE near the level of psychological screening for people who get plastic surgery than we do for gender re-assignment surgery.

The fact is we have nearly a million transsexuals in this country, but less than 11,000 of them a year get approved for surgery.

While plastic surgeries have increased from 1.6 million a year in 1997 to 5.0 million a year in 2020.

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And some of them DO indicate more serious psychological disorders. My personal favorite is double blepharoplasties, where Asian people (mostly women) get their eyelids cut on so they look less Asian. Now, where would they get an idea like that? Get the eyes rounded, get bigger breasts, dye your hair, and you look more like a white woman, and most of you are fine with it.

 

[JoeB131]

I ask these people all the time: what if you went to a friends house, knocked on the door, and instead of your friend answering, you hear scratching on the door instead? When you walk inside, your friend is on all fours barking at you.

Would the humane thing to do is teach him tricks, give him treats, let him go into the backyard naked so he can lift his leg to piss on a tree? Of course not. You'd get that person some professional help if you were a true friend.

Naw, we help him apply for a disability so he can get a fat government check like the rest of the malingerers.

 

[JoeB131]

Welfare Ray, strikes again..

Their mindset is they can force people to accept them.

It's the same with gay marriage. They had just about as many rights as married people in California, but it was the gays in California that complained the most. It had nothing to do with government benefits or rights, it's the concept they can force acceptance of their lifestyle. The Supreme Court was wrong on their decision. People today don't accept gay marriage anymore than they did 20 years ago. We simply don't pay attention to it.

Actually, you'd be wrong on all points, Welfare Ray.

20 years ago, only 35% supported gay marriage. Today that number is 67%.

The problem with Civil Unions is the same problem with THIS.

It's a second class incarnation of a right.

It's like I said earlier on, a conservative sees a trans person and understands it's the mind that needs to be addressed. A liberal sees a trans person and thinks the mind is okay, it's the body that needs to be changed. God screwed up by putting a woman in a mans body. So they foster this idea of a mentally ill man having surgery that will disable him from natural sex for the rest of his life. It's only then he realizes what we conservatives have been saying all along, that it's impossible to change your gender, and then he offs himself.

Except most trans people don't kill themselves. We have a million trans people in this country, and we only have 45,000 suicides, most of which have NOTHING to do with being trans. Trans people kill themselves because they get tired of dealing with bigots like you.

I guess there is nothing we can do to stop mentally ill adults from harming themselves, but what we can stop is indoctrination of our children so they don't.

Nobody is indoctrinating kids. Except maybe the churches. Here's a crazy idea. Let's get the churches to stop indoctrinating kids. Nobody admitted to a church until the age of 18. No teaching them that there is a magic fairy in the sky and they will get to see Nana and all their childhood dogs in the afterlife.

 

[Ame®icano]

Your word salads are chore to get through... the key to effective writing. Write as though you are being paid by the point and penalized by the word.

Said that guy who has six times more posts than me...

Most actual incels are RIGHT WING. They are terribly upset that feminism has made women equal. I'm fine with a woman who is my equal, professionally. Marriage, on the other hand, is an obsolete, patriarchal institution.

Yep, you're fine when women are your equal, professionally. But when it comes to sports, you want men to wear a dress and compete against them.

Now, when I was younger and more right wing, I bought into the propaganda that we didn't need an ERA because it would make women eligible for the draft and eliminate bathrooms. Except those things largely have happened anyway. (No, we don't have a draft, but women are in all jobs men do in the service now), and women STILL don't have the protections of an equal rights amendment.

You were never "right wing", just little less left than you are now.
Just like Nazis, who were leftists, just little less leftist than communists.

Ah, the cry of the true incel, "I'm an nice guy".

Ohhh, how original. Did you eat your frosted cornflakes today?

No, I really don't. Kids are FAR more susceptible to peer pressure than they are to influence by their teachers. Any kid who comes out as trans or gay is going to be mocked by the other kids far more than they are going to be praised by teachers. So if any kid is so far along that a teacher MIGHT recommend them for therapy (much less hormones or surgery, which minors can almost never get), then it should be pretty far along.

You know, teacher's job is not to recommend therapy for kids.
Is that what happened to you in school? Were you been bullied for playing with dolls and nobody liked you? It makes sense now.

