Delta4Embassy
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TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
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I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
We have more than enough cash to give them a decent life, that fits them, and still focus most of our energies on the "normal" kids. It's the idea of treating them all in the same way in the same place at the same time that is utterly stupid. Apples and oranges, let's use a little common sense here.I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
Used to just warehouse them until they died in asylums. And ancient Greece didn't waste even that much time and just killed them when their disability became apparent.
Until public schools have music and art programs and aren't cutting such things for the sports crap, I'm sorry but some must be sacrificed if all are to survive.
We have more than enough cash to give them a decent life, that fits them, and still focus most of our energies on the "normal" kids. It's the idea of treating them all in the same way in the same place at the same time that is utterly stupid. Apples and oranges, let's use a little common sense here.I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
Used to just warehouse them until they died in asylums. And ancient Greece didn't waste even that much time and just killed them when their disability became apparent.
Until public schools have music and art programs and aren't cutting such things for the sports crap, I'm sorry but some must be sacrificed if all are to survive.
We always called special Ed class the retard room in my day.I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
A century ago the Indian tribes would leave them in the wild to their devices, the Muslims to this day stone them to death.We have more than enough cash to give them a decent life, that fits them, and still focus most of our energies on the "normal" kids. It's the idea of treating them all in the same way in the same place at the same time that is utterly stupid. Apples and oranges, let's use a little common sense here.I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
Used to just warehouse them until they died in asylums. And ancient Greece didn't waste even that much time and just killed them when their disability became apparent.
Until public schools have music and art programs and aren't cutting such things for the sports crap, I'm sorry but some must be sacrificed if all are to survive.
My intervention comes long before that point, and it doesn't keep me up at night.A century ago the Indian tribes would leave them in the wild to their devices, the Muslims to this day stone them to death.We have more than enough cash to give them a decent life, that fits them, and still focus most of our energies on the "normal" kids. It's the idea of treating them all in the same way in the same place at the same time that is utterly stupid. Apples and oranges, let's use a little common sense here.I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
Used to just warehouse them until they died in asylums. And ancient Greece didn't waste even that much time and just killed them when their disability became apparent.
Until public schools have music and art programs and aren't cutting such things for the sports crap, I'm sorry but some must be sacrificed if all are to survive.
That is why they call them hard but necessary choices, loses have to be cut somewhere.My intervention comes long before that point, and it doesn't keep me up at night.A century ago the Indian tribes would leave them in the wild to their own devices, the Muslims to this day stone them to death.We have more than enough cash to give them a decent life, that fits them, and still focus most of our energies on the "normal" kids. It's the idea of treating them all in the same way in the same place at the same time that is utterly stupid. Apples and oranges, let's use a little common sense here.I've watched 12-year-olds try to be taught their colors. Yeah, let's just skip that part eh. They don't give a shit and we shouldn't just because it makes people feel better. Life is unfair, it's also brutal. Once you get that you can move on down the road and still give a damn when it really matters.TA'd for the Special Ed class in highschool so this isn't coming from ignorance and not knowing who we're talking about. But at the same time, in times of crisis you gotta triage.
Used to just warehouse them until they died in asylums. And ancient Greece didn't waste even that much time and just killed them when their disability became apparent.
Until public schools have music and art programs and aren't cutting such things for the sports crap, I'm sorry but some must be sacrificed if all are to survive.
That's what many parents think until they have a child with a disability. God forbid you ever have to walk a mile in their shoes.A favorite conservative talking point is how private schools educate kids at a cheaper rate .
Problem is that this is very misleading . Public Schools MUST educate and transport all kids . Including the handicapped, behavior kids , and English as a 2nd language . Private schools don't !
I wonder what the voucher crowd thinks we should do with those kids?
Why the hell should I pay to get your kids to school and back, after all, they are your kids?
You want to know why your health insurance costs so much? Because your paying for people with cancer, etc. Would you give them the finger and have their care cut off for a price cut? And take the chance of never getting that sick yourself?
