Rank The U.S. Presidents of the last 98 years.

[Polishprince]

explain how Bush caused the Great Recession

He didn’t cause it

But his denial and deer in the headlights reaction to an economic disaster made it worse. It was not till he told his trusted advisors to go fuk themselves and listened to Paulson that things started to look better

Bush Admin. Had a Plan To Create An Agency for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac In 2003-Truth! - Truth or Fiction?
Bush did try to reform mortgage policies, but the Democrat congress called his plan.....wait for it......RACIST

More mythology

It wasn’t poor people getting mortgages that caused the housing bubble to burst
It was rampant speculation, derivatives, fake bond ratings
Poor people don’t control that

your right, it wasn't poor people getting mortgages, but people with shitty credit that didn't pay back the money.

Subpar borrowers, not the poor.

Sure, some subpar individuals are poor. But many poor people pay their bills.

More mythology

It was people taking out loans on the newly inflated value of real estate. I used to get 3-4 calls a week trying to get me to refinance back then. They said ....why not refinance and get a new car, boat or RV..you deserve it

Once those inflated values crashed, those loans went under water and people defaulted

Loans "going under water" doesn't mean shit, if people pay their bills. The value of the collateral for a loan only makes a difference if people refuse to pony up the money when due.

Ordinarily , lenders don't want to take action on collateral, they just want their fucking money.

 

[rightwinger]

He didn’t cause it

But his denial and deer in the headlights reaction to an economic disaster made it worse. It was not till he told his trusted advisors to go fuk themselves and listened to Paulson that things started to look better

Bush Admin. Had a Plan To Create An Agency for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac In 2003-Truth! - Truth or Fiction?
Bush did try to reform mortgage policies, but the Democrat congress called his plan.....wait for it......RACIST

More mythology

It wasn’t poor people getting mortgages that caused the housing bubble to burst
It was rampant speculation, derivatives, fake bond ratings
Poor people don’t control that

your right, it wasn't poor people getting mortgages, but people with shitty credit that didn't pay back the money.

Subpar borrowers, not the poor.

Sure, some subpar individuals are poor. But many poor people pay their bills.

More mythology

It was people taking out loans on the newly inflated value of real estate. I used to get 3-4 calls a week trying to get me to refinance back then. They said ....why not refinance and get a new car, boat or RV..you deserve it

Once those inflated values crashed, those loans went under water and people defaulted

Loans "going under water" doesn't mean shit, if people pay their bills. The value of the collateral for a loan only makes a difference if people refuse to pony up the money when due.

Ordinarily , lenders don't want to take action on collateral, they just want their fucking money.

It was a strange period in real estate
After I bought my house in 1987 the value went down for a few years it eventually slowly recovered and value remained stable. All of a sudden in around 2003 the value of my house doubled for no reason
People looked at that added value and refinanced, lenders were driving those refinances
I saw houses being flipped three or four times always increasing in selling price

It was not poor people driving this. It was greedy lenders and investors

 

[Votto]

JFK always overrated. Outside of Cuban Missile Crisis he did not have enough time to do anything.

LBJ lived out his legacy......including Vietnam

LBJ was a piece of shit. Goldwater should have won in 1964.

LBJs legacy was destroyed by the Vietnam war. What was he thinking?

But Nixon, JFK and Goldwater would have made the exact same decisions in 1965

President Johnson's ill conceived War on Poverty cost the taxpayers far more than the Vietnam War did and has continued to this date with no end in sight. Time to declare victory, have a parade down 5th Ave past the Trump Domicile and be done with it.

The reality is, of course, is the WOP was a political move and even Mr. Johnson admitted it when he stood before the NAACP and proclaimed "I've have you n*****'s voting Democrat for 100 generations and the blacks gave him a standing O.

War on Poverty, Medicare and Civil Rights Act are the most admirable social programs of any President. Why LBJ is considered so highly

Helping those who need help is never wrong. It was Republicans dismantling the War on Poverty that led to its failures

I never get tired of hearing how the GOP caused such Leftist policies as Medicare, welfare, Obamacare, etc., to fail. It's almost as if democrats never anticipated to share power with another party, as if not involving them in the decision making was ever a mistake in creating the legislation because no more Republicans would even be elected ever again.

And then there is Venezuela. Just ask the typical Left winged dolt about the failures in Venezuela, and you guessed it, they failed because of capitalism in the US.

