Progressive Propaganda: The 2nd Amendment Edition

[ph3iron]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



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Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

 

[ph3iron]

Every single day in this country, armed citizens prevent horrific crimes...

Firearms are used far more often in self-defense than in crime

Thank God for our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

Gun Rights Made All the Difference for These Intended Victims

Want to quote how many horrific crimes are committed by owners?
3 yr olds killing their sisters?
20000 gun suicides don't bother you?
I guess they would have found knives?

Those children with access to guns are majority the children of single mothers living with a criminal boyfriend, or baby daddy.....who keeps his gun out and available because he doesn't want to be murdered by other criminals.

The suicides? The Japanese have extreme gun control...their suicide rate is higher than ours.....jumping in front of bullet trains is just as effective, and messier than guns.....and yet they still do it.....

1.1 million Americans use their legal guns to save lives every year......doesn't that make you think, even for one tiny moment? And as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%, showing that your theory on guns is wrong, our gun murder rate went down 49% showing your theory is wrong...

Don't you even stop to think....at all?

Down 75% from the good old mafia days?
I feel better
Still 10x Europe.
Ah well , we are a country founded by slave owners, convicts and religious nuts.
Violent genes, what do we expect?

 

[ph3iron]

Returning

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



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How about mandatory gun safety classes starting in Pre School and going right on up through the Penitentiary Level?

For it.

100%.

Commies are against it because it teaches children to NOT fear and loath guns.



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Returning your commie SS Medicare mr self righteous?

 

[ph3iron]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

How about mandatory gun safety classes starting in Pre School and going right on up through the Penitentiary Level?

For it.

100%.

Commies are against it because it teaches children to NOT fear and loath guns.



.

Sent from trench warfare against ISIS big boy?

 

[M14 Shooter]

It would probably assist you to actually take a con law course. No one believed in a private right of fun ownership until Rehnquist and Scalia

In reality no one QUESTIONED the private right to gun ownership until the circuit courts deliberately misinterpreted Miller.
If you had taken even the most basic con law course, you'd know this.

 

[2aguy]

Every single day in this country, armed citizens prevent horrific crimes...

Firearms are used far more often in self-defense than in crime

Thank God for our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

Gun Rights Made All the Difference for These Intended Victims

Want to quote how many horrific crimes are committed by owners?
3 yr olds killing their sisters?
20000 gun suicides don't bother you?
I guess they would have found knives?

Those children with access to guns are majority the children of single mothers living with a criminal boyfriend, or baby daddy.....who keeps his gun out and available because he doesn't want to be murdered by other criminals.

The suicides? The Japanese have extreme gun control...their suicide rate is higher than ours.....jumping in front of bullet trains is just as effective, and messier than guns.....and yet they still do it.....

1.1 million Americans use their legal guns to save lives every year......doesn't that make you think, even for one tiny moment? And as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%, showing that your theory on guns is wrong, our gun murder rate went down 49% showing your theory is wrong...

Don't you even stop to think....at all?

Down 75% from the good old mafia days?
I feel better
Still 10x Europe.
Ah well , we are a country founded by slave owners, convicts and religious nuts.
Violent genes, what do we expect?

And Europe murdered 12 million innocent men, women and children in the 1940s.......we were founded when? I think the crimes of Europe are far worse today......

 

[2aguy]

Every single day in this country, armed citizens prevent horrific crimes...

Firearms are used far more often in self-defense than in crime

Thank God for our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

Gun Rights Made All the Difference for These Intended Victims

Want to quote how many horrific crimes are committed by owners?
3 yr olds killing their sisters?
20000 gun suicides don't bother you?
I guess they would have found knives?

Those children with access to guns are majority the children of single mothers living with a criminal boyfriend, or baby daddy.....who keeps his gun out and available because he doesn't want to be murdered by other criminals.

The suicides? The Japanese have extreme gun control...their suicide rate is higher than ours.....jumping in front of bullet trains is just as effective, and messier than guns.....and yet they still do it.....

