Pothead in Washington state was high when he killed 7 year old girl trick-or-treating

Hope this asshole pothead gets what's coming to him.
We'll be seeing this more and more in Oregon after recreational pot is approved today.

November 4, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Prosecutors: Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high


A man accused of striking and killing a 7-year-old girl who was trick-or-treating Halloween night was under the influence of marijuana at the time, prosecutors say.

Attired in a suicide smock and hanging his head, Duane C. Abbott appeared in Clark County Superior Court on suspicion of vehicular homicide and three counts of vehicular assault.

Cadence Boyer, 7, was walking with her mom, Annie Arnold, 32, 30-year-old Chelina Alsteen and an unidentified 6-year-old girl on a sidewalk along Northeast 112th Avenue in east Vancouver when they were struck by a Ford Mustang at about 8:20 p.m. The girls were out trick-or-treating.

All four were rushed to area hospitals. Cadence Boyer died Sunday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center in Portland. Her autopsy is scheduled for today.

The 6-year-old girl, whose parents asked that her name not be released, is a first-grader at Orchards Elementary, according to Gail Spolar, spokeswoman for Evergreen Public Schools. The girl was in serious condition at a local hospital but was showing signs of improvement, the school said in a letter sent home to parents.

Arnold, Cadence Boyer’s mother, was listed in fair condition Monday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. Alsteen remained in critical condition at PeaceHealth Southwest Medical Center.

According to court documents, Abbott said he was changing lanes on northbound Northeast 112th Avenue when he lost control of his vehicle and drove up onto the sidewalk, striking the victims and a utility pole.

He said he smokes 2 to 3 grams of marijuana daily and had his last joint at 5 p.m. Friday, court records say.

Police reported that Abbott had red watery eyes and that they looked droopy. His speech also was slurred, police said.

A witnesses ran to the two injured little girls. One witness pulled one of the little girls away from the Mustang, which was on fire. Another witness held the head of the other little girl until emergency responders arrived.

Witnesses said Abbott crawled out of his vehicle and walked a short distance before collapsing on the ground, court records say.

Judge Robert Lewis held Abbott in lieu of $750,000 and appointed Vancouver attorney Jeff Sowder to defend him. He is scheduled to be arraigned on the charges Nov. 14.

Senior Deputy Prosecutor Kasey Vu said Abbott has an extensive criminal history dating back to 1981, including burglary, theft, forgery and escape.

Prosecutors Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high The Today File Seattle Times

Refer Madness all over again........

Kids get hit every Halloween. Maybe we can make a computer program and install it inside of the brain of every child at birth that will prevent them from growing up and having a traffic accident.

It is tragic when a child is killed on Halloween. It is destructive when a teen becomes intoxicated and takes his insecurities out by vandalizing property, or driving recklessly. But to direct the blame of these tragedies upon a native plant is utterly fuktarded. People who do that are fuktards. There is not much more to say than that.

There is no poison in the herb.


And now that voters have approved of recreational pot, we'll be seeing more kids struck on Halloween, and every other day as well.

Being under the influence of pot and pot causing the accident are two different things. These tragedies happen when people are not under any influence.


Yes they do, but driving high is likely to make it easier to lose control, and unfortunately now that recreational pot is legal in Washington, and now Oregon we're likely to see more tragedies like this.
 
Hope this asshole pothead gets what's coming to him.
We'll be seeing this more and more in Oregon after recreational pot is approved today.

November 4, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Prosecutors: Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high


A man accused of striking and killing a 7-year-old girl who was trick-or-treating Halloween night was under the influence of marijuana at the time, prosecutors say.

Attired in a suicide smock and hanging his head, Duane C. Abbott appeared in Clark County Superior Court on suspicion of vehicular homicide and three counts of vehicular assault.

Cadence Boyer, 7, was walking with her mom, Annie Arnold, 32, 30-year-old Chelina Alsteen and an unidentified 6-year-old girl on a sidewalk along Northeast 112th Avenue in east Vancouver when they were struck by a Ford Mustang at about 8:20 p.m. The girls were out trick-or-treating.

All four were rushed to area hospitals. Cadence Boyer died Sunday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center in Portland. Her autopsy is scheduled for today.