When in the flying hell will Left wingers ever take responsibility for their own failures? It's as if Left wingers don't anticipate events and people in the real world that will cause their programs/solutions to fail. In fact, if capitalism is such a driving force in the success or failure of socialism, then how could socialism survive without it?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

While he waited, he used his experience as Assistant Secretary of the Navy during WW1 to oversee the development of all the modern weapons used to defeat Japan and Germany. He modernized the American military so that when war came manufacturers were ready to produce the most modern weapons in the world.

He also created the Earth and living things thereon.

You give FDR WAY TOO MUCH credit.

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[Camp]

While he waited, he used his experience as Assistant Secretary of the Navy during WW1 to oversee the development of all the modern weapons used to defeat Japan and Germany. He modernized the American military so that when war came manufacturers were ready to produce the most modern weapons in the world.

He also created the Earth and living things thereon.

You give FDR WAY TOO MUCH credit.

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Name a WWII US weapon not developed under FDR's guidance. M-1 Garand to Essex Class Carriers. Bombers and Fighters and anything in between.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Locking up Japanese had nothing to do with the popular vote and everything to do with fear mongering

Just like building a wall to keep those Mexicans out

They would be analogous if the Japanese were here illegally sucking up public assistance resources and illegally voting.

They were mostly citizens.

And nobody locked up citizens of German heritage. Racists much?

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Name a WWII US weapon not developed under FDR's guidance. M-1 Garand to Essex Class Carriers. Bombers and Fighters and anything in between.

You wrongly assume that just because FDR was the president that he was responsible for the development of those weapons. The vast majority of those weapons were in development long before he took office.

For example, the M-1 Garand began under Harding and was approved under the Coolidge administration. That's not to give credit to Harding or Coolidge. Weapons developers deserve all the credit.

John T. Thompson, John Garand, John Moses Browning (apparently, to make a good rifle or light arms weapon, you need to be named John) are the guys who deserve the credit.

The private sector is much better at weapons development than government. Regardless, no president deserves credit for any such development other than being in the White House when it happened.


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[McRocket]

I will just do top and bottom few.

Bottom?

- Trump (by miles - mostly because he is not mentally fit to be POTUS. But the 'big, fat ugly bubble' of an economy - his words - he inherited, he is just making fatter and uglier.)
- Hoover (what a pathetic job he did. He took an iffy economy and turned it into the Great Depression. Enough said.)
- GWB (the country was economically decent and posting fiscal surpluses when he took office and was in the Great Recession with gigantic deficits when he left office).
- FDR (contrary to popular belief...the New Deal was a disaster and economically stagnated the country until WW2. The lowest the unemployment rate was from his inauguration until WW2 -1933-1939 - was 14% and he more then doubled the national debt. Those are both pathetic stats. Plus, as the 1920/21 Depression proved, recessions/depressions ALWAYS end quickly if you just leave the economy alone. All FDR did was prolong the misery).
- Nixon (Watergate et al overrides everything good he did)
- Obama (like the guy but his foreign policy was generally bad and his solution to the Great Recession was to hand the problem to the Fed...and they turned the economy into a cheap debt house of cards that will come crashing down one day)

Top?

- Bush Senior (other then the deficit, he did everything else more or less right. And his foreign policy record was generally excellent - with a few exceptions).
- Clinton (he balanced the books - MASSIVELY important to me - and did most things semi-okay...EXCEPT RWANDA which he handled appalling bad...just horrific. The Lewinsky thing means little to me - what sane, consenting adult blows him is his business.).
- Harding (he fucked up lots of stuff. But he handled the 1920/21 Depression almost EXACTLY as you should...balance the budget and let the economy fix itself. Result? It ended quickly and the country's economy was strong again in 4 years - unlike the Great Depression and the New Deal).

Why not a full list?

Because I don't know enough and/or care enough about the others.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

See Stock Market Crash of 1929
Massive, unsupported speculation created a boom in the 20s and a bust in the 30s

A booming economy allowed the average layperson to have money to invest. Please explain to me the exact regulation that would have prevented the meteoric climb and inevitable fall of the stock market?

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[Polishprince]

See Stock Market Crash of 1929
Massive, unsupported speculation created a boom in the 20s and a bust in the 30s

A booming economy allowed the average layperson to have money to invest. Please explain to me the exact regulation that would have prevented the meteoric climb and inevitable fall of the stock market?

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A booming economy also allowed for a lot of money to be invested into the automotive, electronics, aviation and other fields of endeavor that took off the 1920's.

Stifling investment would have stunted the economy's growth.