Wow, that's right, it's a big fucking conspiracy to do... um... what, exactly? If it was so trendy and there was such a big conspiracy to do so, Trans people would be more than 0.3% of the population.

Again, there are FAR more pressures against coming out than there are for coming out.

So you desperately wanted to put on a dress and go to girls restroom, but you were afraid of being bullied. Is that why you didn't come out?

 

[JoeB131]

Yep, you're fine when women are your equal, professionally. But when it comes to sports, you want men to wear a dress and compete against them.

Yup, I'm actually fine with them being equals in things that matter.

Sports don't matter. Again- take away those big old bags of Title IX money, no one would care.

You were never "right wing", just little less left than you are now.

Nope. Voted for Reagan and Bush through the 80's. Then as I got older, I realized two things.

1) I don't make enough money for the Republicans to care about me, and neither do you.
2) In order to get people to vote against their own economic interests, the GOP have let the crazies take over the party... the religious zealots, the libertarian children, the Gun Crazies

This all became crystal clear to me when an ex-boss decided I ran up too many medical bills, and his goal was to get me off the company insurance plan, one way or the other. When I protested, he remarked, "This is why I'm glad I don't have to deal with a union."

You know, teacher's job is not to recommend therapy for kids.
Is that what happened to you in school? Were you been bullied for playing with dolls and nobody liked you? It makes sense now.

Naw, what happened to me is I got stuck in with Catholic nutbags... leaving me with a permanent hatred of religion. This is why I support LGBTQ+ community... not because my sex life isn't anything but the most vanilla thing you can imagine, but because their acceptance sticks a big old stick in the eye of the Fundies, Catholics and Mormons. Reduce their entire argument to "God Says It's Bad", and you realize how silly they look.

 

[Ame®icano]

Yup, I'm actually fine with them being equals in things that matter.

Sports don't matter. Again- take away those big old bags of Title IX money, no one would care.

Your reply has nothing to do with my post. You keep saying you see "them" as equal, but only when it doesn't effects you.
You want man to compete against women, but you reject women having say about it, because you just want them to shut up and do what you want. How's that equal?

Sports don't matter to you. You'll rather read manga while jacking off in you mom's basement, and be mad at that high school girl you really liked fucked some Chad and not you. You can't forgive that she let him in her restroom, and you can't go in there even with a dress and lipstick on.

Nope. Voted for Reagan and Bush through the 80's. Then as I got older, I realized two things.

1) I don't make enough money for the Republicans to care about me, and neither do you.
2) In order to get people to vote against their own economic interests, the GOP have let the crazies take over the party... the religious zealots, the libertarian children, the Gun Crazies

This all became crystal clear to me when an ex-boss decided I ran up too many medical bills, and his goal was to get me off the company insurance plan, one way or the other. When I protested, he remarked, "This is why I'm glad I don't have to deal with a union."

Boo-hoo, your boss didn't want to pay for your expensive HRT and implants, you protested so he fired you. You tell everyone you quit because he's bigot, and you can't work for people that don't agree with your poor life choices, but in reality, he fired you because you're snowflake, you're easily triggered, you're always upset about something and ruin everyone's productivity, you can't handle any kind of critique, you get offended, and as a result you never get better at your job, you know "everything" better than he does, including running his business, you always feel "victimized" and nothing you did wrong was never your fault, you're humorless and not fun to work with, and as a result of that, you turned into office "snitch" who's running to HR whenever you get "offended".

Naw, what happened to me is I got stuck in with Catholic nutbags... leaving me with a permanent hatred of religion. This is why I support LGBTQ+ community... not because my sex life isn't anything but the most vanilla thing you can imagine, but because their acceptance sticks a big old stick in the eye of the Fundies, Catholics and Mormons. Reduce their entire argument to "God Says It's Bad", and you realize how silly they look.

Typical leftist narrative, and it's interesting, you always find yourself in "stuck" situations where everyone is wrong, and only you are right. I am not religious neither, but I don't hate people who are. I don't have to accept their way of life, as long it's not effecting mine and I use the same approach with everyone else. You see, I don't hate you for being a socialist faggot, as long you don't push your socialism, or your faggotry on me or my family. And when you do, I don't care if I hurt your feelings, or if I hurt you physically, I will push back.

