Quit Calling it a "Health Care" Bill ...

vlad_hombre

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Trumpcare is not a "health care" bill.

It's a "massive tax cut for the rich at the expense of the poor and marginalized bill".

Refer to it in the future accordingly.
 
We know. We know.

A cold compress should help.

Doesn't affect me one bit.

To watch you heartless assholes celebrating the suffering that will be visited upon our most vulnerable citizens is nauseating tho.

Kicked any puppies this afternoon?
 
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It's a good bill, it will be changed and marked up but the senate will pass it. If they don't it will be late this summer and Obamacare will be dead in many states and dying in the rest. If nothing but NO comes out of the senate it will mean doom for them in 2018. On both sides of the isle.
 
Remember Obamacare had an intended short lifespan. It was written to fail and then Obama or Hillary would be able to push or usher in single payer. But Hillary lost because the people don't want commie health care. So take the Obamacare bill, wad it up into a ball and someone please shove it up Pelosi's wrinkled up ass.

Chalk up another win for the Donald!

Have a nice day Barry!
 
you can blame the ACA for the sharp rise in premiums & less competition or you can learn the facts.

the ACA was designed to have all 50 states participating. when several states pulled out (mostly all red states) ... the landscape changed. not to mention that the insurance plans both on & off the exchange has to have certain basic coverage. however, because those same companies weren't making as much profit to line their pockets with; some decided to extremely limit their participating providers on the exchange & have decided to offer the same plans with the same coverage- but at higher premiums off the exchange that did include wider networks. most like to say obama lied about 'keeping your doctor', when it was the insurance companies screwing around.

but the biggest culprit was marco rubio. he installed a 'poison pill' into the appropriation omnibus bill that was designed to fund the ACA. the health insurers were promised a recoup of their funds that were spent for the sickest people (called 'high risk corridors or pools') thru government subsidies of their own. rubio installed that pill that dictated those companies be reembursed only 13 cents on every dollar they are owed. that's why they are pulling out & that's why the remaining companies have jacked up the cost of everything.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/us/politics/marco-rubio-obamacare-affordable-care-act.html?_r=0
Rubio Touts Measure In Omnibus To Stop ObamaCare Taxpayer-Funded Bailout Of Health Insurance Companies
is the ACA perfect? hell no. however, anybody want to say how premiums have ever gone DOWN?

anybody want to say when health ins. premiums DIDN'T go up year after year? they still would have under the ACA, just not as much as they have if it weren't for little marco.
 
It's a good bill, it will be changed and marked up but the senate will pass it. If they don't it will be late this summer and Obamacare will be dead in many states and dying in the rest. If nothing but NO comes out of the senate it will mean doom for them in 2018. On both sides of the isle.

If it's such a good bill why did they have to pass it before the final text was released, and before the CBO could score it, hold zero public hearings on it, and exempt themselves from the new rules that allow states to waive essential benefits?

And, why is it opposed by every patient advocacy group and everyone in the health care industry??

Hint; It's because it's an abomination.
 
you can blame the ACA for the sharp rise in premiums & less competition or you can learn the facts.

the ACA was designed to have all 50 states participating. when several states pulled out (mostly all red states) ... the landscape changed. not to mention that the insurance plans both on & off the exchange has to have certain basic coverage. however, because those same companies weren't making as much profit to line their pockets with; some decided to extremely limit their participating providers on the exchange & have decided to offer the same plans with the same coverage- but at higher premiums off the exchange that did include wider networks. most like to say obama lied about 'keeping your doctor', when it was the insurance companies screwing around.

but the biggest culprit was marco rubio. he installed a 'poison pill' into the appropriation omnibus bill that was designed to fund the ACA. the health insurers were promised a recoup of their funds that were spent for the sickest people (called 'high risk corridors or pools') thru government subsidies of their own. rubio installed that pill that dictated those companies be reembursed only 13 cents on every dollar they are owed. that's why they are pulling out & that's why the remaining companies have jacked up the cost of everything.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/us/politics/marco-rubio-obamacare-affordable-care-act.html?_r=0
Rubio Touts Measure In Omnibus To Stop ObamaCare Taxpayer-Funded Bailout Of Health Insurance Companies
is the ACA perfect? hell no. however, anybody want to say how premiums have ever gone DOWN?

anybody want to say when health ins. premiums DIDN'T go up year after year? they still would have under the ACA, just not as much as they have if it weren't for little marco.
You do realize you're really defending Obama, not Obamacare, eh?
 

If it's such a good bill why did they have to pass it before the final text was released, and before the CBO could score it, hold zero public hearings on it, and exempt themselves from the new rules that allow states to waive essential benefits?

And, why is it opposed by every patient advocacy group and everyone in the health care industry??

Hint; It's because it's an abomination.
It's called the "Pelosi Rule", pass it and then we'll see what's in it. Worked real well. :)
 
It's really a rescue bill.

Rescuing the rich? Yes, we must think of the rich and the poor, poor corporations.
No, rescuing health care.

Obamacare was an unmitigated catastrophe. The only reason for opposition to it's repeal is Obama's legacy and it's certain unraveling.

How does this new thing lower healthcare costs? Won't there be less insured which increases costs?
 
you can blame the ACA for the sharp rise in premiums & less competition or you can learn the facts.

the ACA was designed to have all 50 states participating. when several states pulled out (mostly all red states) ... the landscape changed. not to mention that the insurance plans both on & off the exchange has to have certain basic coverage. however, because those same companies weren't making as much profit to line their pockets with; some decided to extremely limit their participating providers on the exchange & have decided to offer the same plans with the same coverage- but at higher premiums off the exchange that did include wider networks. most like to say obama lied about 'keeping your doctor', when it was the insurance companies screwing around.

but the biggest culprit was marco rubio. he installed a 'poison pill' into the appropriation omnibus bill that was designed to fund the ACA. the health insurers were promised a recoup of their funds that were spent for the sickest people (called 'high risk corridors or pools') thru government subsidies of their own. rubio installed that pill that dictated those companies be reembursed only 13 cents on every dollar they are owed. that's why they are pulling out & that's why the remaining companies have jacked up the cost of everything.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/us/politics/marco-rubio-obamacare-affordable-care-act.html?_r=0
Rubio Touts Measure In Omnibus To Stop ObamaCare Taxpayer-Funded Bailout Of Health Insurance Companies
is the ACA perfect? hell no. however, anybody want to say how premiums have ever gone DOWN?

anybody want to say when health ins. premiums DIDN'T go up year after year? they still would have under the ACA, just not as much as they have if it weren't for little marco.
You do realize you're really defending Obama, not Obamacare, eh?

meathead.
 
Trump States Most Likely to Be Affected by GOP Health Bill
May 4, 2017


CNN: “Looking at the states with the largest percentages of people under age 65 with pre-existing conditions, if the GOP’s high risk pool plan goes south it runs the risk of more adversely affecting those in states that voted for President Trump.”

“Of the 11 states in which 30% or more of the under-65 population has some sort of pre-existing condition, all 11 were won by Trump in 2016.”

 
It's really a rescue bill.

Rescuing the rich? Yes, we must think of the rich and the poor, poor corporations.
No, rescuing health care.

Obamacare was an unmitigated catastrophe. The only reason for opposition to it's repeal is Obama's legacy and it's certain unraveling.

How does this new thing lower healthcare costs? Won't there be less insured which increases costs?
The idea is to have health insurance, not just a card that says you do.

It was a pipe dream from the get-go.
 

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