 

[rightwinger]

LBJ lived out his legacy......including Vietnam

LBJ was a piece of shit. Goldwater should have won in 1964.

LBJs legacy was destroyed by the Vietnam war. What was he thinking?

But Nixon, JFK and Goldwater would have made the exact same decisions in 1965

President Johnson's ill conceived War on Poverty cost the taxpayers far more than the Vietnam War did and has continued to this date with no end in sight. Time to declare victory, have a parade down 5th Ave past the Trump Domicile and be done with it.

The reality is, of course, is the WOP was a political move and even Mr. Johnson admitted it when he stood before the NAACP and proclaimed "I've have you n*****'s voting Democrat for 100 generations and the blacks gave him a standing O.

War on Poverty, Medicare and Civil Rights Act are the most admirable social programs of any President. Why LBJ is considered so highly

Helping those who need help is never wrong. It was Republicans dismantling the War on Poverty that led to its failures

I never get tired of hearing how the GOP caused such Leftist policies as Medicare, welfare, Obamacare, etc., to fail. It's almost as if democrats never anticipated to share power with another party, as if not involving them in the decision making was ever a mistake in creating the legislation because no more Republicans would even be elected ever again.

And then there is Venezuela. Just ask the typical Left winged dolt about the failures in Venezuela, and you guessed it, they failed because of capitalism in the US.

When in the flying hell will Left wingers ever take responsibility for their own failures? It's as if Left wingers don't anticipate events and people in the real world that will cause their programs/solutions to fail. In fact, if capitalism is such a driving force in the success or failure of socialism, then how could socialism survive without it?

Republicans caused the War on Poverty to fail by removing funding under Reagan. Same way they are trying to starve Obamacare

 

[rightwinger]

See Stock Market Crash of 1929
Massive, unsupported speculation created a boom in the 20s and a bust in the 30s

A booming economy allowed the average layperson to have money to invest. Please explain to me the exact regulation that would have prevented the meteoric climb and inevitable fall of the stock market?

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Any regulation of the market would have helped prevent the rampant speculation, margin buys, and grossly inflated values of stocks

The inmates were running the asylum and Republicans were helping them

 

[Bush92]

LBJ was a piece of shit. Goldwater should have won in 1964.

LBJs legacy was destroyed by the Vietnam war. What was he thinking?

But Nixon, JFK and Goldwater would have made the exact same decisions in 1965

President Johnson's ill conceived War on Poverty cost the taxpayers far more than the Vietnam War did and has continued to this date with no end in sight. Time to declare victory, have a parade down 5th Ave past the Trump Domicile and be done with it.

The reality is, of course, is the WOP was a political move and even Mr. Johnson admitted it when he stood before the NAACP and proclaimed "I've have you n*****'s voting Democrat for 100 generations and the blacks gave him a standing O.

War on Poverty, Medicare and Civil Rights Act are the most admirable social programs of any President. Why LBJ is considered so highly

Helping those who need help is never wrong. It was Republicans dismantling the War on Poverty that led to its failures

I never get tired of hearing how the GOP caused such Leftist policies as Medicare, welfare, Obamacare, etc., to fail. It's almost as if democrats never anticipated to share power with another party, as if not involving them in the decision making was ever a mistake in creating the legislation because no more Republicans would even be elected ever again.

And then there is Venezuela. Just ask the typical Left winged dolt about the failures in Venezuela, and you guessed it, they failed because of capitalism in the US.

When in the flying hell will Left wingers ever take responsibility for their own failures? It's as if Left wingers don't anticipate events and people in the real world that will cause their programs/solutions to fail. In fact, if capitalism is such a driving force in the success or failure of socialism, then how could socialism survive without it?

Republicans caused the War on Poverty to fail by removing funding under Reagan. Same way they are trying to starve Obamacare

War on poverty? Stop sending jobs abroad like Bill Clinton did.

 

[rightwinger]

LBJs legacy was destroyed by the Vietnam war. What was he thinking?

But Nixon, JFK and Goldwater would have made the exact same decisions in 1965

President Johnson's ill conceived War on Poverty cost the taxpayers far more than the Vietnam War did and has continued to this date with no end in sight. Time to declare victory, have a parade down 5th Ave past the Trump Domicile and be done with it.

The reality is, of course, is the WOP was a political move and even Mr. Johnson admitted it when he stood before the NAACP and proclaimed "I've have you n*****'s voting Democrat for 100 generations and the blacks gave him a standing O.