 

[Ame®icano]

Nobody is indoctrinating kids. Except maybe the churches. Here's a crazy idea. Let's get the churches to stop indoctrinating kids. Nobody admitted to a church until the age of 18. No teaching them that there is a magic fairy in the sky and they will get to see Nana and all their childhood dogs in the afterlife.

What you're essentially saying, parents cannot indoctrinate their kids with what you don't approve, but it's OK to teach them, or indoctrinate them with things you approve. In one of the previous posts you claimed that "kids don't "emulate" faggotry when they see it", so what makes you think they would emulate religion? Oh, they will?

If parents wants to raise their kids to be religious, that is none of your business. It's their choice, it's their kids, their time, and their money. You want to tell parents they're wrong and you want to educate someone else kids the way it suits you, but you want to do it on their expense?

What's most ironical, you hate religion, and religious people for believing in god, while you're preaching socialism, and praying to government to resolve all your problems by punishing everyone who think different than you. Who do you think is real religious nutcase?

 

[JoeB131]

Your reply has nothing to do with my post. You keep saying you see "them" as equal, but only when it doesn't effects you.
You want man to compete against women, but you reject women having say about it, because you just want them to shut up and do what you want. How's that equal?

Because the whole thing, as I have said is a fraud. We have Title IX which gives scholarships to the dumb girls, instead of the smart ones who actually bother to study important subjects. Take that away, you'd be amazed how fast this shit dries up.

Sports don't matter to you. You'll rather read manga while jacking off in you mom's basement, and be mad at that high school girl you really liked fucked some Chad and not you. You can't forgive that she let him in her restroom, and you can't go in there even with a dress and lipstick on.

Dude, I went to an all-boys Catholic High School. which is what they did back in the 1970s.

And your obsession with Chad and Corn Flakes and Nice Guys, tells me you know the language of the Incel Culture more than I ever could.

Boo-hoo, your boss didn't want to pay for your expensive HRT and implants, you protested so he fired you. You tell everyone you quit because he's bigot, and you can't work for people that don't agree with your poor life choices, but in reality, he fired you because you're snowflake, you're easily triggered, you're always upset about something and ruin everyone's productivity, you can't handle any kind of critique, you get offended, and as a result you never get better at your job, you know "everything" better than he does, including running his business, you always feel "victimized" and nothing you did wrong was never your fault, you're humorless and not fun to work with, and as a result of that, you turned into office "snitch" who's running to HR whenever you get "offended".

Gee, you do like talking to your imaginary friend... I write fiction, and I don't put as much effort into making stuff up as you do here.

Reality- The issue that got me running afoul of Cigna was a busted knee, where I required an expensive knee replacement that the insurance company concluded was "elective."

I was so well-liked at that job, I still go fishing once a year with the office manager and her husband. I got a subsequent job because two other people I worked with wanted me to work with them again.

 

[JoeB131]

What you're essentially saying, parents cannot indoctrinate their kids with what you don't approve, but it's OK to teach them, or indoctrinate them with things you approve. In one of the previous posts you claimed that "kids don't "emulate" faggotry when they see it", so what makes you think they would emulate religion? Oh, they will?

Oh, I don't know, maybe telling them that some evil dude with horns is going to torture them for all eternity if they don't think the right things and pray the right way...

If parents wants to raise their kids to be religious, that is none of your business. It's their choice, it's their kids, their time, and their money. You want to tell parents they're wrong and you want to educate someone else kids the way it suits you, but you want to do it on their expense?

Like I said, guy, the problem these parents have is they don't want a contradictory opinion. It's the same reason why the racists didn't want their kids going to school with the black kids when I was growing up.

What's most ironical, you hate religion, and religious people for believing in god, while you're preaching socialism, and praying to government to resolve all your problems by punishing everyone who think different than you. Who do you think is real religious nutcase?

Well, here's the thing. We know government actually exists. Government can actually solve problems. Not all problems, but some problems.

There's no evidence of an angry sky pixie who constantly needs to be appeased. There is no God. He can't solve anyone's problems.

 

[Dadoalex]

And yet, I have a successful and happy family and there are half a dozen college degrees hanging on the wall, and our kids are about to put a few more there.

