POLL: Will Trump's "Shithole" comments change any minds about him?

[pismoe]

this is all so foolish , trump is President for at least 3 years , hopefully 7 and your preacher is dead a long time now .

 

[evenflow1969]

I have a funny voice and a big nose and am white. Who gives a fuck about color we all have our thing! You know we all have to watch what we say or there are consequences! It is that simple! Fuck the politics!

Weatherman pointed out that the media has spun it into a racial thing.


You said there was no spin.


You are white and just said something negative about a black guy.


If I was as hostile to you as the media is to Trump, I would "spin" that into a "racial thing".


Oh, and I would have to be a soulless piece of shit.


Because that would be very, very wrong of me.


Would you not agree, that I would have to be a complete piece of shit to accuse you of being racist, just for pointing out the truth, ie that Tyson has a funny voice?

It is not a racial thing it is a big mouth thing!

That's your spin. If I was as much of a dick as the vast majority of reporters, I could claim otherwise.


If enough of the mob followed my lead, we could create a perception that you would have to live with for the rest of your life.



What would you think of someone that did that?


WHat kind of person would play that type of game?

My spin? A big fat idiot ran his big fat trap and it is every ones fault but his own. If he does not want bad things said about him, he needs to not run his big fat trap. It is his job to stay out of negaitve press and it is the presses job to get dirt! It has always been that way, it will always be that way. This is what you get when you put the trash tv in the white house. I thought self responsibilty was a conservative value. I mean lets face it we can not prove the Donald is a racist by this one act but, you are kidding your self if you think he is not a racist. I can certainly see how racism could be a motivator for what he said. Welcome to public life, do not say things that can be missconstrued. Do I feel as though the Donald has been unfairly treated? No

You're white and you made a negative comment about a black man.


By your standards, if I spun that to create a perception that you were racist, that would be on you, not me.


Really?



Is that really what you believe?

If you want to belive that I am racist that is your right, it is not what I belive. With out you knowing me, I can seee how my statement could be misconstrued. One could easily jump to that conclusion. I made a calculated risk saying it. The difference is that when I say some thing that can be misconstrued, I do not take near the risk that some one in the public eye takes. I could say some pretty nasty stuff and not make the evening news. If I were famous I would have to be more carefull what I said. Right or wrong that is the way it is!

 

[pismoe]

and what does TRUMP say --- Rand Paul: Trump isn't prejudiced against Haiti because he helped fund my medical mission trip there --- doesn't really matter though because 'haiti' is still a sh1thole . Course looks like The Trump helped to personally fund DR. Rand Pauls medical mission trip to 'haiti' Slade .

 

[JoeB131]

Does she love that country more than she loves this country ? We are trying to fix this country, and illegal immigration is a big part of that, so she is welcome to engage in credible dialogue over the issue or go back to the country she lives so much more than the one that's being destroyed while using all the fake outrage.

Actually, MIA was born in this country, her parents were from Haiti before she joined the Mormon Cult.

No, guy, illegal immigration is very low on the list of problems this country has.

Bigger problems are the lack of infrastructure, poor education, and, well, I can go on with the problems, most of them caused because Republicans took the money we normally use to fix those problems and gave tax cuts to rich people.

 

[JoeB131]

The ones who can't find jobs go home ???? You are kidding us right ?

the number of illegals went from 12.3 MM in 2009 to about 11M today.

Yes, they've gone home.

 

[pismoe]

The ones who can't find jobs go home ???? You are kidding us right ?

the number of illegals went from 12.3 MM in 2009 to about 11M today.

Yes, they've gone home.

------------------------------------- BS on both you latest posts , besides that one illegal is one too many JoeB .

 

[beagle9]

Answer: No.

The media is only making a fracas about Trump allegedly calling shithole countries shithole countries because they hate him.

These same media propaganda organs support illegal immigration because said immigrants are fleeing shithole countries.

. Are we the only country they can flee to, and how is it they might think we are if we aren't ? Who is drawing them in here instead of it being more balanced in the world ??

Yeah. Why aren't they fleeing to Socialist Paradises like Venezuela, Zimbabwe and North Korea?

