I amso IR
"Well Yea, Duh"!
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"Creation" is pretty vague. I assume you're referring to creationism? Creationism is a political effort. An attempt to give religious beliefs a scientific legitimacy. Descartes tried that. It didn't work. Creationism works less well even than his Meditations on First Philosophy.
This illustrates the reflexive attack mode adopted by Darwin's True Believers when face with questions they can't answer.
As to the OP, there are certain assumptions about "Intelligent Design" which need to be clarified. First, this is not a religious theory, but an alternative explanation for biological events that seem to have occurred outside of natural processes as we know them. Secondly, it does not purport to specify the nature of any intelligent being or beings who may exist. Instead, it acknowledges the possibility of some sort of external influence in the development of life on Earth.
This entire debate reminds me of the dissension that occurred after it was first postulated that the Sun was the center of our known universe. People who pointed out that the Moon and some stars didn't behave themselves according to this theory were condemned as heretic troglodytes until further discoveries were made. In the same way, Darwin's commendable, but simplistic, theory of how all life developed on Earth engenders hostility, rather than honest discussion, when challenged with contrary facts.
What we do know are these facts:
1. Earth seems to possess unique attributes regarding life which do not seem to be replicated in any part of the known universe (statisticians and Trekkies notwithstanding).
2. Pre- and post-life conditions on Earth do not provide answers as to what might have actually triggered the initial development of life on this planet.
3. The appearance of different life forms seems to have occurred en masse during discrete periods of the Earth's History.
4. The geologically recent appearance of human beings, possessing unique qualitative differences from all other animals, has yet to be understood, much less explained by natural occurrences.
Given what many perceive to be arrogant conjecture regarding these facts by the "scientific community," some have suggested that extraterrestrial forces may have played a role, While "intelligent design" suggests an intelligence greater than our own, it also contemplates the larger question of life itself: Are we anything more than just a curious collection of chemicals?
I amso IR responds: The OP asks for courteous exchange of thought, I second that.
Some thing that has bothered me for some time is, have there been more civilizations on planet earth? The earth has been habitable far longer than one can reason. If the earth is in fact 14/16 millions of years old then it stands to reason that at least there has been habitation on the planet at least 10% of that time or 1.4 million to 1.6 million years. Round that up to 2 million for the sake of ease. If earth has the ingredients to formulate life once then there is a good chance it can do it again and again. If you watch the program, Life after Humans, the theory that after 100,000 years no trace of civilization would exist or it would be buried deep below the surface. Volcano's, Tectonic Plate movement, earthquakes, floods. glaciers and a host of other events would wipe out traces of humanity. 2 millions of years would equal 20, one hundred thousand year periods, or more than enough time to regenerate humanity more than once, at least. So, back to my original question, has more than one human civilization occupied the earth and if so, what caused them to disappear? Maybe, there is a God who created all of this. Maybe, intelligent design is responsible or natures green goo is responsible. One thing is certain, the speed of light will not be denied, at least for now. So, if some alien from somewhere is responsible for this life on earth, it is long since dead on the trip back home and it's survivors are wondering, how in hell did we get stuck out here in the middle of no where, just like we do. Cheers all!