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[TheGreatGatsby]

Now that we know that the government is spying on us constantly (or can spy on us so easily), many of us are searching for alternatives.

Duck Duck Go Dot com is a search engine that does not save your searches and at least for now, is not a tool of the government.

Great video in this article.

DuckDuckGo Search Engine Gets Boost After PRISM Scandal

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It is a matter of time before the NSA includes DuckDuck in it's clutches.
Wait and see.

 

[g5000]

It is a matter of time before the NSA includes DuckDuck in it's clutches.
Wait and see.

I guess you did not watch the video in the link.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It is a matter of time before the NSA includes DuckDuck in it's clutches.
Wait and see.

I guess you did not watch the video in the link.

Yes I am aware DD stores no data, what I mean is the NSA will apply pressure to lawmakers requiring search engines to at least temporarily store user data and use the national security card to make that happen.
If DD begins to be a real player in the search engine market (which they are far-far from now) you wait and see if the gubnent doesn't start prying at them.

 

[g5000]

It is a matter of time before the NSA includes DuckDuck in it's clutches.
Wait and see.

I guess you did not watch the video in the link.

Yes I am aware DD stores no data, what I mean is the NSA will apply pressure to lawmakers requiring search engines to at least temporarily store user data and use the national security card to make that happen.
If DD begins to be a real player in the search engine market (which they are far-far from now) you wait and see if the gubnent doesn't start prying at them.

No. The government will just make sure every action on the internet, including this post I am writing right now, is run through a government snooper and saved. They are already well along with this plan.

 

[konradv]

I'm a lot more concerned about companies(telemarketers, list sellers) and private individuals(identity thieves, phishers) spying on me, than the government. Also, I can't help but notice that many of the same people that applauded actions taken under the Patriot Act are now doing an about face. I hardly think it's a sudden change of heart over spying, but simply who's doing it.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

It is a matter of time before the NSA includes DuckDuck in it's clutches.
Wait and see.

I guess you did not watch the video in the link.

Yes I am aware DD stores no data, what I mean is the NSA will apply pressure to lawmakers requiring search engines to at least temporarily store user data and use the national security card to make that happen.
If DD begins to be a real player in the search engine market (which they are far-far from now) you wait and see if the gubnent doesn't start prying at them.

I share your skepticism. Google for a long time, seemingly put a premium on privacy. Then the government started giving them all types of sweetheart deals and getting in bed with them.

For now and for the foreseeable future, Go Duck is a viable alternative. Even if it's only a couple years of privacy; it beats feeding the Google machine in the interim.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I guess you did not watch the video in the link.

Yes I am aware DD stores no data, what I mean is the NSA will apply pressure to lawmakers requiring search engines to at least temporarily store user data and use the national security card to make that happen.
If DD begins to be a real player in the search engine market (which they are far-far from now) you wait and see if the gubnent doesn't start prying at them.

No. The government will just make sure every action on the internet, including this post I am writing right now, is run through a government snooper and saved. They are already well along with this plan.

Google did a 360. A VP wanted it law to outlaw anonymous posting. That's part of their joint plan with the government. To push that narrative and strike when the iron is hot.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I'm a lot more concerned about companies(telemarketers, list sellers) and private individuals(identity thieves, phishers) spying on me, than the government. Also, I can't help but notice that many of the same people that applauded actions taken under the Patriot Act are now doing an about face. I hardly think it's a sudden change of heart over spying, but simply who's doing it.

1. ID thieves can f you up. But why should I care about that relative to government spying? That's a red herring you're throwing out there.

2. Most conservatives were for the Patriot Act. How much can you fault them? The details of it weren't very accurately reported and we were in the midst of two wars and had 3K civilians killed. We were also being assured by the powers that be, that there were safeguards in place to prevent spying on everyday citizens. And the warrantless part of the act was barely being reported.

3. I find it much more fascinating that liberals have done an about face on the Patriot Act. This was Bush's evil sinister act. Yet, when Obama gets to office, you shrug and say ain't no big thing while he expands it? At least conservatives were tolerant of big govt. when it was extenuating circumstances. Liberals clearly embrace it fully, except when their guys aren't in power. Then they scream bloody murder about anything and everything. That's not principles. That's just the art of throwing a tantrum.

4. My point would be that whether you are conservative or liberal, you can be against the Patriot Act and government spying. Even if you're for big government, you don't have to put up with your privacy being so easily violated without any due process whatsoever.

 

[Cowman]

Why don't you traverse the dark internet.

I can't believe conservative assholes fought against Net Neutrality, and now they're up in arms about one of the things Net Neutrality was about preventing.

It's the TSA all over again.

 

[oldfart]

Yes I am aware DD stores no data, what I mean is the NSA will apply pressure to lawmakers requiring search engines to at least temporarily store user data and use the national security card to make that happen.
If DD begins to be a real player in the search engine market (which they are far-far from now) you wait and see if the gubnent doesn't start prying at them.

No. The government will just make sure every action on the internet, including this post I am writing right now, is run through a government snooper and saved. They are already well along with this plan.