We don't know their ideologies, back grounds, religions, culture etc so how do we know that they wouldn't go there instead of here if they could ? Why do they come here if they hate us ? Is it the freebies, welfare, housing, cell phones, clean water, clean paved streets, modern services, safety, trends, Demon-crats ???

 

[pismoe]

and then they destroy it when they get here .

 

[jc456]

Weatherman pointed out that the media has spun it into a racial thing.


You said there was no spin.


You are white and just said something negative about a black guy.


If I was as hostile to you as the media is to Trump, I would "spin" that into a "racial thing".


Oh, and I would have to be a soulless piece of shit.


Because that would be very, very wrong of me.


Would you not agree, that I would have to be a complete piece of shit to accuse you of being racist, just for pointing out the truth, ie that Tyson has a funny voice?

It is not a racial thing it is a big mouth thing!

That's your spin. If I was as much of a dick as the vast majority of reporters, I could claim otherwise.


If enough of the mob followed my lead, we could create a perception that you would have to live with for the rest of your life.



What would you think of someone that did that?


WHat kind of person would play that type of game?

My spin? A big fat idiot ran his big fat trap and it is every ones fault but his own. If he does not want bad things said about him, he needs to not run his big fat trap. It is his job to stay out of negaitve press and it is the presses job to get dirt! It has always been that way, it will always be that way. This is what you get when you put the trash tv in the white house. I thought self responsibilty was a conservative value. I mean lets face it we can not prove the Donald is a racist by this one act but, you are kidding your self if you think he is not a racist. I can certainly see how racism could be a motivator for what he said. Welcome to public life, do not say things that can be missconstrued. Do I feel as though the Donald has been unfairly treated? No

You're white and you made a negative comment about a black man.


By your standards, if I spun that to create a perception that you were racist, that would be on you, not me.


Really?



Is that really what you believe?

If you want to belive that I am racist that is your right, it is not what I belive. With out you knowing me, I can seee how my statement could be misconstrued. One could easily jump to that conclusion. I made a calculated risk saying it. The difference is that when I say some thing that can be misconstrued, I do not take near the risk that some one in the public eye takes. I could say some pretty nasty stuff and not make the evening news. If I were famous I would have to be more carefull what I said. Right or wrong that is the way it is!

Who said something public? Oh yeah, Durbin and he lied. WoW

 

[beagle9]

Trump says a lot of stupid shit, but sometimes he is just being honest. Making claims such as his inauguration turnout being the greatest in history is retarded. While not exactly diplomatic, calling a shithole a shithole is brutal honesty.

How do you feel about our POTUS saying he doesn't want people who are born in shithole countries to come here?

. Are you projecting here ? Did he say "those BORN in shite-holes" aren't welcome here ?? Don't think so.

Uh yeah, that’s pretty much exactly what he said

. Got proof of it ? I heard that he said "why are we allowing people to come here from these places" ? Otherwise with him changing the system to merit based, and these places are in question concerning immigrants wanting to come here from these places, but are they coming here based upon the reasons of wanting to become an American citizen, and to learn the language, and to want to assimilate ?? Was he wrong for the question he asked in the context of the discussion as to why they will be coming in from these places, and why do we want them coming in from these places if it's not merit based ??

Otherwise what may have been the case from these places over recent times past, is that the immigration from these places has been more of a draw upon the resources here than an add to them right ?? So Trump (looking out for American interest in the discussion), wanted to get an answer from the Demon-crats as to why from here verses there in a merit based system to be run ? Undoubtedly they didn't have an answer, so they tried to throw down the race card.

There are gonna be winners and losers picked of course, but is that wrong being based upon a merit based immigration system verses a system that was flooding the country with dependents once they arrived here ?? Yes I would feel that we as a nation would always accommodate foriegners in emergency situations, and also bring in foriegners to work in temporarily status as we've always done, but this idiotic lottery thing the Demon-crats had going resulted in the deaths of innocent American's, and Trump is trying to stop that.

