Question for my conservative friends here.

[bripat9643]

You skipped the part of with the intent to retain such documents or materials
Then you admitted that Hillary erased them, meaning she no longer had retention.

Thus was no longer guilty of retention (essential element of the crime)

No such intent is required, moron. Brain damaged progs keep inventing law that isn't on the books.

 

[bripat9643]

Press Statements in Response to Media Queries About Presidential Records

In response to recent media reports that generated a large number of queries about presidential records, we issued the following statements to the media: January 17, 2024, statement December 4, 2023, statement September 2, 2023, statement August 11, 2023, statement June 9, 2023, statement April...

www.archives.gov

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1). The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202. There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through,

The PRA says that presidential records are whatever the president says they are. A federal judge confirmed the fact. You keep pretending you know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[bripat9643]

Pity the Grand Jury disagrees.

A bunch of morons on a DC grand jury are authorities on nothing.

 

[bripat9643]

Whataboutism is just another term for deflection. Which is a real thing. Any magaturd worth his salt should know this.

Using the term "whataboutism" is the way you announce you're proud to be a hypocrite.

 

[elektra]

Actualy that's the law. No different than any other instance where the "evidence" is destroyed prior to arrest or indictment.

you have no idea what your are talking about or you are unable to articulate your thoughts into words.

 

[meaner gene]

That's not the law, moron. You don't know you're ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the law.

Why are you always so wrong.
As I said, if the "evidence" is destroyed prior to arrest or indictment, they have no basis for arrest or indictment.

That's law 101, and why the first thing criminals try to do, is get rid of the evidence.

 

[bripat9643]

Keep lying to yourself or try to gaslight others.
Nixon got away with it with a pardon Ford should have never given him.

You crying about all the evidence against Trump breaking the law, only shows that you do not care about any laws. Not if they put your heroes in prison. And that is not how the U S laws work.

Nixon didn't get away with 1/100th as much as Hillary. There is no evidence against Trump because he broke no laws. The idea that you care about the law doesn't pass the laugh test.

U.S. laws don't work. That much is plain.

 

[Orangecat]

That's just how demented the retards are.

Also how retarded the demented are.

 

[meaner gene]

No such intent is required, moron. Brain damaged progs keep inventing law that isn't on the books.

Lack of "intent" to retain is why Mike Pence was cleared by DOJ.

Or do you think you know more about law than the DOJ?

 

[bripat9643]

Why are you always so wrong.
As I said, if the "evidence" is destroyed prior to arrest or indictment, they have no basis for arrest or indictment.

That's law 101, and why the first thing criminals try to do, is get rid of the evidence.

You mean you are always s wrong. Every word of your post is wrong. Destroying the evidence is a crime in itself called "obstruction of justice." Evert email transmitted to or from her server was a crime.

Please spare us your idiot's understanding of the law. Where do you learn this manure?

 

[meaner gene]

The PRA says that presidential records are whatever the president says they are. A federal judge confirmed the fact. You keep pretending you know what the fuck you're talking about.

The PRA requires the president to make that determination "prior to leaving office"

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b)

Once they become an ex-president, the determination of what's presidential and what's personal falls upon the National Archives.

 

[bripat9643]

Lack of "intent" to retain is why Mike Pence was cleared by DOJ.

Or do you think you know more about law than the DOJ?

Wrong. He was cleared because the DOJ is only interested in getting Trump.

I know more about the law than you, and I don't lie about it like the DOJ.

 

[bripat9643]

The PRA requires the president to make that determination "prior to leaving office"

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b)

Once they become an ex-president, the determination of what's presidential and what's personal falls upon the National Archives.

He makes the determination simply by retaining them, you dumb fucking moron. There is no determination after he leaves office.

 

[meaner gene]

you have no idea what your are talking about or you are unable to articulate your thoughts into words.

Don't be a clown. Destroying the evidence before they can catch you, means they have no evidence to arrest or charge you. That's just a simple fact.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Using the term "whataboutism" is the way you announce you're proud to be a hypocrite.

You're just as big of a hypocrite, magaturd. Own it.

 

[bripat9643]

you have no idea what your are talking about or you are unable to articulate your thoughts into words.

He is, but they are dumb thoughts.

 

[bripat9643]

Don't be a clown. Destroying the evidence before they can catch you, means they have no evidence to arrest or charge you. That's just a simple fact.

So if your attempt to obstruct justice is successful you haven't committed a crime?

Your stupidity is monumental.

 

[Mac-7]

I can put you down for a 'no' then?

Absolutely

 

[elektra]

Press Statements in Response to Media Queries About Presidential Records

In response to recent media reports that generated a large number of queries about presidential records, we issued the following statements to the media: January 17, 2024, statement December 4, 2023, statement September 2, 2023, statement August 11, 2023, statement June 9, 2023, statement April...

www.archives.gov

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1). The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202. There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through,

First and foremost, President Trump is not being charged in violation of any law you just listed.

Why are you cherry picking the law, instead of giving us the entire law? Show us where it states, "before leaving office". You are paraphrasing poorly, when you can quote directly. The law does not state, what you contend.

Legal custody is not physical custody, President Trump is not charged with violating any law with the PRA because they can not charge him. The clearly give the President a legal right to the physical custody of papers.

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of...

www.archives.gov

Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

 

[MarathonMike]

Did it ever cross your mind that Trump may be at fault and should be indicted?

Did it ever cross your mind that Biden may be at fault and should be indicted my Democrat friend?