NYcarbineer
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lol, doesn't Trump realize that premiums are now going up on HIS watch?
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Nothing has been done to ACA.
Stop lying.
Trump and Republicans are directly responsible for major price increases for 2018.
Health insurers are asking state regulators to approve giant rate increases for 2018 individual policies, in part because they don't yet know if the Trump administration plans to help or hurt the Affordable Care Act's health insurance exchanges.
Insurers in the three states that have published requested rates say their double-digit hikes, which exceed 50% in some cases, may climb even higher if the federal government doesn't take steps to ease their jitters over ACA repeal-and-replace efforts by funding cost-sharing reduction subsidies and enforcing the mandate that requires most people to enroll in coverage. The sky-high increases, though not final, would leave health insurance unaffordable for many Americans.
Health insurers' proposed 2018 rate hikes are early 'warning signs'
Pennsylvania insurers offering Obamacare plans will need to raise premiums an average 30.6 percent in 2018, nearly four times the increase that had been anticipated before President Donald Trump scrapped government subsidiesfive days ago.
Pa. insurance department says Obamacare rates to rise 30.6 percent
'It will not cost a dime'
'It WILL PAY FOR ITSELF'
'It will result in LOWER premiums'.
Why yes, just as the treasonous fat senile old orange clown arranged. Sorry, but you assholes own all the shortcomings of the ACA now. Not only did you not repeal and replace it, you bastards have done everything you could to make it a failure. You own it now.That sound you all just heard was oldrocks and bizzybee running away from the Democrats' scheme at top speed with their tails clamped firmly between their hind legs, shouting silly excuses over their shoulders and trying to blame others for their own party's failures and unwillingness to change them.It is owned by Trump and the Republicans. Voters are not stupid and have seen every Republican attempt to undermine it. They will turn on Republicans.
Three Republicans voted No on the bill to change Obamacare. But 48 Democrats did the same. Pretending that refusing to change it was Republicans' fault, is absurd. But typical of today's hysterical mindset of the Left.
What snowflakes hate about this quote more than anything is that the President is right."ObamaCare premiums are going up, up, up, just as I have been predicting for two years. ObamaCare is OWNED by the Democrats, and it is a disaster.
Obama destroyed the existing health care system, lied to the American people, and the Democrats rammed this 'disaster' into law, down the throats of a majority of Americans who opposed it....and it 'still sits on their mantle' as one of the 'victories' they had when they held a near super majority control of Congress.
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So you admit you knew Obama was full of shit when he said that?My gosh, Obama said it himself.It was supposed to lower premiums $2500 a year. Another Obama lie you swallowed.Since premiums go up constantly and have for years, that's quite the bold prediction you made. lol
You lie.
You lied about me, as usual.
Nothing has been done to ACA.
Stop lying.
Trump and Republicans are directly responsible for major price increases for 2018.
Health insurers are asking state regulators to approve giant rate increases for 2018 individual policies, in part because they don't yet know if the Trump administration plans to help or hurt the Affordable Care Act's health insurance exchanges.
Insurers in the three states that have published requested rates say their double-digit hikes, which exceed 50% in some cases, may climb even higher if the federal government doesn't take steps to ease their jitters over ACA repeal-and-replace efforts by funding cost-sharing reduction subsidies and enforcing the mandate that requires most people to enroll in coverage. The sky-high increases, though not final, would leave health insurance unaffordable for many Americans.
Health insurers' proposed 2018 rate hikes are early 'warning signs'
Pennsylvania insurers offering Obamacare plans will need to raise premiums an average 30.6 percent in 2018, nearly four times the increase that had been anticipated before President Donald Trump scrapped government subsidiesfive days ago.
Pa. insurance department says Obamacare rates to rise 30.6 percent
'It will not cost a dime'
'It WILL PAY FOR ITSELF'
'It will result in LOWER premiums'
AS PREDICTEDWHEN OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE PUSHING THESE LIES, long before they rammed it into law, NON-PARTISAN experts were pointing out how it was going to result in increased premiums.
Obama and the Democrats FORCED Americans to participate / buy Obamacare or face government-inflicted monetary punishment AND paid Insurance Companies tax dollars while they were being paid by consumers, and this still could not prevent Insurance Companies from raising premiums - up to 100% in some areas, and / or prevent them from pulling out of markets altogether, leaving Americans with no insurance to purchase / insurance coverage.
When have premiums not gone up? When was the golden age of healthcare or which other countries system should we use as an example to model ours off of?"ObamaCare premiums are going up, up, up, just as I have been predicting for two years. ObamaCare is OWNED by the Democrats, and it is a disaster. But do not worry. Even though the Dems want to Obstruct, we will Repeal & Replace right after Tax Cuts!" - Trump
I imagine Trump said this at Thanksgiving Dinner, thought it was a great line and then tweeted it out
You don't have a clue what is in that bill. Pelosi and Co. run their mouths and you just take it from there. Insurance companies kicked people off of their plans. They simply refused to insure.