I asked did the Demon-crats set Trump up, and he fell into yet another trap they have laid for him, where as they ask a question that was wide and/or broad in the interpretation of, and when Trump responded with a simplistic answer, then they took it and ran with it knowing full well that the answer could be retold as if Trump meant one thing when he actually meant another ?? I think so, and that's why Trump responded "No Trust", after he was set up. Good luck Demon-crats, because you might have just lost your access card in the situation.

Thanks for the rational and semi measured response. I believe about 40% of our current immigration is merit based and 60% is family unification or chain... I’m fine with having a conversation about better ways to run that system but there a ton of lies and mistruths getting thrown around how our system works.

Your version of what Trump said is still something I take issue with. It doesn’t fall in line with his merit based system and suggests that there are lesser people coming from poor countries who he doesn’t want in our country. That is deeply offensive and against my values as an American

. Remember Slade, he is dealing with a broken system that was allowing millions in with out proper accountability, and it began to reek havoc on the local population as far as wages go, safety goes, and swelling up the prison population, and creating dependency from Hell that the taxpayer working crowd was forced to pay the bill for. I don't think Trump really thinks people are less, but only that he wants to turn the system around in order to make it better for us and for those who come here. If Trump said what they claim he said, then the quick follow up in order to confirm his thinking on the issue, would have been to say "so Trump are you saying that we should ban any people coming from these countries" ???? The fact that no one attempted to clarify what he may have meant by what he alledgedly had said, tells me that they got just enough of what they wanted to get in order to run with it regardless of what he may have meant by it, and then they tried to use it for the resistance.

Like Trump said "No Trust" and that's sad.

 

[beagle9]

If Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was preaching today, he would be speaking the idea that we are one people, one family, one house—the American house and the world house—that we must learn to live together as brothers and sisters, if not we will perish as fools. FOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS

. You lost me with the world house. King was a globalist ?

 

[JoeB131]

BS on both you latest posts , besides that one illegal is one too many JoeB .

Again, we all benefit from undocumented labor. It's something we all tolerate and pretend we dont' see them.

 

[beagle9]

BS on both you latest posts , besides that one illegal is one too many JoeB .

Again, we all benefit from undocumented labor. It's something we all tolerate and pretend we dont' see them.

. Ok how do I benefit from an illegal immigrant being here ? Zero is how much I benefit from the illegals being here, and there are millions more just like me.

 

[evenflow1969]

Haiti is a shithole. A hellhole. A depressing black hole of despair, starvation, disease, thuggery, mortality, socialist failure, poverty, anarchy, cholera, AIDS and hopelessness. Like most African nations.
Thank God for a President not living in fantasy.

Hati is not and has never been socialist!

 

[jc456]

How do you feel about our POTUS saying he doesn't want people who are born in shithole countries to come here?

. Are you projecting here ? Did he say "those BORN in shite-holes" aren't welcome here ?? Don't think so.

Uh yeah, that’s pretty much exactly what he said

. Got proof of it ? I heard thasaid "why are we allowing people to come here from these places" ? Otherwise with him changing the system to merit based, and these places are in question concerning immigrants wanting to come here from these places, but are they coming here based upon the reasons of wanting to become an American citizen, and to learn the language, and to want to assimilate ?? Was he wrong for the question he asked in the context of the discussion as to why they will be coming in from these places, and why do we want them coming in from these places if it's not merit based ??

Otherwise what may have been the case from these places over recent times past, is that the immigration from these places has been more of a draw upon the resources here than an add to them right ?? So Trump (looking out for American interest in the discussion), wanted to get an answer from the Demon-crats as to why from here verses there in a merit based system to be run ? Undoubtedly they didn't have an answer, so they tried to throw down the race card.

There are gonna be winners and losers picked of course, but is that wrong being based upon a merit based immigration system verses a system that was flooding the country with dependents once they arrived here ?? Yes I would feel that we as a nation would always accommodate foriegners in emergency situations, and also bring in foriegners to work in temporarily status as we've always done, but this idiotic lottery thing the Demon-crats had going resulted in the deaths of innocent American's, and Trump is trying to stop that.

