President declares: Every gun that is made, every warship launched is a theft from the hungry

[-S-]

Just because I'm not a republican doesn't mean that I can't respect a man for his contributions to this world and our nation.

Not everyone is so set on only approving or respecting only those who agree with them.

Teddy Roosevelt was also a republican and I respect him too.

So was Abraham Lincoln. He saved our nation and ended slavery. I have a lot of respect for him.

I've been a registered Independent since I first registered to vote in July 1978. I'm a liberal. I don't vote for a party. I vote for the person who most agrees with my views. No matter what party they're in.

It's interesting to know that Eisenhower's children have left the republican party and are Independents like I am.

If Eisenhower or someone like him was running on the republican ticket, I would consider voting for them. Just as I would consider voting for a democrat. Or an Independent or a Green party member.

That's the advantage of being an Independent. We think for ourselves and vote for the person who we agree with most. Not a party. We also aren't consumed with hate for our fellow Americans and don't believe they're our enemy.

It's too bad you right wingers are so consumed with hate.

You could at least properly educate yourselves so you don't keep making fools of yourselves and show everyone how so little you actually know about American Presidential history.

You picked three of the most liberal Republican presidents to use as examples. If the current GOP read Teddy's 1912 presidential platform, they would blow his face off Mt Rushmore tomorrow haha.


Is it any coincidence that at least two of those three are always near the top of a 'Greatest Presidents' poll (in the company of FDR )?
I think not. History reflects fondly on progressive change.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

43 cents out of every dollar spent on earth for defense is spent by the US

That is alot of hospitals, schools, roads that don't get built

Think if those dollars were spent on medical and technical research instead of weapons systems

Imagine the trillions wasted of welfare and how many hospitals, schools, roads etc that could have been built.

Is helping American people wasted money?

Not at all. 10 trillion later and we have record amounts of people on welfare. Obviously, that's no glaring success. If you consider that success then the bar must be low enough to allow a virus through.

How much have we spent on the military....yet we still have wars

I would rather spend money on helping AMERICANS than in fighting senseless wars around the globe

We are spending trillions on americans and we are fighting senseless wars around the globe and neither is working.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ike was a great President, the last sane republican

But your favorite president is still Kim Jong Un, right assclown Batshit?

 

[rightwinger]

43 cents out of every dollar spent on earth for defense is spent by the US

That is alot of hospitals, schools, roads that don't get built

Think if those dollars were spent on medical and technical research instead of weapons systems

Imagine the trillions wasted of welfare and how many hospitals, schools, roads etc that could have been built.

Is helping American people wasted money?

Not at all. 10 trillion later and we have record amounts of people on welfare. Obviously, that's no glaring success. If you consider that success then the bar must be low enough to allow a virus through.

How much have we spent on the military....yet we still have wars

I would rather spend money on helping AMERICANS than in fighting senseless wars around the globe

We are spending trillions on americans and we are fighting senseless wars around the globe and neither is working.

Unless we send those poor people to fight our wars for us

That has always worked in the past

 

[Skull Pilot]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Unless we send those poor people to fight our wars for us

That has always worked in the past

Fighting wars was the only way the poor could escape poverty, before capitalism took hold. Now that you are ending capitalism, it will again be the only way up.

Progressives, progressing back to the dark ages.....

 

[rightwinger]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

 

[Skull Pilot]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

 

[rightwinger]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

The reason so many are "on the dole" is because Capitalists have stopped paying a living wage

The "shame" should be on those employers who do not pay a living wage for full time employment

 

[Skull Pilot]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

The reason so many are "on the dole" is because Capitalists have stopped paying a living wage

it's because it's easier than ever to get on the dole.

And we can rehash the old what jobs are worth 15 an hour again if you want.

The problem is you people think that one 40 hour a week job should be all anyone needs. If you can't make it on one job then you have options.

You can get a second job or you can increase your skills so as to earn a higher wage.

That's the way it's always been. And the way it should stay

 

[Little-Acorn]

President declares: Every gun that is made, every warship launched is a theft from the hungry


When he said that in 1953, did he also mention what the cost of socialism spreading across the globe, would be?

How many would go hungry as workers fell into sloth and did their jobs half-heartedly?

How many would starve when crops failed and they found they had no reserve? No rich an idle nation to supply the food they lack?

How many would die when emergencies happened and no ambulances were available? No fire trucks? Roads were inadequate for relief to get to the stricken location?

A military costs less than those things... because when government becomes socialistic, all of those things start affecting the entire country.

 

[rightwinger]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

The reason so many are "on the dole" is because Capitalists have stopped paying a living wage

it's because it's easier than ever to get on the dole.

And we can rehash the old what jobs are worth 15 an hour again if you want.

The problem is you people think that one 40 hour a week job should be all anyone needs. If you can't make it on one job then you have options.

You can get a second job or you can increase your skills so as to earn a higher wage.

That's the way it's always been. And the way it should stay

Jobs that used to allow workers to support their family no longer do
That is why more workers are "on the dole"

Conservatives would rather have the taxpayer pick up the slack than expect corporations to support those who make them their money

 

[Dragonlady]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

That's because idiots like you don't want to raise the minimum wage or otherwise pay hardworking Americans a decent wage for their work.

