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What would have been intimidating to people with the guys in PA? Concern for safety? If not, then what?No, from a safety standpoint, I don't think it's a good idea. I've seen enough accidental discharges in the Army of all kinds of weapons to think that it's fairly hazardous.
Do you not think there could have been others present who were aware of the same hazards, and therefore kept their distance, thus NOT being in a place where they had planned to be?
Now we're getting into minutia. I can't see video from where I am. But my understanding is that the armed folks were all outside the event or at the rear of the event. If that is true, then, I guess, but it's not like they were in some prime location.
I can tell you that I would not have been near them. Not because I would have been intimidated, but for the same reason when you see a truck driving down the road and the load it's carrying doesn't look secure enough, you kind of keep clear. I'm not intimidated, just safety conscious.
I understand the difference but it really doesn't matter. Intimidation is intimidation.there is a fundamental difference there ravi, i know you are not functional enough to understand thatThe black panther with the club was told by the police to leave. The guys with the guns were allowed to stay.
Why?
I have no idea. Both were intimidating.
but one site was a rally the other was a VOTING place
What would have been intimidating to people with the guys in PA? Concern for safety? If not, then what?Do you not think there could have been others present who were aware of the same hazards, and therefore kept their distance, thus NOT being in a place where they had planned to be?
Now we're getting into minutia. I can't see video from where I am. But my understanding is that the armed folks were all outside the event or at the rear of the event. If that is true, then, I guess, but it's not like they were in some prime location.
I can tell you that I would not have been near them. Not because I would have been intimidated, but for the same reason when you see a truck driving down the road and the load it's carrying doesn't look secure enough, you kind of keep clear. I'm not intimidated, just safety conscious.
If those weapons kept people (in PA and AZ) away from where they planned to be, that's a form of intimidation. They certainly wouldn't have been confident they were safe.
thats Ron Paul supporters for yaMaking it so obvious...dumb assed move. I mean, seriously, being THAT flamboyant...
I understand the difference but it really doesn't matter. Intimidation is intimidation.there is a fundamental difference there ravi, i know you are not functional enough to understand thatThe black panther with the club was told by the police to leave. The guys with the guns were allowed to stay.
Why?
I have no idea. Both were intimidating.
but one site was a rally the other was a VOTING place
I don't think there is enough sympathy out there to go along with these quasi-militia types...not too many Americans are going to agree that politicians and/or people that support health care reform should be shot. The elderly, the military, government workers, retired military, retired government workers...all have government subsidized health care and I never hear them complaining about it.
Obviously stupidity not guns kill far rightwingers. Bunch of nutjobs.
Yeah.....not like you.
Tech_Esq will realize what he wrote eventually.
Oh please.
"Black Panther"
You don't think that was highlighted like hell to scare the crap outta of people and make for a more sensational story?
Show me news reports where they described them as merely "two men standing in front of a polling place" and you'll have a point.
They weren't out there as "Joe private citizen" they were representing their organization. They were in the "uniform" of the black militant. Shabazz is the head of the New Black Panther Party. You think it would be accurate reporting to omit that fact?
I think they could have run the film without commentary and had that effect.
And what ties do these guys in AZ have? We know from teh google that the interviewer sympathizes with a militia group that was convicted for plotting to blow up federal buildings... that wasn't mentioned in the CNN report or in the news articles. I didn't see much about connections (or an attempt to find any connections) of those carrying weapons in AZ and any groups or factions.
But " OMG!!! Black Panthers!!!" was in every other sentence. Fox reporter even asked the guy why he was dressed that way. Is it illegal?
The spokesman for the guy with the semi is connected to the Viper Militia...a nineties militia group that stockpiled weapons, fertilizer (ala T. McVeigh) and practiced blowing things up on film.I understand the difference but it really doesn't matter. Intimidation is intimidation.there is a fundamental difference there ravi, i know you are not functional enough to understand that
but one site was a rally the other was a VOTING place
I don't think there is enough sympathy out there to go along with these quasi-militia types...not too many Americans are going to agree that politicians and/or people that support health care reform should be shot. The elderly, the military, government workers, retired military, retired government workers...all have government subsidized health care and I never hear them complaining about it.
Are these militia types? I hadn't heard that.
I think you're making a mistake when you narrow the focus to just one issue. I don't think people on the right are looking at this on an issue by issue basis. They are looking at Cap and Tax, Health care, bail outs, Czars and the litany goes on....of issues all happening at the same time.
They are looking at the expansion of government, the expansion of debt at a rate that would make Bush blush and calling bull shit.
The spokesman for the guy with the semi is connected to the Viper Militia...a nineties militia group that stockpiled weapons, fertilizer (ala T. McVeigh) and practiced blowing things up on film.I understand the difference but it really doesn't matter. Intimidation is intimidation.
I don't think there is enough sympathy out there to go along with these quasi-militia types...not too many Americans are going to agree that politicians and/or people that support health care reform should be shot. The elderly, the military, government workers, retired military, retired government workers...all have government subsidized health care and I never hear them complaining about it.
Are these militia types? I hadn't heard that.
I think you're making a mistake when you narrow the focus to just one issue. I don't think people on the right are looking at this on an issue by issue basis. They are looking at Cap and Tax, Health care, bail outs, Czars and the litany goes on....of issues all happening at the same time.
They are looking at the expansion of government, the expansion of debt at a rate that would make Bush blush and calling bull shit.
