Protests in Syria

[High_Gravity]

And??????

Email them and tell them how you feel you dumb spaghetti head bitch.

... again you forgot to take your meds...

I took my meds, your meds and washed them down with vodka.

 

[mememe]

And??????

By saying the Turkish PM has a death wish, you implied, that someone has the power to kill him.
My reply was simple: We'll fucking regime-change you.

1. In the past few months Erdogan had to arrest and pension off over 50 top military officers.
2. As soon as Erdogan said Syria shot down Turkish military plane, Turkish military initiated their own "investigation" and announced that Syria did not shoot the plane.

Clearly, there is a strong and serious (military!) opposition to Erdogan and his political ideas within Turkish establishment.

3. By getting involved in Syria Erdogan prompted Assad to use Kurds to create problems for Turkish territorial integrity.
4. If Assad will go, Turky will also face Armenian highly militant "freedom fighters". Partially thanks to Erdogan and his slavish toeing the US line.
5. US/internationaldemocraticcommunity already let Erdogan know they will not stick up for Turkey in case of any internal troubles.

In light of all these, what (in your opinion) would be Erdogan's chances if Turkish economy and territorial integrity will be compromised?

 

[High_Gravity]

And??????

By saying the Turkish PM has a death wish, you implied, that someone has the power to kill him.
My reply was simple: We'll fucking regime-change you.

1. In the past few months Erdogan had to arrest and pension off over 50 top military officers.
2. As soon as Erdogan said Syria shot down Turkish military plane, Turkish military initiated their own "investigation" and announced that Syria did not shoot the plane.

Clearly, there is a strong and serious (military!) opposition to Erdogan and his political ideas within Turkish establishment.

3. By getting involved in Syria Erdogan prompted Assad to use Kurds to create problems for Turkish territorial integrity.
4. If Assad will go, Turky will also face Armenian highly militant "freedom fighters". Partially thanks to Erdogan and his slavish toeing the US line.
5. US/internationaldemocraticcommunity already let Erdogan know they will not stick up for Turkey in case of any internal troubles.

In light of all these, what (in your opinion) would be Erdogan's chances if Turkish economy and territorial integrity will be compromised?

Erdogan is a fucking clown but he is 10,000 times better than your butt buddy Assad.

 

[mememe]

Email them and tell them how you feel you dumb spaghetti head bitch.

... again you forgot to take your meds...

I took my meds, your meds and washed them down with vodka.

... so, your inadequacy is down to you overdosing...

 

[mememe]

 

[High_Gravity]

... again you forgot to take your meds...

I took my meds, your meds and washed them down with vodka.

... so, your inadequacy is down to you overdosing...

Your boring posts are causing me to go into a coma.

 

[mememe]

I took my meds, your meds and washed them down with vodka.

... so, your inadequacy is down to you overdosing...

Your boring posts are causing me to go into a coma.

I am waiting for you to finally reach that state.

 

[mememe]

Syria. Homs -- territory controlled by a "bloody undemocratic regime"
yesterday
IMPERARE SIBI MAXIMUM IMPERIUM EST -

 

[mememe]

During the Non-Aligned Movement conference in Iran Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi openly opposed the legitimate government of Syria and sided with the aggressors, calling on the rest of the members of the Non-Aligned Movement to follow his example.

By doing so, Morsi put the Non-Aligned Movement before a choice: they can either give Egypt a shoeing and remain one of the last post-WW2 international institutions that at least try to preserve world's stability; or they can swallow Morsi's provocation making the world one step closer to the final polarisation before an all-out fight...

 

[ekrem]

5. US/internationaldemocraticcommunity already let Erdogan know they will not stick up for Turkey in case of any internal troubles.

Why would Turks expect some foreigners to "stick up" for our internal issues?
We handle our internal issues ourselves.

As for Syria: We are still not at the highest point in the escalation-curve.
The situation can be escalated in phases: By providing better weapons to the FSA, no-flyzone, direct military intervention.

Turkey can't bring Assad down unilaterally, or doesn't want to carry the burden of nation-building afterwards by its own.
With the USA there has been set-up "working groups" involving intelligence and military planning. It's a commitment by the USA, but it seems, that the current US administration doesn't want an escalation right now (elections).
Assad is fucked anyway.

