Question for those who actually believe 'transgenderism' is a real thing?

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

On the issue of transgenderism, leftists seem to deny some aspects of the science and enshrine others: the existence of sex chromosome abnormalities and other disorders of sexual development (DSDs) are seen as "proof" of multiple genders....despite the fact that most people who carry these abnormalities do not suffer from gender dysphoria (the DSM 5 diagnosis assigned to transgenderism).

Why do the leftists here completely ignore the fact that the vast majority of the people who have these abnormalities do not suffer from gender dysphoria and try to pretend as if the science is settled?

Also why do you guys lie and say Transgenderism a.k.a Gender Dysphoria is not in the DSM?

What benefit do you get from lying and denying scientific facts and statistics?

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Perhaps these folks get their info from less than honest sources or something? Maybe they don't know they're being lied to?

 

[The Great Goose]

Yes. Squeek. It's real.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Who are you to tell someone how to live their life? You conservatives want everyone to be a fundie god preaching asshole and you can't stand it if someone says fuck that.

 

[DarkFury]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

Well, they should be able to live the way they wish. They're americans, right?

 

[The Great Goose]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

You live it then, if you think its so easy.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Who are you to tell someone how to live their life? You conservatives want everyone to be a fundie god preaching asshole and you can't stand it if someone says fuck that.

This has nothing to do with telling them how to live their life. Wrong thread.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

LARPing as chicks? Sounds plausible.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

Well, they should be able to live the way they wish. They're americans, right?

That's not what this thread is about.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

You live it then, if you think its so easy.

Its a mental illness, so it's probably a sucky way to live.

 

[DarkFury]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

Well, they should be able to live the way they wish. They're americans, right?

You want them role playing in front of your kids?

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

Well, they should be able to live the way they wish. They're americans, right?

You want them role playing in front of your kids?

Of course he does. He's a leftist, they are like rabbits...try to fuck a lot, no loyalty to their in group (Americans, family), and little interest in raising their children properly...just pop um out and send them out into the world to figure everything out themselves.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

Well, they should be able to live the way they wish. They're americans [sic], right?

When “living the way they wish” means that perverted men think they can follow our wives, daughters, mothers, sisters, etc. into women's restrooms, locker rooms, and similar facilities…

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

On the issue of transgenderism, leftists seem to deny some aspects of the science and enshrine others: the existence of sex chromosome abnormalities and other disorders of sexual development (DSDs) are seen as "proof" of multiple genders....despite the fact that most people who carry these abnormalities do not suffer from gender dysphoria (the DSM 5 diagnosis assigned to transgenderism).

Why do the leftists here completely ignore the fact that the vast majority of the people who have these abnormalities do not suffer from gender dysphoria and try to pretend as if the science is settled?

Also why do you guys lie and say Transgenderism a.k.a Gender Dysphoria is not in the DSM?

What benefit do you get from lying and denying scientific facts and statistics?

This fails as a straw man fallacy, and exhibits comprehensive ignorance of the issue – ignorance common to most on the right, as well as the fear common to most conservatives that compel them to seek to disadvantage transgender persons for no other reason than who they are.

This issue has nothing to do with whether transgenderism is ‘real’ or not.

The issue concerns the fundamental right of all Americans to self-determination, the protected liberty afforded all Americans to make fundamental decisions concerning one’s personal, private life absent unwarranted interference from the state.

Again, whether transgenderism is ‘real’ or not is irrelevant – all that matters is that for those transgender, what they’re experiencing is real.

In Lawrence v. Texas the Supreme Court held that whether homosexuality manifests as a consequence of birth or choice is legally and Constitutionally irrelevant – the right of gay Americans to make that choice is immune from attack by the state.

The same is true with regard to transgender Americans, the right to make the choice to be transgender is likewise a protected liberty.

That most on the right seek to violate this right comes as no surprise, of course, as conservatives for the most part fear change, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty – which is why we have a Constitution and its case law: to protect citizens from this sort of unwarranted fear and hostility, including those transgender.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

On the issue of transgenderism, leftists seem to deny some aspects of the science and enshrine others: the existence of sex chromosome abnormalities and other disorders of sexual development (DSDs) are seen as "proof" of multiple genders....despite the fact that most people who carry these abnormalities do not suffer from gender dysphoria (the DSM 5 diagnosis assigned to transgenderism).

Why do the leftists here completely ignore the fact that the vast majority of the people who have these abnormalities do not suffer from gender dysphoria and try to pretend as if the science is settled?

Also why do you guys lie and say Transgenderism a.k.a Gender Dysphoria is not in the DSM?

What benefit do you get from lying and denying scientific facts and statistics?

This fails as a straw man fallacy, and exhibits comprehensive ignorance of the issue – ignorance common to most on the right, as well as the fear common to most conservatives that compel them to seek to disadvantage transgender persons for no other reason than who they are.

This issue has nothing to do with whether transgenderism is ‘real’ or not.

The issue concerns the fundamental right of all Americans to self-determination, the protected liberty afforded all Americans to make fundamental decisions concerning one’s personal, private life absent unwarranted interference from the state.

Again, whether transgenderism is ‘real’ or not is irrelevant – all that matters is that for those transgender, what they’re experiencing is real.

In Lawrence v. Texas the Supreme Court held that whether homosexuality manifests as a consequence of birth or choice is legally and Constitutionally irrelevant – the right of gay Americans to make that choice is immune from attack by the state.

The same is true with regard to transgender Americans, the right to make the choice to be transgender is likewise a protected liberty.

That most on the right seek to violate this right comes as no surprise, of course, as conservatives for the most part fear change, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty – which is why we have a Constitution and its case law: to protect citizens from this sort of unwarranted fear and hostility, including those transgender.

Strawman fallacy? Bullshit. And yes, it does matter if its real or not.

If you don't want to discuss the actual point of this thread... Move along.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I think Trans are nothing more then role playing faggots in public.

And here’s an example of that fear, ignorance, stupidity, and hate the Constitution and its case law guard against.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Behaviors are not protected minority classes of people, they are behaviors.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Clayton would have a case if transgender were considered disabled...but they're not currently.

They're just considered mentally ill.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

I'd really like to know how someone could claim stating facts is a strawman fallacy? Everything I said in the OP is a fact, and I was asking a question of people who deny those facts.