Funny they weren't upset about unneeded wars, bail outs or any wasteful spending under Bush. It's as if they hibernate when Republicans are in office...which makes me think their agenda isn't quite kosher.
I'll look in a bit...but it shouldn't be tough to find, I think it was on the news.The spokesman for the guy with the semi is connected to the Viper Militia...a nineties militia group that stockpiled weapons, fertilizer (ala T. McVeigh) and practiced blowing things up on film.Are these militia types? I hadn't heard that.
I think you're making a mistake when you narrow the focus to just one issue. I don't think people on the right are looking at this on an issue by issue basis. They are looking at Cap and Tax, Health care, bail outs, Czars and the litany goes on....of issues all happening at the same time.
They are looking at the expansion of government, the expansion of debt at a rate that would make Bush blush and calling bull shit.
Funny they weren't upset about unneeded wars, bail outs or any wasteful spending under Bush. It's as if they hibernate when Republicans are in office...which makes me think their agenda isn't quite kosher.
Wait, I though there were 12 guys with firearms. Now there is one guy with a semi-auto and spokesman? And, the spokesman, but not the guy, has a tie to some crazy militia group?
This is starting to get a little convoluted for me. Do you have a link or something I could look at to get all of this straight?
Yeah.....not like you.
Tech_Esq will realize what he wrote eventually.
It's called sarcasm Jake. You said, "bunch of nutjobs"
When I said, "Yeah....not like you." That would be a sarcastic remark implying that you too are a nutjob.
I would have written, Jake will realize what he wrote eventually, but I realized that you wouldn't.
But you said you'd be concerned for your safety just because they were there. Those in PA would have been concerned for their safety.What would have been intimidating to people with the guys in PA? Concern for safety? If not, then what?Now we're getting into minutia. I can't see video from where I am. But my understanding is that the armed folks were all outside the event or at the rear of the event. If that is true, then, I guess, but it's not like they were in some prime location.
I can tell you that I would not have been near them. Not because I would have been intimidated, but for the same reason when you see a truck driving down the road and the load it's carrying doesn't look secure enough, you kind of keep clear. I'm not intimidated, just safety conscious.
If those weapons kept people (in PA and AZ) away from where they planned to be, that's a form of intimidation. They certainly wouldn't have been confident they were safe.
In PA, it would have been that the guys were acting like they might hit you if you did the wrong thing. If the people in AZ were acting that way, then you are right. If not, then there is a difference and you're not right.
They weren't out there as "Joe private citizen" they were representing their organization. They were in the "uniform" of the black militant. Shabazz is the head of the New Black Panther Party. You think it would be accurate reporting to omit that fact?
I think they could have run the film without commentary and had that effect.
And what ties do these guys in AZ have? We know from teh google that the interviewer sympathizes with a militia group that was convicted for plotting to blow up federal buildings... that wasn't mentioned in the CNN report or in the news articles. I didn't see much about connections (or an attempt to find any connections) of those carrying weapons in AZ and any groups or factions.
But " OMG!!! Black Panthers!!!" was in every other sentence. Fox reporter even asked the guy why he was dressed that way. Is it illegal?
I haven't seen anything that links the AZ protesters to militia groups, except Ravi's post. If you have something on that, I'd be glad to look at it.
Ok. That's weird I just posted a reply and it didn't show up.I'll look in a bit...but it shouldn't be tough to find, I think it was on the news.The spokesman for the guy with the semi is connected to the Viper Militia...a nineties militia group that stockpiled weapons, fertilizer (ala T. McVeigh) and practiced blowing things up on film.
Funny they weren't upset about unneeded wars, bail outs or any wasteful spending under Bush. It's as if they hibernate when Republicans are in office...which makes me think their agenda isn't quite kosher.
Wait, I though there were 12 guys with firearms. Now there is one guy with a semi-auto and spokesman? And, the spokesman, but not the guy, has a tie to some crazy militia group?
This is starting to get a little convoluted for me. Do you have a link or something I could look at to get all of this straight?
This one guy has a tie to the militia, through his spokesperson. The others I've no idea...but reading the comments on this thread it seems logical to assume that those that talk about taking out the government will need a militia of some sort to accomplish their goal.
the second link is a partisan moonbat site so i really dont give a rats ass what they sayMy bad, it wasn't actually on the "news" but here are the links. First one about the guy Chris who had the semi and another about his spokesperson.
Obama protester's rifle part of 'publicity stunt'
Activist Who Staged Gun Interview At Obama Event Was Prominent Defender Of '90s Militia | TPMMuckraker
My bad, it wasn't actually on the "news" but here are the links. First one about the guy Chris who had the semi and another about his spokesperson.
Obama protester's rifle part of 'publicity stunt'
Activist Who Staged Gun Interview At Obama Event Was Prominent Defender Of '90s Militia | TPMMuckraker
Hancock told CNN's Rick Sanchez on Tuesday that the gun display was planned well in advance. Hancock met with a Phoenix police officer last week, informing him that he and others in his group planned to bring firearms.
When Sanchez suggested many people would see it as a "publicity stunt," Hancock responded: "Absolutely."
My bad, it wasn't actually on the "news" but here are the links. First one about the guy Chris who had the semi and another about his spokesperson.
Obama protester's rifle part of 'publicity stunt'
Activist Who Staged Gun Interview At Obama Event Was Prominent Defender Of '90s Militia | TPMMuckraker