I asked did the Demon-crats set Trump up, and he fell into yet another trap they have laid for him, where as they ask a question that was wide and/or broad in the interpretation of, and when Trump responded with a simplistic answer, then they took it and ran with it knowing full well that the answer could be retold as if Trump meant one thing when he actually meant another ?? I think so, and that's why Trump responded "No Trust", after he was set up. Good luck Demon-crats, because you might have just lost your access card in the situation.

Thanks for the rational and semi measured response. I believe about 40% of our current immigration is merit based and 60% is family unification or chain... I’m fine with having a conversation about better ways to run that system but there a ton of lies and mistruths getting thrown around how our system works.

Your version of what Trump said is still something I take issue with. It doesn’t fall in line with his merit based system and suggests that there are lesser people coming from poor countries who he doesn’t want in our country. That is deeply offensive and against my values as an American

. Remember Slade, he is dealing with a broken system that was allowing millions in with out proper accountability, and it began to reek havoc on the local population as far as wages go, safety goes, and swelling up the prison population, and creating dependency from Hell that the taxpayer working crowd was forced to pay the bill for. I don't think Trump really thinks people are less, but only that he wants to turn the system around in order to make it better for us and for those who come here. If Trump said what they claim he said, then the quick follow up in order to confirm his thinking on the issue, would have been to say "so Trump are you saying that we should ban any people coming from these countries" ???? The fact that no one attempted to clarify what he may have meant by what he alledgedly had said, tells me that they got just enough of what they wanted to get in order to run with it regardless of what he may have meant by it, and then they tried to use it for the resistance.

Like Trump said "No Trust" and that's sad.

But trump never said it. So.

 

[jc456]

Haiti is a shithole. A hellhole. A depressing black hole of despair, starvation, disease, thuggery, mortality, socialist failure, poverty, anarchy, cholera, AIDS and hopelessness. Like most African nations.
Thank God for a President not living in fantasy.

Hati is not and has never been socialist!

Just a shithole place

 

[jc456]

BS on both you latest posts , besides that one illegal is one too many JoeB .

Again, we all benefit from undocumented labor. It's something we all tolerate and pretend we dont' see them.

Nope

 

[Markle]

Progressives will hang on this nothingburger as long as they can. They'll do anything to distract from the REAL NEWS!

BREAKING: First Uranium One Indictment Unsealed – Maryland Man Indicted on 11 Counts of Bribery and Fraud
January 12, 2018 by Jim Hoft

On Friday DOJ officials in the District of Maryland announced Mark Lambert from Mount Airy, Maryland was indicted with 11 counts related to foreign bribery.

The charges stem from an alleged scheme by Lambert to bribe Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official at JSC Techsnabexport (TENEX).

FBI informant William D. Campbell told reporters in November that he has video of briefcases full of money in the Uranium One bribery case.

Campbell says he is in fear for his life since he was outed by the Sessions Department of Justice to the liberal media.

Justice.gov reported:

An indictment against a former co-president of a Maryland-based transportation company that provides services for the transportation of nuclear materials to customers in the United States and abroad, was unsealed today for his alleged role in a scheme that involved the bribery of an official at a subsidiary of Russia’s State Atomic Energy Corporation.

BREAKING: First Uranium One Indictment Unsealed – Maryland Man Indicted on 11 Counts of Bribery and Fraud

Progressives would rather divert to anything from this news!

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Haiti is a shithole. A hellhole. A depressing black hole of despair, starvation, disease, thuggery, mortality, socialist failure, poverty, anarchy, cholera, AIDS and hopelessness. Like most African nations.
Thank God for a President not living in fantasy.

/----/ I don't think anyone, Lib or Conserv lives in a fantasy about those places. They are just bound by political correctness and can't say what everyone can see. Trump tells it like it is.
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Exactly, this only increases his popularity among the general population at the cheap expense of making his haters even more hateful. The people that care are the people that didn't vote for him to begin with and never would. Who cares.

 

[pismoe]

BS on both you latest posts , besides that one illegal is one too many JoeB .

Again, we all benefit from undocumented labor. It's something we all tolerate and pretend we dont' see them.

----------------------------- and BS on post 652 , my only benefit will be when we deport them JoeB .