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Not that I'd feel a need to explain my reactions, but it would have helped if you'd linked to the post to which I disagreed.
I found it, I think, and my “Disagree” reaction to it appears to have been in error.
I pretty much refuted your points... pretty fucking effectively, which is why you can't respond to each rebuttal.
Actually, that's always been kind of a common practice... known as the "Romeo and Juliet" laws.
The only question is, where do you draw the line. I personally think a ten year gap is too much.
Whenever you say "actually" you're preparing the ground for your lie, in this case the lie would be "nobody is majoring in those things".
There are majors in women studies, and liberal arts, and sociology. They're not in "most popular" majors, but they're there. Failes again.
Name any country where communists/socialists didn't get in power without spilling blood.
I did, have you? Your support of kids being groomed by the teachers says a lot about where your sexual preference is. You expose it in pretty much every post you write here.
There was only one point that consisted of introduction to it, explanation, and conclusion. They're all going together, and the fact that you chopped it into pieces and replied to sentences separately just confirms that you're incapable of thinking. You always seem to be lost in thought which for you is unfamiliar territory.
That's funny, first you said "children can't consent", now you're saying that statutory rape is a common practice. No wonder why you support grooming.
Well, most of western Europe.
THey were voted into power in Chile, and Nixon staged an illegal coup that subjected the country to 20 years of right wing horror.
Try to keep up, we were discussing the bill that let's Racist Karen run to the school board and whine that little Timmy feels bad about being white.
Not the "don't say gay" bill where Homophobic Karen can run to the school board and claim that the teacher is making little Timmy sing show tunes.
The only time that Chile was socialist country was in 1932 for couple of months, by coup staged by Chilean Communists and Government Junta.
So you missed the part about Allende, right? Are you really this ignorant?
Nope, you made a lot of dumb points, each one of them needed to be individual refuted.
Marriage HAS changed, a lot, since the Good old days where you couldn't marry a black man, and your husband could rape the crap out of you and not get charged with a crime.
I'm sorry I have to simplify it for you because you are a tad slow.
Marriage has never changed. The political perception of what marriage is did, due to slippery slope fallacy.
How many times you were asked a question and you didn't answer? Most of the times. And those times you did answer, you exposed yourself to be exactly what you accuse others to be. For instance, you are for women to be equal, but not in everything, just when it suits you.
Earlier you stated that homosexuality and transgenderism is not a choice, but you did not provided shred of evidence to back it up. Your attempt to explain it with the non-existent "gay-gene" was more like an act of desperation than a proof you can use to back your "claim". Your claim that transgender brain is "wired" more to gender they identified with was also baseless since the study you used to back it up was, by their won words, inconclusive. That still doesn't prevent you from calling everyone who does not agree with you a bigots, or religious nutcases, yet you haven't provided anything that justifies it. Anything by your emotions, but those are hardly a proof. You were given plenty of opportunities to do so, and we're still waiting for a "proof". So, here is a question for you. Is homosexuality immoral?
Sexual urges are one thing. Nobody can really change what turns them on. However women don't dress like women because it's a desire they need fulfilled. I was raised with women, lived with women, had many sleep overs with women, and if it's one thing I've learned, it's that women only do all the things they do to make themselves more attractive when they are out with other people in public. If they are spending the day inside the house with nobody around, they don't dress up in high heels and wear makeup.
So if real women don't have these desires, how is it a guy who thinks he's a woman does? This is not desire, it's a mental disorder. That's fine too, but keep it to yourself and don't expect the normal world to cater to your illness yet alone our children.
I find both, homosexuality and transgenderism disturbing and repulsive. While religion have their reasons for rejecting such behaviors, I am looking if there is any secular justification for finding it immoral reason to dislike it beside "feelings"? I think there are many.