Remember, before Obamacare, many, if not most, Republicans in the Appalachia area, like coal miners, had no healthcare at all."ObamaCare premiums are going up, up, up, just as I have been predicting for two years. ObamaCare is OWNED by the Democrats, and it is a disaster. But do not worry. Even though the Dems want to Obstruct, we will Repeal & Replace right after Tax Cuts!" - Trump
I imagine Trump said this at Thanksgiving Dinner, thought it was a great line and then tweeted it out
Tthe reason plans on the exchange have jumped 30-50% is primarily due to Pres Trump reneging the cost sharing reduction subsidy to the insurance companies the gvt had been providing to help pay for the poorest's deductibles and out of pocket expenses...and due to the insecurity Trump and the Republicans have brought to the insurance market with threats of repeals, yet no action or workable new plan./----/ " that Trump so FOOLISHLY repealed v" What part of illegal do you not understand. The entire Obzocare is built on smoke and mirrors including the subsidies.President Trump did this, by a stroke of a pen and repealing the Cost Sharing Reduction subsidies for the poorest on the exchange....in order to give the the very poorest on the exchange the affordable silver plan which is Mandatory for them to do by law, but without the gvt CSR subsidy, the Insurance companies had to raise their premium rates for all others on the exchange...and get their money from the government through the subsidies of all the other people buying on the exchange are given...
these raised rates do NOT raise the prices for the people getting subsides on the exchange...they all still pay the same amount of money according to what they can afford...and the govt is picking up all of the rest, they are paying for the huge increase and as said, not the customers....
so the insurance companies are getting the money for the Cost Sharing Reduction subsidy that Trump so FOOLISHLY repealed via the pen, by raising the price of premiums by 30% to 40% on premiums, of which the government has to pay....
the government, saved nil by Trump's reneging the gvt subsidy for CSR plans for the poorest, because they are now paying for higher subsidy assistance for premium for everyone on the exchange.
YES, Trump;s sabotage not only cost us tax payers more money, but also added huge insecurity to the Insurance market.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/top-6-reasons-obamacare-is-probably-illegal/
My gosh, Obama said it himself.It was supposed to lower premiums $2500 a year. Another Obama lie you swallowed.Since premiums go up constantly and have for years, that's quite the bold prediction you made. lol
You lie.
/——/ False. He only recently repealed the illegal corporate welfare Obozo set up. The costs have been skyrocketing before Trump was elected to fix it.Tthe reason plans on the exchange have jumped 30-50% is primarily due to Pres Trump reneging the cost sharing reduction subsidy to the insurance companies the gvt had been providing to help pay for the poorest's deductibles and out of pocket expenses...and due to the insecurity Trump and the Republicans have brought to the insurance market with threats of repeals, yet no action or workable new plan./----/ " that Trump so FOOLISHLY repealed v" What part of illegal do you not understand. The entire Obzocare is built on smoke and mirrors including the subsidies.President Trump did this, by a stroke of a pen and repealing the Cost Sharing Reduction subsidies for the poorest on the exchange....in order to give the the very poorest on the exchange the affordable silver plan which is Mandatory for them to do by law, but without the gvt CSR subsidy, the Insurance companies had to raise their premium rates for all others on the exchange...and get their money from the government through the subsidies of all the other people buying on the exchange are given...
these raised rates do NOT raise the prices for the people getting subsides on the exchange...they all still pay the same amount of money according to what they can afford...and the govt is picking up all of the rest, they are paying for the huge increase and as said, not the customers....
so the insurance companies are getting the money for the Cost Sharing Reduction subsidy that Trump so FOOLISHLY repealed via the pen, by raising the price of premiums by 30% to 40% on premiums, of which the government has to pay....
the government, saved nil by Trump's reneging the gvt subsidy for CSR plans for the poorest, because they are now paying for higher subsidy assistance for premium for everyone on the exchange.
YES, Trump;s sabotage not only cost us tax payers more money, but also added huge insecurity to the Insurance market.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/top-6-reasons-obamacare-is-probably-illegal/
That's a fact!
/——/ False. He only recently repealed the illegal corporate welfare Obozo set up. The costs have been skyrocketing before Trump was elected to fix it.Tthe reason plans on the exchange have jumped 30-50% is primarily due to Pres Trump reneging the cost sharing reduction subsidy to the insurance companies the gvt had been providing to help pay for the poorest's deductibles and out of pocket expenses...and due to the insecurity Trump and the Republicans have brought to the insurance market with threats of repeals, yet no action or workable new plan./----/ " that Trump so FOOLISHLY repealed v" What part of illegal do you not understand. The entire Obzocare is built on smoke and mirrors including the subsidies.President Trump did this, by a stroke of a pen and repealing the Cost Sharing Reduction subsidies for the poorest on the exchange....in order to give the the very poorest on the exchange the affordable silver plan which is Mandatory for them to do by law, but without the gvt CSR subsidy, the Insurance companies had to raise their premium rates for all others on the exchange...and get their money from the government through the subsidies of all the other people buying on the exchange are given...
these raised rates do NOT raise the prices for the people getting subsides on the exchange...they all still pay the same amount of money according to what they can afford...and the govt is picking up all of the rest, they are paying for the huge increase and as said, not the customers....
so the insurance companies are getting the money for the Cost Sharing Reduction subsidy that Trump so FOOLISHLY repealed via the pen, by raising the price of premiums by 30% to 40% on premiums, of which the government has to pay....
the government, saved nil by Trump's reneging the gvt subsidy for CSR plans for the poorest, because they are now paying for higher subsidy assistance for premium for everyone on the exchange.
YES, Trump;s sabotage not only cost us tax payers more money, but also added huge insecurity to the Insurance market.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/top-6-reasons-obamacare-is-probably-illegal/
That's a fact!