President Trump announces new tariffs: 25% for steel, 10% for aluminum

[Wickerthing]

Conservatives now support artificially setting the price for commodities. Conservative socialism is hitting it's stride. Other ways cons meddle in the free market? Punishing a company like Delta for making decisions that they think are best for their bottom line. And of course steering government contracts to their friends and family, their donators, to the tune of billions of dollars, even though their friends can't do the job.

Yeah, what's with this Delta thing and the NRA? Pretty shady stuff.

How is it "shady?"

Read for yourself. I don't have time to educate the un- educateable.

Georgia Passes Bill That Stings Delta Over N.R.A. Position

Since you didn't answer the question, I'll ask again: How is it "shady?"

Read the article.

 

[busybee01]

Thank you Mr. President and it’s about time.
Administration Action on Steel and Aluminum Vital to Protecting National Security

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Fuck them too. If they are our allies they would not be screwing us over now would they?

They are not screwing us over. I have a trade deficit with Walmart and Dollar Tree to name a couple. Consumers want products from other countries. Trump is screwing 144 million workers in steel using industries as well as millions of American consumers. You are in-American just like Trump.

 

[Bush92]

Thank you Mr. President and it’s about time.
Administration Action on Steel and Aluminum Vital to Protecting National Security

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Could you imagine if Canada and Mexico hot say, lumber with a tariff? Cali, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas would feel that pinch big time.

Lumber shortage is because China is buying it all up from North America because they are In an economic boom.Why? Because they have our manufacturing jobs. Their middle class is growing.

 

[busybee01]

Wilbur Ross says you will only pay hundreds more every year. Sounds like Nancy Pelosi talking about crumbs. So much for some people's tax cuts.

We will probably pay less than $100 total every year.

Quite picking numbers out of your head.

 

[Bush92]

China is the enemy and so is Russia. Dip shits in 1930’s allowed Germany, Italy, and Japan to rise same way. Unreal the ignorance of people. Wall Street $$$ overriding our historical national security challenge.

 

[Rambunctious]

 

[Wickerthing]

Thank you Mr. President and it’s about time.
Administration Action on Steel and Aluminum Vital to Protecting National Security

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Fuck them too. If they are our allies they would not be screwing us over now would they?

Yeah but I thought this was about China. That's who the proposed tariffs are supposed to push back against. Just saying it doesn't get that job done.

 

[undertherqadar]

Trump was angry and 'unglued' when he started a trade war, officials say
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On Wednesday evening, the president became "unglued," in the words of one official familiar with the president's state of mind.

A trifecta of events had set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election, conduct by his embattled attorney general and the treatment of his son-in-law by his chief of staff.

Trump, the two officials said, was angry and gunning for a fight, and he chose a trade war, spurred on by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Peter Navarro, the White House director for trade — and against longstanding advice from his economic chair Gary Cohn and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin.

 

[busybee01]

Thank you Mr. President and it’s about time.
Administration Action on Steel and Aluminum Vital to Protecting National Security

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Could you imagine if Canada and Mexico hot say, lumber with a tariff? Cali, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas would feel that pinch big time.

Lumber shortage is because China is buying it all up from North America because they are In an economic boom.Why? Because they have our manufacturing jobs. Their middle class is growing.

There is a lumber shortage because Trump started another trade war. Because of this lumber is in short supply and the prices have skyrocketed. This could lead to a $8,000 increase in new home prices. Shutting off Canadian wood did not lead to increased supply. Just higher prices. Take your shit somewhere else moron.

 

[busybee01]

Trump was angry and 'unglued' when he started a trade war, officials say

Trump has a temper tantrum over other things and takes it out on Americans. Trump must go in 2020.

 

[busybee01]

Thank you Mr. President and it’s about time.
Administration Action on Steel and Aluminum Vital to Protecting National Security

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

China only supplies 4% of our steel. How is this going to hit them? Try educating yourself moron.,

 

[Wry Catcher]

"Breaking: EU's Juncker says the bloc will react to the proposed U.S. steel action with tariffs on motorcycles (Harley-Davidson), bourbon whiskey and blue jeans."

Motorcycles, Bourbon Whiskey, & Blue Jeans is a country song!

Harley Davidson is already in trouble, in that their sales have been dropping seriously due to their aging market. This could finish them off.

Q. Who is their target

A. McConnell (Whiskey) and Ryan (Motorcycles)

...and we haven't even heard from China and Canada yet.

True. Trump's latest disaster adds to an already chaotic White House; no one seems ready to step in and stop what has become an impending train wreck.

Is Trump failing to generate effective psychological coping mechanisms in is he decompensating?

Pence is worthless, Ryan is worthless and McConnell is worthless. Who else can step up and lead a movement to invoke the 25th Amendment? Not the swamp critters he nominated and the senate confirmed.

Is there no hero anywhere in The District who will put our country first?

 

[busybee01]

Nice to hear from liberal and conservative dickheads that have never worked on heavy industry...never got their precious fucking pussy assed hands calloused in their lives...look down on the American worker. The “ Greatest Generation” did it because of our manufacturing base. Dumb bastards.