When working men and women can support their families with the wages they earn, then you can complain about welfare. But as long as you support a ridiculously low MW, you're going to have to supplement those wages with tax dollars.

Pick your poison.

 

[Skull Pilot]

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

Using taxpayer money to build bombers is ....Patriotism

Using taxpayer money to feed and house Americans is.......Socialism

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

That's because idiots like you don't want to raise the minimum wage or otherwise pay hardworking Americans a decent wage for their work.

When working men and women can support their families with the wages they earn, then you can complain about welfare. But as long as you support a ridiculously low MW, you're going to have to supplement those wages with tax dollars.

Pick your poison.

When you can give me a cogent argument as to why a zero skill job like putting crap into a bag is worth 15 an hour then maybe we'll be able to get somewhere.

It doesn't matter what the minimum wage is since it is only a starting point. You people want to make it the finish line

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Universal healthcare, Universal education, and Universal infrastructure spending is what we need !

Lol

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yup.

There is an obligation for the government to act in defense of the nation.

There is no obligation to clothe, feed and house everyone.

That's the responsibility of the individual.

But then again I'm sure you would love to live in the utopian nanny state where the government owns every residence and parcels them out to the public. Everyone must have the exact same square footage.

We could get rid of those environment destroying cars and issue everyone an identical bike with a basket on the front.

You would be told what to eat because you would have your calories rationed

AHH Paradise.

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

The reason so many are "on the dole" is because Capitalists have stopped paying a living wage

it's because it's easier than ever to get on the dole.

And we can rehash the old what jobs are worth 15 an hour again if you want.

The problem is you people think that one 40 hour a week job should be all anyone needs. If you can't make it on one job then you have options.

You can get a second job or you can increase your skills so as to earn a higher wage.

That's the way it's always been. And the way it should stay

Jobs that used to allow workers to support their family no longer do
That is why more workers are "on the dole"

Conservatives would rather have the taxpayer pick up the slack than expect corporations to support those who make them their money

Adapt or die.

I worked 2 jobs most of my working career and it paid off for me in the long run.

I never expected anyone to give me anything neither should anyone else.

 

[paulitician]

Americans love their War. Can't live without it. In that respect, they have quite a bit in common with violent gangs like Al Qaeda and ISIS. It's a blood lust. And Americans have been raised on it. It is what it is.

What a stupid, stupid thing to say. Fuck you comparing Americans to terrorists.

Americans worship violence and War. Their lives would seem empty without it. It's all they know. It's a blood lust. Violent gangs like Al Qaeda, ISIS, and others, also have that blood lust. Just stating reality.

 

[rightwinger]

There is nothing in our great Constitution that says the Government cannot help ...We the People

There is also nothing in the Constitution that says the US has to spend 43 cents out of every global war dollar

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

The reason so many are "on the dole" is because Capitalists have stopped paying a living wage

it's because it's easier than ever to get on the dole.

And we can rehash the old what jobs are worth 15 an hour again if you want.

The problem is you people think that one 40 hour a week job should be all anyone needs. If you can't make it on one job then you have options.

You can get a second job or you can increase your skills so as to earn a higher wage.

That's the way it's always been. And the way it should stay

Jobs that used to allow workers to support their family no longer do
That is why more workers are "on the dole"

Conservatives would rather have the taxpayer pick up the slack than expect corporations to support those who make them their money

Adapt or die.

I worked 2 jobs most of my working career and it paid off for me in the long run.

I never expected anyone to give me anything neither should anyone else.

Good answer

Now can you show me 100 million "second jobs" that everyone else can fill?

 

[Skull Pilot]

The government helps plenty.

So much in fact that it's too easy to get on the dole and we are encouraged to accept it rather than disdain it.

Too bad there isn't the old stigma attached to welfare as there used to be.

A good dose of shame might motivate people to get off the dole

The reason so many are "on the dole" is because Capitalists have stopped paying a living wage

it's because it's easier than ever to get on the dole.

And we can rehash the old what jobs are worth 15 an hour again if you want.

The problem is you people think that one 40 hour a week job should be all anyone needs. If you can't make it on one job then you have options.

You can get a second job or you can increase your skills so as to earn a higher wage.

That's the way it's always been. And the way it should stay

Jobs that used to allow workers to support their family no longer do
That is why more workers are "on the dole"

Conservatives would rather have the taxpayer pick up the slack than expect corporations to support those who make them their money

Adapt or die.

I worked 2 jobs most of my working career and it paid off for me in the long run.

I never expected anyone to give me anything neither should anyone else.

Good answer

Now can you show me 100 million "second jobs" that everyone else can fill?

Show me 100 million people who want to work a second job

People don't want to work more than 40 hours a week
They don't want to miss a break or a holiday
They don't want to do more than is expected of them
They don't want to do anything that is "not their job"

Yet they all want to get ahead.

I find that funny why don't you?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

America has historically averaged spending 4-4.5% of GDP on the military.
That ranked us 14th overall last year.

5% would be a better target.