 

[ekrem]

During the Non-Aligned Movement conference in Iran Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi openly opposed the legitimate government of Syria and sided with the aggressors, calling on the rest of the members of the Non-Aligned Movement to follow his example.

By doing so, Morsi put the Non-Aligned Movement before a choice: they can either give Egypt a shoeing and remain one of the last post-WW2 international institutions that at least try to preserve world's stability; or they can swallow Morsi's provocation making the world one step closer to the final polarisation before an all-out fight...

Egypt has lots of potential.
But at the moment it's an aid-recipient coming itself out of "revolution", its institutions haven't even stabilized yet.
What Egypt can contribute to solving the Syrian crisis at this point is minimal.

 

[mememe]

5. US/internationaldemocraticcommunity already let Erdogan know they will not stick up for Turkey in case of any internal troubles.

Why would Turks expect some foreigners to "stick up" for our internal issues?
We handle our internal issues ourselves.

As for Syria: We are still not at the highest point in the escalation-curve.
The situation can be escalated in phases: By providing better weapons to the FSA, no-flyzone, direct military intervention.

Turkey can't bring Assad down unilaterally, or doesn't want to carry the burden of nation-building afterwards by its own.
With the USA there has been set-up "working groups" involving intelligence and military planning. It's a commitment by the USA, but it seems, that the current US administration doesn't want an escalation right now (elections).
Assad is fucked anyway.

Because the sole reason Erdogan got into this mess with Syria is his short-sighted orientation on US/internationalcommunity for reasons I already mentioned. Now, after he put Turkey before possible territorial loses without any real progress with ousting Assad, US/internationalcommunity turned away from him.

And I have no doubt that US, France, UK, SA and Qatar will continue doing just that: slowly bleeding Syrian society into sure disintegration; also I have no doubt that Erdogan will continue with his attempts to please his US puppeteers, unless, Turkish military opposition will take situation in the country in their own hands...

Assad is "fucked" as you put it, and eventually he will have to go. The point is: on what and on whose conditions! He already stood up to US and its flunkeys much longer then Gaddafi, messing up "civilised" plans...

 

[mememe]

During the Non-Aligned Movement conference in Iran Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi openly opposed the legitimate government of Syria and sided with the aggressors, calling on the rest of the members of the Non-Aligned Movement to follow his example.

By doing so, Morsi put the Non-Aligned Movement before a choice: they can either give Egypt a shoeing and remain one of the last post-WW2 international institutions that at least try to preserve world's stability; or they can swallow Morsi's provocation making the world one step closer to the final polarisation before an all-out fight...

Egypt has lots of potential.
But at the moment it's an aid-recipient coming itself out of "revolution", its institutions haven't even stabilized yet.
What Egypt can contribute to solving the Syrian crisis at this point is minimal.

The question is not what it can contribute, but what it is prepared to contribute. And if the mentioned incident is anything to go by, Egypt's contribution is of a far reaching destabilising nature.

 

[ekrem]

Because the sole reason Erdogan got into this mess with Syria is his short-sighted orientation on US/internationalcommunity for reasons I already mentioned. Now, after he put Turkey before possible territorial loses without any real progress with ousting Assad, US/internationalcommunity turned away from him.

And I have no doubt that US, France, UK, SA and Qatar will continue doing just that: slowly bleeding Syrian society into sure disintegration; also I have no doubt that Erdogan will continue with his attempts to please his US puppeteers, unless, Turkish military opposition will take situation in the country in their own hands...

Assad is "fucked" as you put it, and eventually he will have to go. The point is: on what and on whose conditions! He already stood up to US and its flunkeys much longer then Gaddafi, messing up "civilised" plans...

Syrian crisis is not over, yet.
You have thought 2-3 steps into the future, and you thought incorrect by having drawn the wrong conclusions.

Like I said before, the situation in Syria can be escalated in a short period of time. The initiative is not on Assad's side.
Current environment in international politics doesn't allow swift action, and the civilian Syrian population pays the toll.

 

[ekrem]

The question is not what it can contribute, but what it is prepared to contribute. And if the mentioned incident is anything to go by, Egypt's contribution is of a far reaching destabilising nature.

Morsi came to power through free and fair elections.
His election ended the Mubarak (Dictator) chapter in Egypt's history.
With his statements on Syria he just shows, that Egypt wants to stand on the right side of history.

Nothing "destabilizing in nature".
What's your problem?