Why don't you shut up with your class warfare. The fact is that jobs have been lost to automation and increased worker productivity. That is not going to change. Apparently you look down on them you piece of trash.

 

[Bush92]

Thank you Mr. President and it’s about time.
Administration Action on Steel and Aluminum Vital to Protecting National Security

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Fuck them too. If they are our allies they would not be screwing us over now would they?

They are not screwing us over. I have a trade deficit with Walmart and Dollar Tree to name a couple. Consumers want products from other countries. Trump is screwing 144 million workers in steel using industries as well as millions of American consumers. You are in-American just like Trump.

What about the millions of jobs that have been lost in “steel production industry “ you Democratic Party mouthpiece. Retail jobs don’t replace manufacturing jobs and the income. If you think the greatest nation on earth can swap a steel mill job out with a “Welcome to Wal Mart” job and remain a global superpower then you are either naive or stupid.

 

[Asclepias]

Thank you Mr. President and it’s about time.
Administration Action on Steel and Aluminum Vital to Protecting National Security

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Fuck them too. If they are our allies they would not be screwing us over now would they?

Yeah but I thought this was about China. That's who the proposed tariffs are supposed to push back against. Just saying it doesn't get that job done.

China will just make it back by raising the interest rates on our loans.

 

[Bush92]

Nice to hear from liberal and conservative dickheads that have never worked on heavy industry...never got their precious fucking pussy assed hands calloused in their lives...look down on the American worker. The “ Greatest Generation” did it because of our manufacturing base. Dumb bastards.

Why don't you shut up with your class warfare. The fact is that jobs have been lost to automation and increased worker productivity. That is not going to change.

It’s not automation that lost those jobs. It’s poor policies and utter foreign policy stupidity. So, how many hours you worked in manufacturing? Oh..none? So blue collar workers are just simple numbers to you? Fuck em huh. Fuck their families? Fuck the fact their men stood up and fought for this nation and died. You are one simple sonofabitch aren’t you? You sound like that idiot Scarborough.

 

[Bush92]

And what’s the bonus for We American consumers? Will we maybe pay more for cars? The tariffs are on aluminum to. Lots of shit is going to cost more because we know American steel manufacturers will jack up prices even though the shit is made right here. So aside from union hacks east of the Mississippi, how does this bennifet me, a non union consumer of products made of steel and aluminum? And why no tariff of food products and beef from south of the border and lumber north of the border? What's the net plus for consumers of those products who will also be affected by the tariffs on steel and aluminum?

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Fuck them too. If they are our allies they would not be screwing us over now would they?

Yeah but I thought this was about China. That's who the proposed tariffs are supposed to push back against. Just saying it doesn't get that job done.

China will just make it back by raising the interest rates on our loans.

Don’t have to pay when we cut em off to our market.

 

[Asclepias]

Nice to hear from liberal and conservative dickheads that have never worked on heavy industry...never got their precious fucking pussy assed hands calloused in their lives...look down on the American worker. The “ Greatest Generation” did it because of our manufacturing base. Dumb bastards.

Why don't you shut up with your class warfare. The fact is that jobs have been lost to automation and increased worker productivity. That is not going to change.

It’s not automation that lost those jobs. It’s poor policies and utter foreign policy stupidity. So, how many hours you worked in manufacturing? Oh..none? So blue collar workers are just simple numbers to you? Fuck em huh. Fuck their families? Fuck the fact their men stood up and fought for this nation and died. You are one simple sonofabitch aren’t you? You sound like that idiot Scarborough.

Damn you got pretty fake patriotic and self righteous there.

 

[Asclepias]

China builds a larger military and takes your life away from you.

I would probably agree with much of what you say but these Tariffs don't effect China hardly at all. It punishes our strong allies in Canada and Mexico and Brazil and S Korea. So, this stuff is aimed squarely at the wrong folks. And, if this actually happens, we will face similar tariffs from those folks and others while China is barely touched. Not to mention the inflation sure to follow.

Fuck them too. If they are our allies they would not be screwing us over now would they?

Yeah but I thought this was about China. That's who the proposed tariffs are supposed to push back against. Just saying it doesn't get that job done.

China will just make it back by raising the interest rates on our loans.

Don’t have to pay when we cut em off to our market.

I guess you dont how loans work. Figures.

 

[busybee01]

Conservatives now support artificially setting the price for commodities. Conservative socialism is hitting it's stride. Other ways cons meddle in the free market? Punishing a company like Delta for making decisions that they think are best for their bottom line. And of course steering government contracts to their friends and family, their donators, to the tune of billions of dollars, even though their friends can't do the job.

All this has been tried before. The Soviet's had a planned economy all the way from 1920 to 1980. They, two artificially tried to change the economics of the free enterprise system.

What is "all this?" A couple of tariffs turns us into a planned economy?

Yes it does. The effects of this are wide reaching. 144 million workers in steel producing industries will be hurt. Millions more consumers will be hurt.