The 6-year-old girl, whose parents asked that her name not be released, is a first-grader at Orchards Elementary, according to Gail Spolar, spokeswoman for Evergreen Public Schools. The girl was in serious condition at a local hospital but was showing signs of improvement, the school said in a letter sent home to parents.

Arnold, Cadence Boyer’s mother, was listed in fair condition Monday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. Alsteen remained in critical condition at PeaceHealth Southwest Medical Center.

According to court documents, Abbott said he was changing lanes on northbound Northeast 112th Avenue when he lost control of his vehicle and drove up onto the sidewalk, striking the victims and a utility pole.

He said he smokes 2 to 3 grams of marijuana daily and had his last joint at 5 p.m. Friday, court records say.

Police reported that Abbott had red watery eyes and that they looked droopy. His speech also was slurred, police said.

A witnesses ran to the two injured little girls. One witness pulled one of the little girls away from the Mustang, which was on fire. Another witness held the head of the other little girl until emergency responders arrived.

Witnesses said Abbott crawled out of his vehicle and walked a short distance before collapsing on the ground, court records say.

Judge Robert Lewis held Abbott in lieu of $750,000 and appointed Vancouver attorney Jeff Sowder to defend him. He is scheduled to be arraigned on the charges Nov. 14.

Senior Deputy Prosecutor Kasey Vu said Abbott has an extensive criminal history dating back to 1981, including burglary, theft, forgery and escape.

Prosecutors Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high The Today File Seattle Times

Refer Madness all over again........

Kids get hit every Halloween. Maybe we can make a computer program and install it inside of the brain of every child at birth that will prevent them from growing up and having a traffic accident.

It is tragic when a child is killed on Halloween. It is destructive when a teen becomes intoxicated and takes his insecurities out by vandalizing property, or driving recklessly. But to direct the blame of these tragedies upon a native plant is utterly fuktarded. People who do that are fuktards. There is not much more to say than that.

There is no poison in the herb.


And now that voters have approved of recreational pot, we'll be seeing more kids struck on Halloween, and every other day as well.

Being under the influence of pot and pot causing the accident are two different things. These tragedies happen when people are not under any influence.


Yes they do, but driving high is likely to make it easier to lose control, and unfortunately now that recreational pot is legal in Washington, and now Oregon we're likely to see more tragedies like this.

Do you honestly think people didn't drive high when pot was illegal? Seriously?

Wow. People are so out of touch with what is actually going on. Meanwhile, I read the article, and from the description of this guy (slurring his words, red droopy eyes) he sounds like he was also drunk.

Alcohol has killed far more people than pot. Yet nobody is clamoring to ban alcohol. When a drunk driver kills someone, nobody talks about banning alcohol.
 
Hope this asshole pothead gets what's coming to him.
We'll be seeing this more and more in Oregon after recreational pot is approved today.

November 4, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Prosecutors Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high The Today File Seattle Times

Refer Madness all over again........

Kids get hit every Halloween. Maybe we can make a computer program and install it inside of the brain of every child at birth that will prevent them from growing up and having a traffic accident.

It is tragic when a child is killed on Halloween. It is destructive when a teen becomes intoxicated and takes his insecurities out by vandalizing property, or driving recklessly. But to direct the blame of these tragedies upon a native plant is utterly fuktarded. People who do that are fuktards. There is not much more to say than that.

There is no poison in the herb.


And now that voters have approved of recreational pot, we'll be seeing more kids struck on Halloween, and every other day as well.

Being under the influence of pot and pot causing the accident are two different things. These tragedies happen when people are not under any influence.


Yes they do, but driving high is likely to make it easier to lose control, and unfortunately now that recreational pot is legal in Washington, and now Oregon we're likely to see more tragedies like this.

Do you honestly think people didn't drive high when pot was illegal? Seriously?

Wow. People are so out of touch with what is actually going on. Meanwhile, I read the article, and from the description of this guy (slurring his words, red droopy eyes) he sounds like he was also drunk.

Alcohol has killed far more people than pot. Yet nobody is clamoring to ban alcohol. When a drunk driver kills someone, nobody talks about banning alcohol.

the alcoholics would never think of banning the drug of their choice.....
 
Hope this asshole pothead gets what's coming to him.
We'll be seeing this more and more in Oregon after recreational pot is approved today.

