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Almost time for the GOP adults to again ignore the brainwashed tinfoil twit "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" (TIME)...

can you tell us the last time the DNC compromised on something the GOP wanted?
Yes, the BUDGET- about 3 weeks ago. And have tried a million times over the last 5 years. ACA IS A COMPROMISE- THE PUB PLAN.

Far left propaganda from a far left drone..
Good question

Are they better off on wages? No
Are they better off on retirement savings? Yes
Are they better off on healthcare? yes

Overall.....about even

So, why are Republicans going to block these initiatives to finally do something for working Americans?

Because they have to protect the one percent

Now THAT is an amusing answer!

A whole lot of the Middle Class have had their retirement savings savaged by being out of work for record amounts of time and the value of real estate they own is still lagging far behind what it used to be. Hard to see how anyone's retirement savings is better off under Barry's six years.

As for healthcare? The Middle Class was told that they would be saving money because of the ACA. That was a lie. They will be expected to pay more for the ACA because someone has to pick up the tab for all of the subsidies for the poor.
Fer chrissake dupe, you're blaming Obama for Booosh's 2nd Great Pub Depression, AND Pubs blocking a full recovery for four years. Then ACA is supposed to perform miracles IMMEDIATELY (it just kept price hike to 3%) even WITH Pubs screwing it up in red states...OK, give us more destructive Pub fear mongering BULLSHYTTE propaganda.

Propaganda? You progressives told Middle Class Americans that the ACA would save an average family about $2,500 a year in healthcare costs and that was a total LIE! The healthcare costs for the average Middle Class American have gone up sharply! Many of the 8,000,000 Americans who lost their old health care plans because they didn't meet ObamaCare guidelines are now faced with either paying extremely high rates for worse coverage than they had before...or paying a penalty for not having any coverage at all because they can't afford it!
Nobody said immediately- wait a few years ferchrissake.. And the reports you believe are Pubcrappe. ACTUAL rates are up less than 5%- record low increases, even including red states.

In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year….. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as President of the United States.” Barack Obama, June 5th, 2008
The "it" they'll get done by 2012 is the ACA itself. As always, the Pub propaganda machine takes things out of context and runs with it. For hater dupes only.

ACA is a bare framework that sets up transparent competition between insurers and WILL bring costs down and work just fine, and will be tinkered with forever. It did as much as it could, and still pass. DUH.
 
You want the middle class to be revitalized, reduce taxes and regulations so companies can manufacture more in this country. As manufacturing goes so goes the middle class.

Reduce taxes for whom? Which regulations?

We are talking about manufactures aren't we, and when a company needs a bank of lawyers and compliance officers just to keep up with the epa and osha regulations what's the point in staying in the US? Bureaucrats churning out regulations just to justify their jobs are driving companies offshore, that trend needs to be reversed.
 
The truth that Franco will never admit to...is that the ACA was never about lowering healthcare costs for the American Middle Class...it was always about providing healthcare for the poor and having the Middle Class pay for most of it.



The truth you will never admit to it that the insurance companies (who Republicans support mightily and vice versa) wrote the ACA for their benefit and do you ever hear of the insurance companies complaining about all this new business? Fuck no. And the monies pour into those political war chests and you Republicans have your hands out for that money and your politicians give you lip service all the way to the fund raiser being held by the insurance industry for those same politicians who are giving you lip service.

You being played for a fool dude. Republican have no intention of doing away with the ACA. They make way to much money from both sides. The insurance company gives them money and you fools give them money.
Fucking nuts is what this situation is.

With all due respect, Zeke...the ACA contains a clause where the insurance companies will be compensated by the Federal Government if their costs are higher than anticipated due to the ACA. That wasn't something that was given to them by the GOP...that was something that was granted to them by the Obama Administration, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

Actually that particular provision was removed in the Omnibus bill, another GOP success story.
 
With all due respect, Zeke...the ACA contains a clause where the insurance companies will be compensated by the Federal Government if their costs are higher than anticipated due to the ACA. That wasn't something that was given to them by the GOP.



With all due respect (this is interesting) the provision you mentioned was inserted by the insurance companies.

Did you know that the two main Congressional staffers charged with writing this bullshit legislation BOTH had careers in the insurance industry? Why what a strange coincidence that a provision that protects the insurance companies from loss would be inserted by staffers from the insurance industry.

And you are correct. The Republicans shirked their responsibility to participate in the legislative process. Maybe had they been constructively engaged in the bill writing process, we might have a better piece of legislation.

Repubs are guilty by omission in this mess. Dems are guilty in allowing the insurance companies to write the legislation.

All Americans except the ultra wealthy and Insurance company executives (they are one and the same) got fucked by this legislation.

Single payer for all is the answer.

Wait a second...let me see if I'm following your logic here, Zeke...

First you accuse the GOP of writing legislation favorable to the insurance industry...then when it's pointed out to you that the deal that promised to reimburse the insurance companies with taxpayer money if they didn't make the profits they expected was one that was done by Democrats...you accuse the Republicans of guilt by omission?

Then you declare that "everyone" got fucked by the legislation that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi cobbled together and Barack Obama signed...and what we REALLY need is single payer? If what we needed was single payer...then why didn't you Progressives pass that?
 