My understanding is that there are two different stories about what NSA is doing and the government is trying to be coy about which one is true. For legal reasons they are claiming that they relay on existing published case law regarding mail. There is no expectation of privacy regarding what is written on the outside of an envelope (mainly address and return address with postmark) so any police agency can get this information from the post office (or common carrier like Fedex) without needing a warrant. The story is that the equivalent for electronic media is the meta-data without the content and it is perfectly OK for NSA to get this information on everybody. I presume they are admitting to possibly getting all the cover data from the post office and all common carriers as well since they now have the technology. If so, every written communication and shipment is tracked in the NSA database.

The second story is that the entire electronic package, including content, is just as easy to store as the "outer envelope" portion. This is not the case with the Postal Service or Fedex. NSA claims that if they need this they get a warrant from the FISA court to obtain it. BUT THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY IN THEIR DATABASE, unless, of course they have scrupulously programmed the system to not store this information. My understanding is that NSA has installed trunk lines in ISP's and telecommunications companies to capture and store a real time copy of everything. If they have this "tap" then the easiest thing to do is to get and store everything.

So how secure is this data at NSA? Purportedly it can only be used for counter-terrorism purposes. I assume that includes terrorist funding, which leads to tracking funds that also represent transactions involved in drug and human trafficking, gun running, tax evasion, and so forth. Then there are all the communications involving identity theft, financial fraud, industrial espionage, intellectual property theft, and child pornography. Suppose one of the half million contractors working for NSA comes across a snuff film operation starring six year olds? Are we OK just sitting on it? And if we are, what are the chances every contractor will feel the same?

I just don't see how you can craft a solution. As long as the NSA gets to copy all communication, there is no way to restrict use to counterterrorism.

 

[OnePercenter]

I continue to find the paranoid a fascinating watch.

You do know that Mark Levin is in the business of keeping the paranoids, paranoid. That's how he makes the big bucks!

DuckDuckGo, protecting the woodies of pedophiles since 2010.

 

[Cowman]

One thing I find funny when I listen to conservative radio stations, are the advertisements all the time about "do you know somebody or some business who is illegally using software? report them to the authorities to get money!"

Kind of an aside, but I do find it amusing.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why weren't you worried all these years?

Why, now that we have oversight, WHY are the nutters so worried?

LOL

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I guess you did not watch the video in the link.

Yes I am aware DD stores no data, what I mean is the NSA will apply pressure to lawmakers requiring search engines to at least temporarily store user data and use the national security card to make that happen.
If DD begins to be a real player in the search engine market (which they are far-far from now) you wait and see if the gubnent doesn't start prying at them.

I share your skepticism. Google for a long time, seemingly put a premium on privacy. Then the government started giving them all types of sweetheart deals and getting in bed with them.

For now and for the foreseeable future, Go Duck is a viable alternative. Even if it's only a couple years of privacy; it beats feeding the Google machine in the interim.

Nonsense.

Google has never "put a premium on privacy". They make money by collecting all of your meta-data, and using it to power their ad engines. They always have.

The government has nothing to do with it.

 

[oldfart]

Today the Guardian revealed that:

However, alongside those provisions, the Fisa court-approved policies allow the NSA to:

• Keep data that could potentially contain details of US persons for up to five years;

• Retain and make use of "inadvertently acquired" domestic communications if they contain usable intelligence, information on criminal activity, threat of harm to people or property, are encrypted, or are believed to contain any information relevant to cybersecurity;

• Preserve "foreign intelligence information" contained within attorney-client communications;

I think that the second item answers the questions I raised a bit earlier.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Why don't you traverse the dark internet.

I can't believe conservative assholes fought against Net Neutrality, and now they're up in arms about one of the things Net Neutrality was about preventing.

It's the TSA all over again.

Conservatives never fought against net neutrality. Just stop with your revisionist history. You're making a sham out of yourself as usual.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I continue to find the paranoid a fascinating watch.

You do know that Mark Levin is in the business of keeping the paranoids, paranoid. That's how he makes the big bucks!

DuckDuckGo, protecting the woodies of pedophiles since 2010.

Nice absurdio reductio. You don't have to be engaged in illegal activities to value privacy. Anyhow, you constantly make these lame posts. So, whatever....

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Why weren't you worried all these years?

Why, now that we have oversight, WHY are the nutters so worried?

LOL

Hey pig fucker.

Figure if you're going to reduce the tone with nutter, then I might as well call you out.

Anyhow, who says I haven't been worried? I've had many conversations on this issue in the past and have posted on it in the past. How about you stop throwing out your BS to distract from important issues. Can you do that or are you too busy being a shill?

That's what I thought.

 

[OnePercenter]

Why don't you traverse the dark internet.

I can't believe conservative assholes fought against Net Neutrality, and now they're up in arms about one of the things Net Neutrality was about preventing.

It's the TSA all over again.

Conservatives never fought against net neutrality. Just stop with your revisionist history. You're making a sham out of yourself as usual.

Republicans Waste No Time Moving Against Net Neutrality

Republicans Waste No Time Moving Against Net Neutrality - Blog - OpenCongress