November 4, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Prosecutors: Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high


A man accused of striking and killing a 7-year-old girl who was trick-or-treating Halloween night was under the influence of marijuana at the time, prosecutors say.

Attired in a suicide smock and hanging his head, Duane C. Abbott appeared in Clark County Superior Court on suspicion of vehicular homicide and three counts of vehicular assault.

Cadence Boyer, 7, was walking with her mom, Annie Arnold, 32, 30-year-old Chelina Alsteen and an unidentified 6-year-old girl on a sidewalk along Northeast 112th Avenue in east Vancouver when they were struck by a Ford Mustang at about 8:20 p.m. The girls were out trick-or-treating.

All four were rushed to area hospitals. Cadence Boyer died Sunday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center in Portland. Her autopsy is scheduled for today.

The 6-year-old girl, whose parents asked that her name not be released, is a first-grader at Orchards Elementary, according to Gail Spolar, spokeswoman for Evergreen Public Schools. The girl was in serious condition at a local hospital but was showing signs of improvement, the school said in a letter sent home to parents.

Arnold, Cadence Boyer’s mother, was listed in fair condition Monday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. Alsteen remained in critical condition at PeaceHealth Southwest Medical Center.

According to court documents, Abbott said he was changing lanes on northbound Northeast 112th Avenue when he lost control of his vehicle and drove up onto the sidewalk, striking the victims and a utility pole.

He said he smokes 2 to 3 grams of marijuana daily and had his last joint at 5 p.m. Friday, court records say.

Police reported that Abbott had red watery eyes and that they looked droopy. His speech also was slurred, police said.

A witnesses ran to the two injured little girls. One witness pulled one of the little girls away from the Mustang, which was on fire. Another witness held the head of the other little girl until emergency responders arrived.

Witnesses said Abbott crawled out of his vehicle and walked a short distance before collapsing on the ground, court records say.

Judge Robert Lewis held Abbott in lieu of $750,000 and appointed Vancouver attorney Jeff Sowder to defend him. He is scheduled to be arraigned on the charges Nov. 14.

Senior Deputy Prosecutor Kasey Vu said Abbott has an extensive criminal history dating back to 1981, including burglary, theft, forgery and escape.

Prosecutors Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high The Today File Seattle Times

Refer Madness all over again........

Kids get hit every Halloween. Maybe we can make a computer program and install it inside of the brain of every child at birth that will prevent them from growing up and having a traffic accident.

It is tragic when a child is killed on Halloween. It is destructive when a teen becomes intoxicated and takes his insecurities out by vandalizing property, or driving recklessly. But to direct the blame of these tragedies upon a native plant is utterly fuktarded. People who do that are fuktards. There is not much more to say than that.

There is no poison in the herb.


And now that voters have approved of recreational pot, we'll be seeing more kids struck on Halloween, and every other day as well.


When I was young, drinking and driving was treated as a joke. Pretty much all the parents I knew drove us around after drinking.

Fast forward- we got tired of people dying preventable deaths- and rather than making alcohol illegal- because that didn't work- we had both education campaigns on drinking and driving- and made the penalties for drinking and driving so stiff that people paid attention.

Treat pot the same way.
 
Hope this asshole pothead gets what's coming to him.
We'll be seeing this more and more in Oregon after recreational pot is approved today.

November 4, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Prosecutors: Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high


A man accused of striking and killing a 7-year-old girl who was trick-or-treating Halloween night was under the influence of marijuana at the time, prosecutors say.

Attired in a suicide smock and hanging his head, Duane C. Abbott appeared in Clark County Superior Court on suspicion of vehicular homicide and three counts of vehicular assault.

Cadence Boyer, 7, was walking with her mom, Annie Arnold, 32, 30-year-old Chelina Alsteen and an unidentified 6-year-old girl on a sidewalk along Northeast 112th Avenue in east Vancouver when they were struck by a Ford Mustang at about 8:20 p.m. The girls were out trick-or-treating.

All four were rushed to area hospitals. Cadence Boyer died Sunday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center in Portland. Her autopsy is scheduled for today.

