Pro-choicers know it's a baby, that's not the point...

[Witchit]

A total fabricated lie based on troll tactics. Prove that abortions are only obtained and performed by Democrats.

I've known two women who have had abortions.

Both were republicans and one of them was a Bible thumping type.

Yup. Church Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, family camp and revival. Abortion at nineteen, baby two months before I turned twenty-three.

Married three days before my thirty-seventh birthday.

Here’s just a tiny piece of the puzzle for most of the ding dong’s who don’t know how life in general works. I was molested when I was eleven years old. I did not find out until I was 25 or so that one of the earmarks of being a survivor is promiscuity.

On another note, due to poor education, I was under the impression after the abortion that I couldn’t get pregnant again, that I had been rendered sterile. Turns out that I just had a tilted uterus, and apparently somebody’s little swimmers were willing to go uphill to get the deed done.

Look at me, all willingly sharing and shit. I don’t honestly expect to get through to any of you. But maybe there’s a lurker or two that will actually recognize reasoned thought when they see it.

 

[Asclepias]

The point is? What happens in my doctor’s office is NONE of your fucking business.

The right to privacy is the point.

Quite right, what happens in the doctor's office, your bedroom, etc. is your business. The results should be your responsibility. If you insist in including the public in the financial subsidy of your private decisions, they you should accept the public's input.

You dont have to accept the publics input. Thats retarded thinking.

 

[Witchit]

I reiterate: I don't care if someone makes a choice to use abortion as a solution for poor impulse control. I don't care whether the incubator includes the sperm donor in her decision to abort a child. I do care that I am coerced by force of law to finance poor choices and subsequent decisions to correct the results of those poor choices.

And I equally resent the fact that I have to help pay for the military complex.

 

[Witchit]

The point is? What happens in my doctor’s office is NONE of your fucking business.

The right to privacy is the point.

Quite right, what happens in the doctor's office, your bedroom, etc. is your business. The results should be your responsibility. If you insist in including the public in the financial subsidy of your private decisions, they you should accept the public's input.

And if you don’t like how things work in this country, where we do have a social safety net? Then you’re going to need to relocate.

 

[Anathema]

And I equally resent the fact that I have to help pay for the military complex.

Onemajor difference....

The military is a legitimate Constitutional expense. There are NO forms of social spending that are Morally or Constitutionally legitimate.

 

[Mr Natural]

I suspect it's not so much the act of abortion itself, but rather the mere idea that they have to live in a country where that kind of behavior and activity is condoned.

Because let's face it, after the baby is born they could give a shit less about it.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Quite right, what happens in the doctor's office, your bedroom, etc. is your business. The results should be your responsibility.

In all cases? That's overreach. You're going to have to better qualify your argument. Why does this apply to abortion, but not liver disease?

Because we're discussing abortion here, not liver disease. Where did I mention anything about liver disease?

 

[there4eyeM]

I reiterate: I don't care if someone makes a choice to use abortion as a solution for poor impulse control. I don't care whether the incubator includes the sperm donor in her decision to abort a child. I do care that I am coerced by force of law to finance poor choices and subsequent decisions to correct the results of those poor choices.

This thread is not about the F35.

 

[Anathema]

And if you don’t like how things work in this country, where we do have a social safety net? Then you’re going to need to relocate.

Not at all. Those of us on the Right are preparing to locate people like you, on a permanent basis.

 

[Moonglow]

I suspect it's not so much the act of abortion itself, but rather the mere idea that they have to live in a country where that kind of behavior and activity is condoned.

Because let's face it, after the baby is born they could give a shit less about it.

They give a shit to the point they don't want any welfare if they ever run into a problem in life.
But the wealthy will need socialism to buy their way to a new day if they ever run into a problem in life.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Because we're discussing abortion here, not liver disease

Yes, I know. But you did not make any argument as to why your argument applies to abortion, but not liver disease. It is incumbent upon you to do so, unless you want it easily dismissed as overly general.

 

[Anathema]

I suspect it's not so much the act of abortion itself, but rather the mere idea that they have to live in a country where that kind of behavior and activity is condoned.

Because let's face it, after the baby is born they could give a shit less about it.