If homosexuality is comparable to infertility, then it is a disability. If is compared to straight people engaging in oral sex, then it is a fetish. If is comparable to friendship with the same gender, then why do they have sex? If is safe, why do homosexuals spread most STDs, and literally tear apart each others' sphincters? If is a valid means of romantic bonding, why does nature denies their reproduction? If their "love" is pure as a natural love, why are gays so much more promiscuous? If there is nothing inherently wrong with being homosexual, or transsexual, why would an entirely homosexual society cease to exist beyond single generation?
Leftists will take you on a wild chase through fallacies logic and appeals to emotion, but at the end of the day, the truth has always been our very first thought as children when we faced gays. Error. An error occur in nature all the time, and homosexuality is a perfect example of error. Somewhere in their brain critical error has occurred. If that error is natural, then it wouldn't be an error. If is not natural, than it's being implanted by some means. In what other situation is an error encouraged or rewarded as it is in LGBT in today's media? You may ask yourself how this error affects you, the answer is simple. Homosexuality, and transsexuality, despite what we've been told to believe, can be indoctrinated. Why do you think the rate of children who "turn out" gay skyrockets in the presence of gay "parents"? Or why sudden explosion of transgendered kids in educational system that is grooming kids into it?
I used to think that way, but not any more. Too many experiences that changed my thinking. One of them having several family members that are gay.
When I was a teen I hung around with this guy who had a gay brother. We were barely minors at the time and his brother was legally an adult. We wanted to get some beer and his brother was the only person of age to buy it. He didn't drive and I was parched, so I gave him a ride to the convenient store. We got to talking about his situation.
He told me if he had a million dollars and they made a pill or procedure for turning gay people straight, he'd be penny less today. Back in the mid 70's a million dollars was all the money in the world. That really made me think.
When I got a little older and moved here, a new neighbor moved in after a few years. This girl was a 10. Pretty, beautiful long hair, fantastic body. We got to know each other on a personal basis, and as it turned out, her husband was gay. She refused to believe it, but all the tell tale signs were there. He never touched her after their honeymoon. He always found jobs on second shift to keep away from her. She told me his entire family was homophobic. She tried to prance around nude coming out of the shower, and it didn't phase him one bit. One time as he was watering his garden, she went up to kiss him on the cheek, and he quickly moved his head in disgust. She convinced herself that she was unattractive and ugly.
If this guy had the balls to just admit what he was, not only would he have lived much happier, but wouldn't have ruined her life either. Plus I would have had a shot with her after we drank a few beers. As for my former friend, he developed a complex because of his gay brother and growing up with the jokes we tortured him with. He started to hang around with all the troublemakers, a tough guy. One day at a bar, he got into a fight with another patron. They went outside and he kicked the guys ass. About an hour or so the guy came back and told him to step outside again. My friend gladly obliged. When he got outside, he took two bullets in the chest and his family buried him later on in the week.
It's my belief that you can't change what you are. Even the best shrinks in the business stated there is nothing they can do with pedophiles. The laws can stop them from acting on their impulse, but there is no possible way to stop them from being attracted to children. You can beat them to death and they'd still get off on kids. It's why we need to protect them.
So my rule of law is do whatever makes you happy provided that 1) whatever you're doing is legal, 2) whatever it is you're doing is not hurting anybody, and 3) keep it to yourself and don't tell me about it. If you can do those three things, I support your happiness even if you're having sex with a dog.
We have two choices in life: Live your life to make your friends, family and coworkers happy, or say screw them and live your life in whatever way makes you happy.
OK, I got where you coming from, so hear me out. Let us dissect the phrase, "homosexuality is not a choice". In order to do that, we must establish some axioms and definitions.
One is mentally ill if one is psychologically incapable of refraining from biologically non-necessity activity or desire.
Biologically necessary activities or desires are those without which a species cannot perpetuate itself through generations: i.e. procurement and consumption of resources, expurgation of waste, survival to sexual maturity, sexual reproduction, and education of the young.
Desires are either biological or psychological in character, they are distinguished according to whether the desire leads toward a biologically necessary or biologically non-necessary activity.