The 6-year-old girl, whose parents asked that her name not be released, is a first-grader at Orchards Elementary, according to Gail Spolar, spokeswoman for Evergreen Public Schools. The girl was in serious condition at a local hospital but was showing signs of improvement, the school said in a letter sent home to parents.

Arnold, Cadence Boyer’s mother, was listed in fair condition Monday at Legacy Emanuel Medical Center. Alsteen remained in critical condition at PeaceHealth Southwest Medical Center.

According to court documents, Abbott said he was changing lanes on northbound Northeast 112th Avenue when he lost control of his vehicle and drove up onto the sidewalk, striking the victims and a utility pole.

He said he smokes 2 to 3 grams of marijuana daily and had his last joint at 5 p.m. Friday, court records say.

Police reported that Abbott had red watery eyes and that they looked droopy. His speech also was slurred, police said.

A witnesses ran to the two injured little girls. One witness pulled one of the little girls away from the Mustang, which was on fire. Another witness held the head of the other little girl until emergency responders arrived.

Witnesses said Abbott crawled out of his vehicle and walked a short distance before collapsing on the ground, court records say.

Judge Robert Lewis held Abbott in lieu of $750,000 and appointed Vancouver attorney Jeff Sowder to defend him. He is scheduled to be arraigned on the charges Nov. 14.

Senior Deputy Prosecutor Kasey Vu said Abbott has an extensive criminal history dating back to 1981, including burglary, theft, forgery and escape.

Prosecutors Man accused of hitting trick-or-treaters in Vancouver was high The Today File Seattle Times

Refer Madness all over again........

Kids get hit every Halloween. Maybe we can make a computer program and install it inside of the brain of every child at birth that will prevent them from growing up and having a traffic accident.

It is tragic when a child is killed on Halloween. It is destructive when a teen becomes intoxicated and takes his insecurities out by vandalizing property, or driving recklessly. But to direct the blame of these tragedies upon a native plant is utterly fuktarded. People who do that are fuktards. There is not much more to say than that.

There is no poison in the herb.


And now that voters have approved of recreational pot, we'll be seeing more kids struck on Halloween, and every other day as well.

Being under the influence of pot and pot causing the accident are two different things. These tragedies happen when people are not under any influence.


Yes they do, but driving high is likely to make it easier to lose control, and unfortunately now that recreational pot is legal in Washington, and now Oregon we're likely to see more tragedies like this.

have you ever driven high on pot?
 
Drunk driving and drugged driving fatalities should be dealt with exactly the same way as any other intentional act resulting in death. They are death penalty offenses. Drugs are more pernicious than alcohol. There is no way to cure or rehabilitate someone who has no ability to appreciate the nature of their act so imagines it an innocent activity. They could be warehoused for life or just double tapped where they stand.
 
Drunk driving and drugged driving fatalities should be dealt with exactly the same way as any other intentional act resulting in death. They are death penalty offenses. Drugs are more pernicious than alcohol. .

What an idiotic statement.

Alcohol is a drug.

How can a drug be more pernicious than a drug?

Our campaign to reduce drunk driving deaths has worked- use the same proven strategy to prevent driving under the influence of pot.
 
And that drink asshole killing children is any better? Should we ban booze? Thousands of people die every year from booze.

Think about it.
So far the drunks have killed a lot more kids this Halloween.

Asshole referenced in article probably was drinking too.

Hang him, soon, as a warning.

"as a warning"?
Stupid thing to say.

BUT, if he was impaired, that should be considered.

OTOH, we let a lot of drunks go to drink and drive again.

Neither should be allowed to continue.
 
Drunk driving and drugged driving fatalities should be dealt with exactly the same way as any other intentional act resulting in death. They are death penalty offenses. Drugs are more pernicious than alcohol. .

What an idiotic statement.

Alcohol is a drug.

How can a drug be more pernicious than a drug?

Our campaign to reduce drunk driving deaths has worked- use the same proven strategy to prevent driving under the influence of pot.

Exactly.

We have made some drugs legal while pretending to have a War On Drugs.

If we want to talk about which drugs cause the most deaths, that would be cigarettes.
 
There is no mental impairment from cigarettes. None. No one ever got into a car accident because they were high on cigarettes.
 
no
And that drink asshole killing children is any better? Should we ban booze? Thousands of people die every year from booze.

Think about it.