1.1 million Americans use their legal guns to save lives every year......doesn't that make you think, even for one tiny moment? And as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, our gun crime rate went down 75%, showing that your theory on guns is wrong, our gun murder rate went down 49% showing your theory is wrong...

Don't you even stop to think....at all?

Down 75% from the good old mafia days?
I feel better
Still 10x Europe.
Ah well , we are a country founded by slave owners, convicts and religious nuts.
Violent genes, what do we expect?

When do you consider "the good old mafia days" Since the current reduction of gun murder, 49%, happened over the last 26 years when more people now own and carry guns....

 

[2aguy]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

There aren't that many kids killed with guns you asshat....this is why we can't stand morons like you......you lie about every aspect of gun ownership and crime...simply because of a mental illness centered on guns...

Here...actual facts...

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2017, gun murder...319

<1...12
1-4...44
5-9...78
10-14...185

 

[ph3iron]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

There aren't that many kids killed with guns you asshat....this is why we can't stand morons like you......you lie about every aspect of gun ownership and crime...simply because of a mental illness centered on guns...

Here...actual facts...

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2017, gun murder...319

<1...12
1-4...44
5-9...78
10-14...185

I feel a lot better now.
Couldn't resist the 2 nd grade insult white zero college boy?

 

[ph3iron]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

There aren't that many kids killed with guns you asshat....this is why we can't stand morons like you......you lie about every aspect of gun ownership and crime...simply because of a mental illness centered on guns...

Here...actual facts...

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2017, gun murder...319

<1...12
1-4...44
5-9...78
10-14...185

Why do you blurb pantywaist 2 nd amendment garbage.?
No one I know want to ban all guns bit you keep blabbing it.
Think we all should have a tank in our garages?
Here's a nice commie link for you
How The NRA Worked To Stifle Gun Violence Research

 

[ph3iron]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

There aren't that many kids killed with guns you asshat....this is why we can't stand morons like you......you lie about every aspect of gun ownership and crime...simply because of a mental illness centered on guns...

Here...actual facts...

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2017, gun murder...319

<1...12
1-4...44
5-9...78
10-14...185

How do you respond to a Star Trek living in the 50 year past boy?
Let me guess, sucking off his socialist SS Medicare VA benefits?

 

[2aguy]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

There aren't that many kids killed with guns you asshat....this is why we can't stand morons like you......you lie about every aspect of gun ownership and crime...simply because of a mental illness centered on guns...

Here...actual facts...

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2017, gun murder...319

<1...12
1-4...44
5-9...78
10-14...185

Why do you blurb pantywaist 2 nd amendment garbage.?
No one I know want to ban all guns bit you keep blabbing it.
Think we all should have a tank in our garages?
Here's a nice commie link for you
How The NRA Worked To Stifle Gun Violence Research

And no, the NRA did nothing to stop gun violence research...
No, The Government Is Not 'Banned' From Studying Gun Violence

Absolutely nothing in the amendment prohibits the CDC from studying “gun violence,” even if this narrowly focused topic tells us little. In response to this inconvenient fact, gun controllers will explain that while there isn’t an outright ban, the Dickey amendment has a “chilling” effect on the study of gun violence.


Does it? Pointing out that “research plummeted after the 1996 ban” could just as easily tell us that most research funded by the CDC had been politically motivated. Because the idea that the CDC, whose spectacular mission creep has taken it from its primary goal of preventing malaria and other dangerous communicable diseases, to spending hundreds of millions of dollars nagging you about how much salt you put on your steaks or how often you do calisthenics, is nervous about the repercussions of engaging in non-partisan research is hard to believe.

Also unlikely is the notion that a $2.6 million cut in funding so horrified the agency that it was rendered powerless to pay for or conduct studies on gun violence. The CDC funding tripled from 1996 to 2010. The CDC’s budget is over six billion dollars today.

And the idea that the CDC was paralyzed through two-years of full Democratic Party control, and then six years under a president who was more antagonistic towards the Second Amendment than any other in history, is difficult to believe, because it’s provably false.