And the staffers that wrote the ACA were not staffers for the insurance industry...they were staffers for Democrats in Congress!
 
How can someone with a 401k that saw the stock market rise from 6600 to over 17000 not have made money under Obama?

Because a 401K does not increase in value simply because the Dow is up. That you're even asking this shows you probably don't even know what a 401K is, or how it works.

Wait.......don't tell me

You actually have to invest your 401k in stocks to reap the benefits of the market?

You must be some kind of investment genius
 
Just shows AGAIN that the richest make way too much of the country's money.

1) only a libcommie would think it was the country's money rather than the money of those who earned it in free, voluntary transactions

2) if you don't want them to have so much money you are free not to buy their products.

3) instead a violent Nazi liberal will seek to take their money away at the point of a gun.
 
Just shows AGAIN that the richest make way too much of the country's money.

1) only a libcommie would think it was the country's money rather than the money of those who earned it in free, voluntary transactions

2) if you don't want them to have so much money you are free not to buy their products.

3) instead a violent Nazi liberal will seek to take their money away at the point of a gun.

the top 1% pay 40% of taxes now. In a libcommie world they would pay 100% and the bottom 99% would have no skin in the game, pay no taxes, and have every incentive to always raise taxes on other people. Welcome to the USSR/USA.

Is it a surprise that liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin
 
Just shows AGAIN that the richest make way too much of the country's money.

1) only a libcommie would think it was the country's money rather than the money of those who earned it in free, voluntary transactions

2) if you don't want them to have so much money you are free not to buy their products.

3) instead a violent Nazi liberal will seek to take their money away at the point of a gun.

the top 1% pay 40% of taxes now. In a libcommie world they would pay 100% and the bottom 99% would have no skin in the game, pay no taxes, and have every incentive to always raise taxes on other people. Welcome to the USSR/USA.

Is it a surprise that liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin
They also get 95% of the growth in wealth, so obviously they aren't taxed enough, and the nonrich too much. see sig pp1. And it's been going on for years, brainwashed chump of the greedy idiot rich GOP.

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 30 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = 404
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2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis BEA
4 = http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/household-sector-debt-of-gdp
4 = FRB Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--September 18 2014
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts
 
They also get 95% of the growth in wealth,

1) dear, taxes are based on income, not growth in wealth.

2) 95% is stupid idiotic liberal lie that only a total illiterate would believe. Henry Ford and Steve jobs earned pennies for each car and iphone they sold. 99% of the wealth they created went to their customers to vastly improve their standatrds of living. Now even a total illiterate liberal can understand the beauty of capitalism.
 
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The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

1) liberal taxes force corporation off shore
2) liberal unions force corporations
3) liberal social policies destroy the family rendering most unfit for middle class life
4) liberal social policies destroyed the schools rendering most not educated enough for middle class life
5) liberal invite in 20 million illegals to take what jobs that remain and drive down waged
6) liberal deficits create trade imbalances
 
The truth that Franco will never admit to...is that the ACA was never about lowering healthcare costs for the American Middle Class...it was always about providing healthcare for the poor and having the Middle Class pay for most of it.

The reason why people like Peter Gruber felt it was necessary to lie about the ACA was that he understood what the reaction would be when the Middle Class found out that their costs would be going up substantially. It's why key components of the ACA kept getting put off until the next election...Democrats were scared to death that the voters would figure out how badly they'd been lied to.

You sound like a scab for the insurance companies.
 
The truth that Franco will never admit to...is that the ACA was never about lowering healthcare costs for the American Middle Class...it was always about providing healthcare for the poor and having the Middle Class pay for most of it.

The reason why people like Peter Gruber felt it was necessary to lie about the ACA was that he understood what the reaction would be when the Middle Class found out that their costs would be going up substantially. It's why key components of the ACA kept getting put off until the next election...Democrats were scared to death that the voters would figure out how badly they'd been lied to.

You sound like a scab for the insurance companies.

How does telling the truth about who's going to end up paying for the ACA make me a "scab" for the insurance companies?

The insurance companies worked themselves a sweetheart deal with the Democrats. They're protected. If you're a Middle Class American you are not! For many of the eight million that lost their insurance under ObamaCare that will mean choosing between expensive plans with high deductibles or going without insurance and paying ever increasing fines.
 
That was the big lie that Obama and his people used to "sell" the Affordable Care Act to the American people.

My cost hasn't risen anymore than it's risen previously.

This whole thing was sold to us as the way to lower costs...if your costs haven't gone down (and the real costs of the ACA haven't hit yet!) then why have we bothered with this in the first place? Your President promised you a savings of $2,500 a year if you're a typical Middle Class family of four. That was total bullshit and they knew it. They lied to you because they knew if they told the American public the truth...that they would howl in protest over what was being done.
 
And quite frankly, 1%er...if your costs haven't gone up? You're part of the target audience for ObamaCare...the poor. You're getting a freebie. Enjoy it while you try not to think of the people who will be paying your share.
 
OK USMB Conservatives........

Do you support tax breaks for the middle class?
 

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