And disability has what to do with transportation? Ain't buying your regressivecrat deflection, if you want to comment on what I actually said, feel free.
No, I raised and paid for my son on my own.You had options, you just couldn't afford them.By the way it's a res... An Indian term.The federal government would have had no say in the matter. The Rez is a Sovereign Nation, something you never learned in school apparently, and the same with proper English.The federal government did not allow Indians on the res to go to private schools, I made out just fine, sh!t happens.I wish you could have "gone" to one was well...So what is your point??
I wish I could have went to a private school I didn't, sh!t happens.
I grew up dirt poor I suspect that being the reason...
I had no other option than a federal government res schools, no other choice.
A favorite conservative talking point is how private schools educate kids at a cheaper rate .
Problem is that this is very misleading . Public Schools MUST educate and transport all kids . Including the handicapped, behavior kids , and English as a 2nd language . Private schools don't !
I wonder what the voucher crowd thinks we should do with those kids?
To put it into simplest terms: funding is finite. If you have just 2 students and $1000 to educate them, where's that limited resource best put? The kid with a thirst for knowledge and interest in learning, or the kid who needs an adult to help him go to the toilet every time, who, if you put a textbook in front of them giggles at all the pictures and exclaims "yay!" a lot?
Sucks, but we can't save everybody.
A favorite conservative talking point is how private schools educate kids at a cheaper rate .
Problem is that this is very misleading . Public Schools MUST educate and transport all kids . Including the handicapped, behavior kids , and English as a 2nd language . Private schools don't !
I wonder what the voucher crowd thinks we should do with those kids?
Nope...but if you don't like the public schools in your area you have always been free to either homeschool your children or put them in the private school of your choice. If you do not, why not? Maybe it's really not that important to you then?Public school is the default position. It was designed for the poor who could not afford tutors or private school....now people actually demand it. Imagine that.
Government schools were designed by corrupt politicians who capitulated to the membership of the National Education Association.
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A favorite conservative talking point is how private schools educate kids at a cheaper rate .
Problem is that this is very misleading . Public Schools MUST educate and transport all kids . Including the handicapped, behavior kids , and English as a 2nd language . Private schools don't !
I wonder what the voucher crowd thinks we should do with those kids?
In the school district where I live, students can request special permission to go to any of the schools in the district outside their geo-coded, assigned school. In a way, it's a choice. Other than a few reasons, the school cannot deny the request. However, if someone chooses to go to a school other than the one they're assigned, they have to provide their own transportation.
The voucher system doesn't work like that. Where I live, based on the proposal, it gives those choosing to use it a credit equivalent to what they pay in property taxes to fund the public schools in order that they use it to go elsewhere. Since most do not pay in property taxes what spending per pupil is, it saves money. If spending per pupil is $7,000/student but the parents pay only $3000 toward the schools, that's a $4000 savings for the schools. They don't spend on that student for a $4000 gain.
A favorite conservative talking point is how private schools educate kids at a cheaper rate .
Problem is that this is very misleading . Public Schools MUST educate and transport all kids . Including the handicapped, behavior kids , and English as a 2nd language . Private schools don't !
I wonder what the voucher crowd thinks we should do with those kids?
In the school district where I live, students can request special permission to go to any of the schools in the district outside their geo-coded, assigned school. In a way, it's a choice. Other than a few reasons, the school cannot deny the request. However, if someone chooses to go to a school other than the one they're assigned, they have to provide their own transportation.
The voucher system doesn't work like that. Where I live, based on the proposal, it gives those choosing to use it a credit equivalent to what they pay in property taxes to fund the public schools in order that they use it to go elsewhere. Since most do not pay in property taxes what spending per pupil is, it saves money. If spending per pupil is $7,000/student but the parents pay only $3000 toward the schools, that's a $4000 savings for the schools. They don't spend on that student for a $4000 gain.
If you don't have kids. Do u get a $7000 tax refund ?
Vouchers annoy me because parents act like the whole tax base is there for thier benefit .