In 2013, President Barack Obama not only signed an Executive Order directing the CDC to research “gun violence,” the administration also provided an additional $10 million to do it. Here is the study on gun violence that was supposedly banned and yet funded by the CDC. You might not have heard about the resulting research, because it contains numerous inconvenient facts about gun ownership that fails to propel the predetermined narrative. Trump’s HHS Secretary Alex Azar is also open to the idea of funding more gun violence research.

It’s not banned. It’s not chilled.

Meanwhile, numerous states and private entities fund peer-reviewed studies and other research on gun violence. I know this because gun control advocates are constantly sending me studies that distort and conflate issues to help them make their arguments. My inbox is bombarded with studies and conferences and “webinars” dissecting gun violence.

The real problem here is two-fold. One, researchers want the CDC involved so they can access government data about American gun owners. Considering the rhetoric coming from Democrats — gun ownership being tantamount to terrorism, and so on — there’s absolutely no reason Republicans should acquiesce to helping gun controllers circumvent the privacy of Americans citizens peacefully practicing their Constitutional rights.

Second, gun control advocates want to lift the ban on politically skewed research because they’re interested in producing politically skewed research. When the American Medical Association declares gun violence a “public health crisis,” it’s not interested in a balance look at the issue. When researchers advocate lifting the restrictions on advocacy at the CDC, they don’t even pretend they not to hold pre-conceived notions about the outcomes.

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There’s no reason to allow activists — then or now — to use the veneer of state-sanctioned science for their partisan purposes. For example, we now know that Rosenberg and others at the CDC turned out to be wrong about the correlation between guns and crime — a steep drop in gun crimes coincided with the explosions of gun ownership from 1996 to 2014.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And no, the NRA did nothing to stop gun violence research...
No, The Government Is Not 'Banned' From Studying Gun Violence

Anti-gun loons simply want their like-mined friends in the CDC to make recommendations as to how gun violence can be curbed -- if the CDC says so, they believe the average American will be more likely to agree.

They know their ideas don't fly on their own, see, so they want to use the power of government to support them.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

There aren't that many kids killed with guns you asshat....this is why we can't stand morons like you......you lie about every aspect of gun ownership and crime...simply because of a mental illness centered on guns...

Here...actual facts...

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2017, gun murder...319

<1...12
1-4...44
5-9...78
10-14...185

How do you respond to a Star Trek living in the 50 year past boy?
Let me guess, sucking off his socialist SS Medicare VA benefits?

1. That money in the SSI account is MINE. No one elses. And you need to keep your grubby hands off it. Plus, pay back what you already stole from it.

1. I paid with my mind and body for those VA Benefits. Without my payment and others like me, you wouldn't have the freedom to come in here and act like the fool you do. Instead, Big Brother would come to your house and arrest you and jail you for speaking what little mind you have. You didn't pay for the RIGHT to have freedom. Someone paid for you to have that right. I sometimes wonder if it was worth it until I see others that do deserve the rights.

3. If the only thing you learned in life was from Captain James T. Kirk you would be a lot better off than you are right now. Love, Duty, Honor and more. Instead, you were raised by grubs.

 

[P@triot]

It would probably assist you to actually take a con law course. No one believed in a private right of fun ownership until Rehnquist and Scalia

Oh sweetie...I've forgotten more about the U.S. Constitution than you and everyone you known combined will ever know.

It has been universally accepted since the very beginning that firearm ownership was exclusively a "private right" as all rights are. Just as anyone has a 1st Amendment right (without being a member of the press), everyone has a 2nd Amendment right (without being a member of a militia).

Thomas Jefferson said so. George Washington said so. James Madison said so. In fact, 100% of the founders and people who created the U.S. Constitution (and subsequent Bill of Rights) said so. You lose. As always.

 

[P@triot]

No one believed in a private right of fun ownership until Rehnquist and Scalia

Here is an actual attorney, from your side of the aisle, proving how ignorant you are...

 

[P@triot]

No one believed in a private right of fun ownership until Rehnquist and Scalia

Here is the first liberal ever proving you don't have a clue about the U.S. Constitution (while also proving how radicalized the left has become over the years)...