Desires are either innate or habitual. Habitual desires are acquired desires. Consider an example: A person who has never had alcohol cannot desire to drink alcohol for alcohol's sake, but only for some other sake, i.e. acceptance in a peer group. Further, a person who has not acquired a refined taste for scotch through frequent consumption thereof cannot desire to drink Oban for Oban's sake, but only for the sake of scotch in general, for curiosity, or for something else. Therefore, habitual desires are the result of the certain activities. Innate desires, however, are not.
Homosexual desires are by the former definition not biological desires.
The meaning of other terms are taken from their accepted use in ordinary discourse.
One is homosexual if and only if one either 1) engages in homosexual activity, 2) has homosexual desires, or 3) has homosexual desires and engages in homosexual activity.
I don't think that anything I wrote so far is controversial, but just common sense. With these laid down, what follows is all possible propositions.
Therefore, homosexuals are mentally ill if and only if they do not choose to be homosexual and are not physically compelled by another to engage in homosexual activities. However, that is not the end of the discussion. Homosexuality, as a group of behaviors, is inherently self destructive and causes self harm. And, as a group of behaviors, is statistically one of the most self harmful. Willful pursuit of a behavior, or group of behaviors, that is inherently self harmful is mental illness and should be addresses as such, and not by giving into any, or all of their demands. As I said earlier, I find it disturbing and repulsive, and that doesn't mean disrespect, rather refusal to accept its normalcy.
- If (1): One engages in homosexual activity either A) voluntarily or B) involuntarily,
- (1.A): One choses to be homosexual and homosexuality is a choice.
- (1.B): One is compelled to engage either i) psychologically or ii) physically, by another, and homosexuality is not a choice.
- (1.B.i): One is mentally ill by the definition of mental illness.
- If (2): One desire homosexuality either A) innately of B) habitually,
- (2.B): One has acquired homosexual desires through homosexual activity. If one acquire these involuntarily through involuntary engagement in homosexual activity, one is either coerced by another or one is mentally ill. Otherwise homosexuality is a choice.
- (2.A): One is either i) able to refrain from satisfying these innate homosexual desires or ii) unable to refrain.
- (2.A.i): One chooses to be homosexual, and homosexuality is a choice.
- (2.A.ii): One is mentally ill, by the definition of mental illness.
- If (3): One either chooses to be homosexual, or homosexuality is a mental illness.
To understand my point, take gay out of the picture for a moment. What about guys that get off on being tied up and whipped, or being suffocated? What about guys who get off on a woman defecating on their face? How about guys who get off on women's feet? And I learned about this from the Howard Stern show, there are guys that get off on being treated like a baby. They found a company that sells oversized cribs, diapers, safety pins, pacifiers so there must be enough of them for companies to produce these products. What about women that like having sex with dogs?
Nope, it's very much changed, which is why you can't rape your wife anymore.
I did... you just didn't like the answers... so I'm not wasting time on you. Enjoy your word salads.
Sure, I did... You just didn't like the answers... it's why I don't do links. Pearls before Swine.
Nothing to do with a meaning of marriage. You can't rape anyone, in or out of marriage.
And yet you want normal people who disagree with the gay (read: your) lifestyle to have their kids taken away from them.That's a simple one, Welfare Ray.
If everyone involved is a consenting adult... then it's okay.
Not complicated at all.
And yet you want normal people who disagree with the gay (read: your) lifestyle to have their kids taken away from them.
Sexual urges are one thing. Nobody can really change what turns them on. However women don't dress like women because it's a desire they need fulfilled. I was raised with women, lived with women, had many sleep overs with women, and if it's one thing I've learned, it's that women only do all the things they do to make themselves more attractive when they are out with other people in public. If they are spending the day inside the house with nobody around, they don't dress up in high heels and wear makeup.
So if real women don't have these desires, how is it a guy who thinks he's a woman does? This is not desire, it's a mental disorder. That's fine too, but keep it to yourself and don't expect the normal world to cater to your illness yet alone our children.