If it were up to me I would ban booze as well. It didn't work before, but I wish government would at least not condone it's use.
Here in Oregon, we have whats called "OLCC" Oregon Liquor Control Council.
Once this pot measure is approved, our state will not only be in the alcohol business, but will also be in the pot business.
Pretty damn disgusting.
You will get a lot of tax money now going to cartels.

Just treat DUI with fatality for what it is, murder.

Prohibition does not work, it only breeds crime.

We already know that.

You will get a lot of tax money now going to cartels.

not as much as one would think

Voters legalized retail marijuana (pot for everyone, not just medical patients) in 2012. And they were told the state wouldpull in $33.5 million from two new taxes in the first six months of 2014. It turns out, the projections were way off. Here's why.

Pot smokers are still buying on the black market: The state thought more people would migrate out of the black market. But only 60% of people who want pot in Colorado this year will buy it through legal channels, according to an estimate from the Marijuana Policy Group.

One big reason: Legal pot costs a lot more than illegal pot -- mostly because of taxes and fees.

Colorado s missing marijuana taxes - Sep. 2 2014
 
There is no mental impairment from cigarettes. None. No one ever got into a car accident because they were high on cigarettes.

I notice you conveniently and very dishonestly neglected to quote what I actually wrote which was not that cigarettes cause impairment.

Here's what I wrote:

If we want to talk about which drugs cause the most deaths, that would be cigarettes.

OTOH, how many fools run into things while fiddling with the ash that fell between their legs?
 
Drugs are more pernicious than alcohol.
Alcohol is a drug.
Would you like it better if I had said marijuana is more pernicious than alcohol? Okay.
Yes, because then you are actually saying something. What is your evidence that marijuana is more pernicious than alcohol? Thousands of people die as a result of alcohol overdoses every year, and thousands more die from alcohol-related deaths like drunk driving or alcohol-induced rage. Alcoholism is also a large factor contributing to domestic violence. Marijuana contributes to none of those things.
 
There is no mental impairment from cigarettes. None. No one ever got into a car accident because they were high on cigarettes.

I notice you conveniently and very dishonestly neglected to quote what I actually wrote which was not that cigarettes cause impairment.

Here's what I wrote:

If we want to talk about which drugs cause the most deaths, that would be cigarettes.

OTOH, how many fools run into things while fiddling with the ash that fell between their legs?

Not as many as those who get high and kill 7 year old kids.
 
There is no mental impairment from cigarettes. None. No one ever got into a car accident because they were high on cigarettes.

I notice you conveniently and very dishonestly neglected to quote what I actually wrote which was not that cigarettes cause impairment.

Here's what I wrote:

If we want to talk about which drugs cause the most deaths, that would be cigarettes.

OTOH, how many fools run into things while fiddling with the ash that fell between their legs?

Not as many as those who get high and kill 7 year old kids.
Really? Do you have evidence of this? Or are you just cherry picking this anecdotal story, which many say involved not only marijuana but alcohol?
 
There is no mental impairment from cigarettes. None. No one ever got into a car accident because they were high on cigarettes.

Hmmm I wonder if that is actually true- because cigarettes certainly are a mood altering drug.

http://www.dapinghospital.com/sci/sjnk/8.pdf

The prevalence rate of cognitive
impairment was 5.3% in those who had never smoked,
4.5% in past smokers, and 11.8% in current smokers.
After adjusting for age, sex, education level and drinking,
current smokers were at a significantly higher risk of
cognitive impairment than those who had never smoked


And apparently the rate of automobile accidents goes up with cigarette smokers:

Risk of automobile accidents in cigarette smokers. - PubMed - NCBI
Assessment of relative risk estimates (RR) and adjustment for confounding factors was done by logistic regression analysis. Smokers had a 1.5-fold increase in risk for MVC over non-smokers (p = .01). Also, an increased tendency to smoke while driving was associated with greater risk of MVC (X2 trend: p = .01). The basis for this association may be: 1. distraction from driving by the act of smoking. 2. behavioural differences between smokers and non-smokers. 3. carbon-monoxide toxicity.

Maybe no one has gotten into a car accident because they are high on cigarettes, but certainly drivers have gotten into accidents because they were smoking cigarettes.
 

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