That’s why I refer to myself and those like me as Anti-Abortion, not Pro-Life.

 

[Asclepias]

Because we're discussing abortion here, not liver disease

Yes, I know. But you did not make any argument as to why your argument applies to abortion, but not liver disease. It is incumbent upon you to do so, unless you want it easily dismissed as overly general.

He doesnt want his faulty logic extended to other areas because it would exposed his logic for the bullshit it is.

 

[Witchit]

And if you don’t like how things work in this country, where we do have a social safety net? Then you’re going to need to relocate.

Not at all. Those of us on the Right are preparing to locate people like you, on a permanent basis.

You are unwell.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Because we're discussing abortion here, not liver disease

Yes, I know. But you did not make any argument as to why your argument applies to abortion, but not liver disease. It is incumbent upon you to do so, unless you want it easily dismissed as overly general.

He doesnt want his faulty logic extended to other areas because it would exposed for the bullshit it is.

It's like being in a discussion about the penalty for murder, and saying "anyone who kills another person should go to prison."

Clearly that is overly general and easily defeated by showing instances of self defense. So it would be incumbent on the person who made that argument to clarify and better qualify their argument by, for instance, saying "except in cases of self defense and accident and..."

 

[gallantwarrior]

A total fabricated lie based on troll tactics. Prove that abortions are only obtained and performed by Democrats.

I've known two women who have had abortions.

Both were republicans and one of them was a Bible thumping type.

Yup. Church Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, family camp and revival. Abortion at nineteen, baby two months before I turned twenty-three.

Married three days before my thirty-seventh birthday.

Here’s just a tiny piece of the puzzle for most of the ding dong’s who don’t know how life in general works. I was molested when I was eleven years old. I did not find out until I was 25 or so that one of the earmarks of being a survivor is promiscuity.

On another note, due to poor education, I was under the impression after the abortion that I couldn’t get pregnant again, that I had been rendered sterile. Turns out that I just had a tilted uterus, and apparently somebody’s little swimmers were willing to go uphill to get the deed done.

Look at me, all willingly sharing and shit. I don’t honestly expect to get through to any of you. But maybe there’s a lurker or two that will actually recognize reasoned thought when they see it.

You can at least frankly relate to the issue, the choices, and all that entails. For many, the choice of abortion is an exercise in rhetoric. You also address some of the issues that make it much more than a simple choice to kill a child. I understand that there are lots of personal reasons why a woman would wish to make a choice like this. My contention is, I should not be dunned to pay for these choices. Given the fact that public funds, to which others are forced to contribute, are used to subsidize womens' choices, individuals feel that their input in how their money is spent should be considered.

 

[August West]

When a church that sends busloads to D.C. for the annual Abortion protest also sends a bus to an anti-war protest I`ll begin to take their abortion position seriously. Dropping bombs on people including pregnant women seems to be okay with the fake Christians.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I reiterate: I don't care if someone makes a choice to use abortion as a solution for poor impulse control. I don't care whether the incubator includes the sperm donor in her decision to abort a child. I do care that I am coerced by force of law to finance poor choices and subsequent decisions to correct the results of those poor choices.

And I equally resent the fact that I have to help pay for the military complex.

I've already suggested that A. address that on another thread. It's off topic here. Maybe you'd like to take up the cost/payment for the military complex on a new thread?

 

[gallantwarrior]

The point is? What happens in my doctor’s office is NONE of your fucking business.

The right to privacy is the point.

Quite right, what happens in the doctor's office, your bedroom, etc. is your business. The results should be your responsibility. If you insist in including the public in the financial subsidy of your private decisions, they you should accept the public's input.

And if you don’t like how things work in this country, where we do have a social safety net? Then you’re going to need to relocate.

And if people like me relocated, where would you get the funding for you social safety net? I'm still driving hard, paying into the system for over 60 years. I've never sponged off the public coffers, so I'm a contributor, not a user. Drive off enough contributors and your users come up empty. Where's their "safety net" then?

 

[Anathema]

You are unwell.

No. I’m one of the few people I know of who is actually willing and capable of seeing the truth and speaking it bluntly and completely.