Question for my conservative friends here.

[elektra]

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18 U.S.C. 793e does not apply, the presidential records act allows Trump physical possession of said records

 

[Blaster]

Liberals posting at this site lowers the collective IQ.

 

[meaner gene]

According to that law, Hillary Clinton was guilty

a)
Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

You skipped the part of with the intent to retain such documents or materials
Then you admitted that Hillary erased them, meaning she no longer had retention.

Thus was no longer guilty of retention (essential element of the crime)

 

[meaner gene]

18 U.S.C. 793e does not apply, the presidential records act allows Trump physical possession of said records

Wrong.

The PRA gives the National Archives "legal custody", and only the National Archives gets to determine who has "physical custody".

And they did NOT give Trump physical custody.

 

[mak2]

Liberals posting at this site lowers the collective IQ.

I dunno, that would take you into negative integers. Is that even possible with IQ, cause some of the conservobots around here are approaching 0.

 

[meaner gene]

Liberals posting at this site lowers the collective IQ.

Trump says he refused to give back boxes because they contained ‘shoes and shirts’

The former president is charged with 37 felonies over his handling of classified documents

www.independent.co.uk

Trump says classified boxes contained ‘shoes and shirts and everything’ and that’s why he didn’t return them

WTF? Now billionaire Trump claims he uses cardboard boxes instead of suitcases for his shirts and shoes.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Had she not destroyed the server, we could have had forensics look to see if that hapoened.

"What? With a Towel or Something?"

 

[elektra]

The indictment was the grand jury determining Trump committed all the elements of violating the Espionage act.

Yes, so? It is clear that Trump did not violate any part of the Espionage act. If you actually read the act.

 

[MarathonMike]

Father is doing no such thing.

In Trump's case Jack Smith interviewed many Trump staff and lawyers and got photos, documents, emails, text to prove Trump's intent with the documents he should have returned, just as he returned the first 15 boxes in January of 2022.

WIth Biden, there are nothing but allegations, many coming from three years ago from Giuliani, where there is no evidence AT ALL to indict or do anything else with. There is no truth to it.


The Grand Jury from Florida indicted Trump based on evidence, nothing else.


It is up to the prosecutors to prove that Trump did what he did, took what he took when the trial starts.


All of it with a Jury of people who live in Florida.

The point is, this and every other BOGUS lawsuit and impeachment brought against Trump would NEVER happen to a Democrat. The reason he is the most attacked and litigated President in history is because he is the number one political enemy of the Democrats. They are using all of their weapons including the DOJ, The FBI the IRS and their Media relentlessly against him. There are several OTHER law suits waiting in the wings if this one doesn't work out for the Democrats. This case is a joke, as is our Department of "Justice".

 

[elektra]

You skipped the part of with the intent to retain such documents or materials
Then you admitted that Hillary erased them, meaning she no longer had retention.

Thus was no longer guilty of retention (essential element of the crime)

Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

Hillary Clinton, by virtue of her office, became possessed of documents containing classified information. Hillary Clinton retained those documents at an unauthorized location.

Your idea that once a criminal is caught, and served with a subpoena, she can destroy the documents and thus be not guilty of the crime, already committed, is ludicrous.

 

[toobfreak]

Question for my conservative friends here.​

You're a conservative? I never would have guessed. To me, you seem like just one more boob sock troll here trying to MASQUERADE as a conservative.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The point is, this and every other BOGUS lawsuit and impeachment brought against Trump would NEVER happen to a Democrat. The reason he is the most attacked and litigated President in history is because he is the number one political enemy of the Democrats. They are using all of their weapons including the DOJ, The FBI the IRS and their Media relentlessly against him. There are several OTHER law suits waiting in the wings if this one doesn't work out for the Democrats. This case is a joke, as is our Department of "Justice".

Keep lying to yourself or try to gaslight others.
Nixon got away with it with a pardon Ford should have never given him.

You crying about all the evidence against Trump breaking the law, only shows that you do not care about any laws. Not if they put your heroes in prison. And that is not how the U S laws work.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Those who complain about "whataboutisms" are always guilty of what they are being accused of. Using the word "whataboutism" isnt going to help you in a debate. Find a real argument.

Whataboutism is just another term for deflection. Which is a real thing. Any magaturd worth his salt should know this.

 

[cnm]

18 U.S.C. 793e does not apply, the presidential records act allows Trump physical possession of said records

Pity the Grand Jury disagrees.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There will be whataboutism BIGLY.

Its supposed to be justice but when crimes are committed and no one is indicted but one there is no justice. Therefore you get reminded of the shit then you whine about whataboutism

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Whataboutism is just another term for deflection. Which is a real thing. Any magaturd worth his salt should know this.

There will be whataboutism BIGLY.

Sure thing bucko

 

[Orangecat]

There will be whataboutism BIGLY.

I love when stupid lemmings use the non-word "bigly" to impugn Trump when the phrase he uses is "big league".

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I love when stupid lemmings use the non-word "bigly" to impugn Trump when the phrase he uses is "big league".

That's just how demented the retards are.

 

[mak2]

 

[Father O'Blivion]

Its obvious that the Deep State has set up trump for a guilty verdict

I hope you know who Beria was

He said “ show me the man and I will find the crime”

So dont expect me to join the lib lynch mob

I can put you down for a 'no' then?