 

[mememe]

Because the sole reason Erdogan got into this mess with Syria is his short-sighted orientation on US/internationalcommunity for reasons I already mentioned. Now, after he put Turkey before possible territorial loses without any real progress with ousting Assad, US/internationalcommunity turned away from him.

And I have no doubt that US, France, UK, SA and Qatar will continue doing just that: slowly bleeding Syrian society into sure disintegration; also I have no doubt that Erdogan will continue with his attempts to please his US puppeteers, unless, Turkish military opposition will take situation in the country in their own hands...

Assad is "fucked" as you put it, and eventually he will have to go. The point is: on what and on whose conditions! He already stood up to US and its flunkeys much longer then Gaddafi, messing up "civilised" plans...

Syrian crisis is not over, yet.

Why you keep repeating it?

YES, SYRIAN CRISIS IS NOT OVER! Who says it was?

But the initiative IS after Assad! If it wasn't, all the international rabble posing as "Syrian freedom fighters/opposition" would've ousted Assad long ago!

It doesn't mean that "international community" will leave Syria alone, but as it stands, Assad already messed up US/Qatar plans by holding against constant massive attacks for over a year!
By fighting for their country Syrians are giving much needed time to Iran and Russia to prepare themselves for when "civilised community" will come after them.

 

[mememe]

The question is not what it can contribute, but what it is prepared to contribute. And if the mentioned incident is anything to go by, Egypt's contribution is of a far reaching destabilising nature.

Morsi came to power through free and fair elections.
His election ended the Mubarak (Dictator) chapter in Egypt's history.
With his statements on Syria he just shows, that Egypt wants to stand on the right side of history.

Nothing "destabilizing in nature".
What's your problem?

1. "Free and fair elections" is from the same category as "honest lawyers", "conscientious estate agents" and Father Christmas.

2. By his statement during the Non-Aligned Movement conference he UNDERMINED the whole Movement!!!

 

[mememe]

After a terrorist act in Aleppo that took 17 lives when a school and a hospital were targeted, Syrian forces almost cleared the city.

In Damascus Syrians dig up terrorist tunnels that ran under the city.
СМИ: вокруг Сирии - 11 Сентября 2012 - Развлекательный портал

 

[mememe]

How Western media works:

two illustrations, this time about German media.

1. On the 15-th of April 2012, one German "news" channel illustrates "Assad's" brutality with the same video the other news channel uses to illustrate "Taliban" brutality. And no one can tell where the video originated.


2. On the 17-th, German "news" channel uses 2007 video from Iraq where "democratic" Iraqi forces beat up their prisoners, as "evidence" of "Assad's brutality".

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpsZEAJj7dU&feature=player_embedded]Ложь западных СМИ о Сирии доказана железно - YouTube[/ame]

 

[SAYIT]

5. US/internationaldemocraticcommunity already let Erdogan know they will not stick up for Turkey in case of any internal troubles.

Why would Turks expect some foreigners to "stick up" for our internal issues?
We handle our internal issues ourselves.

As for Syria: We are still not at the highest point in the escalation-curve.
The situation can be escalated in phases: By providing better weapons to the FSA, no-flyzone, direct military intervention.

Turkey can't bring Assad down unilaterally, or doesn't want to carry the burden of nation-building afterwards by its own.
With the USA there has been set-up "working groups" involving intelligence and military planning. It's a commitment by the USA, but it seems, that the current US administration doesn't want an escalation right now (elections).
Assad is fucked anyway.

Because the sole reason Erdogan got into this mess with Syria is his short-sighted orientation on US/internationalcommunity for reasons I already mentioned. Now, after he put Turkey before possible territorial loses without any real progress with ousting Assad, US/internationalcommunity turned away from him.

And I have no doubt that US, France, UK, SA and Qatar will continue doing just that: slowly bleeding Syrian society into sure disintegration; also I have no doubt that Erdogan will continue with his attempts to please his US puppeteers, unless, Turkish military opposition will take situation in the country in their own hands...

Assad is "fucked" as you put it, and eventually he will have to go. The point is: on what and on whose conditions! He already stood up to US and its flunkeys much longer then Gaddafi, messing up "civilised" plans...

Uh-huh.
Better Assad should hang on until he's slaughtered another 20,000 Syrians just so you can whine that "it's all America's fault!"