 

[P@triot]

No one believed in a private right of fun ownership until Rehnquist and Scalia

Here is James Madison proving you don't have a clue about the U.S. Constitution...

 

[P@triot]

Amazing, wasn't it a very close 5/4 decision? So close!!

Just think, when Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies, future decisions will be 6-3! Winning.

 

[ph3iron]

Get their parents to go to college?
What is your solution?

I went to college. Big State University.

I never heard a goddamn word about 3-year-olds having access to guns.



.

Neither did the 3 year olds.
7 toddlers a day killed?

There aren't that many kids killed with guns you asshat....this is why we can't stand morons like you......you lie about every aspect of gun ownership and crime...simply because of a mental illness centered on guns...

Here...actual facts...

Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2017, gun murder...319

<1...12
1-4...44
5-9...78
10-14...185

Why do you blurb pantywaist 2 nd amendment garbage.?
No one I know want to ban all guns bit you keep blabbing it.
Think we all should have a tank in our garages?
Here's a nice commie link for you
How The NRA Worked To Stifle Gun Violence Research

And no, the NRA did nothing to stop gun violence research...
No, The Government Is Not 'Banned' From Studying Gun Violence

Absolutely nothing in the amendment prohibits the CDC from studying “gun violence,” even if this narrowly focused topic tells us little. In response to this inconvenient fact, gun controllers will explain that while there isn’t an outright ban, the Dickey amendment has a “chilling” effect on the study of gun violence.


Does it? Pointing out that “research plummeted after the 1996 ban” could just as easily tell us that most research funded by the CDC had been politically motivated. Because the idea that the CDC, whose spectacular mission creep has taken it from its primary goal of preventing malaria and other dangerous communicable diseases, to spending hundreds of millions of dollars nagging you about how much salt you put on your steaks or how often you do calisthenics, is nervous about the repercussions of engaging in non-partisan research is hard to believe.

Also unlikely is the notion that a $2.6 million cut in funding so horrified the agency that it was rendered powerless to pay for or conduct studies on gun violence. The CDC funding tripled from 1996 to 2010. The CDC’s budget is over six billion dollars today.

And the idea that the CDC was paralyzed through two-years of full Democratic Party control, and then six years under a president who was more antagonistic towards the Second Amendment than any other in history, is difficult to believe, because it’s provably false.

In 2013, President Barack Obama not only signed an Executive Order directing the CDC to research “gun violence,” the administration also provided an additional $10 million to do it. Here is the study on gun violence that was supposedly banned and yet funded by the CDC. You might not have heard about the resulting research, because it contains numerous inconvenient facts about gun ownership that fails to propel the predetermined narrative. Trump’s HHS Secretary Alex Azar is also open to the idea of funding more gun violence research.

It’s not banned. It’s not chilled.

Meanwhile, numerous states and private entities fund peer-reviewed studies and other research on gun violence. I know this because gun control advocates are constantly sending me studies that distort and conflate issues to help them make their arguments. My inbox is bombarded with studies and conferences and “webinars” dissecting gun violence.

The real problem here is two-fold. One, researchers want the CDC involved so they can access government data about American gun owners. Considering the rhetoric coming from Democrats — gun ownership being tantamount to terrorism, and so on — there’s absolutely no reason Republicans should acquiesce to helping gun controllers circumvent the privacy of Americans citizens peacefully practicing their Constitutional rights.

Second, gun control advocates want to lift the ban on politically skewed research because they’re interested in producing politically skewed research. When the American Medical Association declares gun violence a “public health crisis,” it’s not interested in a balance look at the issue. When researchers advocate lifting the restrictions on advocacy at the CDC, they don’t even pretend they not to hold pre-conceived notions about the outcomes.

-------

There’s no reason to allow activists — then or now — to use the veneer of state-sanctioned science for their partisan purposes. For example, we now know that Rosenberg and others at the CDC turned out to be wrong about the correlation between guns and crime — a steep drop in gun crimes coincided with the explosions of gun ownership from 1996 to 2014.

Gawd, is that all you do?
Cut and paste.
Quit sucking off your socialist benefits and get a life.
So you don't believe the NRA minimizes gun data?