And you? Where does your happiness come from?

Mine?
From serving others.
From helping my kids.
From my work...
Oh, and...

From bitch slapping idiots on this venue.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Well, here's the thing. We know government actually exists. Government can actually solve problems. Not all problems, but some problems.

“Government is not the solution to our problem government IS the problem.” — Ronald Reagan​

 

[Bob Blaylock]

There is no God. He can't solve anyone's problems.

Soon enough, your time in this life will be over, and you'll get the chance to tell God to His face that He does not exist.

 

[insolent imp]

Chicks with dicks can make their picks but men with balls not at all. You want a pick and that is fine as long as you toe the progressive line.

 

[JoeB131]

“Government is not the solution to our problem government IS the problem.” — Ronald Reagan

Says a guy who thinks government should execute people for having abortions...

Soon enough, your time in this life will be over, and you'll get the chance to tell God to His face that He does not exist.

Actually, I am just as worried that the Shintos are right and that Amaterasu wants to have a word with me about my Asian fetish.

Which is to say, not very.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Says a guy who thinks government should execute people for having abortions...

For murdering the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings, absolutely.

If you had a vestige of a soul, a vestige of a conscience, or even a vestige of self-awareness, you would understand how truly bizarre it is that you think you have any high ground on which to stand, while taking the side of the lowest of murderers who murder the most innocent of victims

 

[Ame®icano]

Because the whole thing, as I have said is a fraud. We have Title IX which gives scholarships to the dumb girls, instead of the smart ones who actually bother to study important subjects. Take that away, you'd be amazed how fast this shit dries up.

First of all, title IX doesn't "give scholarships", it prohibits discrimination based on sex.

Ronald Reagan once said: "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.”

When he said this, he was talking about you. I don't think you're aware how bigoted, and chauvinistic, and demeaning to women your post is. And if you were thinking about black girls, which most likely is the case, you just exposed your true self by letting your inner racist running out of closet.

Just few posts earlier you said that you're "actually fine with them being equals in things that matter". Listen to yourself... , you're fine with girls being equal, except when it comes to scholarships for girls. Giving scholarships to dumb boys is fine, but if you're dumb girl, fuck you. According to you, sports are not important, and again according to you, especially female sports.

Gee, you do like talking to your imaginary friend... I write fiction, and I don't put as much effort into making stuff up as you do here.

No way, you write fiction?
We know, every post you write here is a poof of it.

Reality- The issue that got me running afoul of Cigna was a busted knee, where I required an expensive knee replacement that the insurance company concluded was "elective."

Funny thing with insurance policies, and pretty much with everything in life is that you usually get what you paid for.
I'm pretty sure that if your insurance company concluded that "knee replacement surgery" is "elective" procedure, they based it on what is actually written in your insurance policy.

I also know how painful knee injury could be, although I had a surgery, mine did not require the replacement, at least not yet.

 

[Ame®icano]

Oh, I don't know, maybe telling them that some evil dude with horns is going to torture them for all eternity if they don't think the right things and pray the right way...

I'm pretty sure that's not the case, but for the sake of argument... How different that is from telling kids that they're gonna end up in jail if they don't pay taxes, or if they say something government don't like, or if they murder someone?

Like I said, guy, the problem these parents have is they don't want a contradictory opinion. It's the same reason why the racists didn't want their kids going to school with the black kids when I was growing up.

Your both sentences are misleading and based on false premises.

School is not about opinion. There is nothing contradictory in math and physic, or English, or biology, they're all based on proofs.
It's not the same reason. You're equating two different things. Unlike racist Democrats who refused to let black kids be educated with white kids, parent's today are rejecting Democrats push for teaching kids of certain age about sex.

Well, here's the thing. We know government actually exists. Government can actually solve problems. Not all problems, but some problems.

There's no evidence of an angry sky pixie who constantly needs to be appeased. There is no God. He can't solve anyone's problems.

I don't know if god exists, or not, therefore I am an agnostic. Also, I don't believe in religion, therefore I am not religious.

But you are religious, and you believe in god. Your religion is Marxism and your god is government.

 

[percysunshine]

We all know it's unfair. Transwomen are not women. They're transwomen. <<<Different from actual women.

Kick them in the balls.

Fair is fair.