War on Poverty, Medicare and Civil Rights Act are the most admirable social programs of any President. Why LBJ is considered so highly

Helping those who need help is never wrong. It was Republicans dismantling the War on Poverty that led to its failures

I never get tired of hearing how the GOP caused such Leftist policies as Medicare, welfare, Obamacare, etc., to fail. It's almost as if democrats never anticipated to share power with another party, as if not involving them in the decision making was ever a mistake in creating the legislation because no more Republicans would even be elected ever again.

And then there is Venezuela. Just ask the typical Left winged dolt about the failures in Venezuela, and you guessed it, they failed because of capitalism in the US.

When in the flying hell will Left wingers ever take responsibility for their own failures? It's as if Left wingers don't anticipate events and people in the real world that will cause their programs/solutions to fail. In fact, if capitalism is such a driving force in the success or failure of socialism, then how could socialism survive without it?

Republicans caused the War on Poverty to fail by removing funding under Reagan. Same way they are trying to starve Obamacare

War on poverty? Stop sending jobs abroad like Bill Clinton did.

Bill Clinton created over 20 million jobs

 

[U2Edge]

How would you rank the U.S. Presidents of the last 98 years, from best to worst.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Donald Trump
15. Calvin Coolidge
16. Herbert Hoover
17. Warren G. Harding



Most difficult part for me was ranking Presidents #7 through #10.

Its only been 6 months since I first posted this, but Donald Trump is now definitely the worst President of the last 98 years thanks to his abuse of power in the Ukraine in order to try and get re-elected President in 2020. To risk U.S. national security in order to help himself personally most likely makes him the worst President ever in U.S. history.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Calvin Coolidge
15. Herbert Hoover
16. Warren G. Harding
17. Donald Trump​

 

[Jitss617]

How would you rank the U.S. Presidents of the last 98 years, from best to worst.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Donald Trump
15. Calvin Coolidge
16. Herbert Hoover
17. Warren G. Harding



Most difficult part for me was ranking Presidents #7 through #10.

Its only been 6 months since I first posted this, but Donald Trump is now definitely the worst President of the last 98 years thanks to his abuse of power in the Ukraine in order to try and get re-elected President in 2020. To risk U.S. national security in order to help himself personally most likely makes him the worst President ever in U.S. history.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Calvin Coolidge
15. Herbert Hoover
16. Warren G. Harding
17. Donald Trump​

Where did you go to school I don’t want to send my kids there

 

[bripat9643]

How would you rank the U.S. Presidents of the last 98 years, from best to worst.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Donald Trump
15. Calvin Coolidge
16. Herbert Hoover
17. Warren G. Harding



Most difficult part for me was ranking Presidents #7 through #10.

Its only been 6 months since I first posted this, but Donald Trump is now definitely the worst President of the last 98 years thanks to his abuse of power in the Ukraine in order to try and get re-elected President in 2020. To risk U.S. national security in order to help himself personally most likely makes him the worst President ever in U.S. history.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Calvin Coolidge
15. Herbert Hoover
16. Warren G. Harding
17. Donald Trump​

Where did you go to school I don’t want to send my kids there

Anyone who would put the Bushes 3rd and 5th has to be developmentally disabled.

 

[U2Edge]

How would you rank the U.S. Presidents of the last 98 years, from best to worst.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Donald Trump
15. Calvin Coolidge
16. Herbert Hoover
17. Warren G. Harding



Most difficult part for me was ranking Presidents #7 through #10.

Its only been 6 months since I first posted this, but Donald Trump is now definitely the worst President of the last 98 years thanks to his abuse of power in the Ukraine in order to try and get re-elected President in 2020. To risk U.S. national security in order to help himself personally most likely makes him the worst President ever in U.S. history.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Calvin Coolidge
15. Herbert Hoover
16. Warren G. Harding
17. Donald Trump​

Where did you go to school I don’t want to send my kids there

Anyone who would put the Bushes 3rd and 5th has to be developmentally disabled.

Anyone who would say that must be from the FAR LEFT of the Democratic Party.

 

[Polishprince]

How would you rank the U.S. Presidents of the last 98 years, from best to worst.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Donald Trump
15. Calvin Coolidge
16. Herbert Hoover
17. Warren G. Harding



Most difficult part for me was ranking Presidents #7 through #10.

Its only been 6 months since I first posted this, but Donald Trump is now definitely the worst President of the last 98 years thanks to his abuse of power in the Ukraine in order to try and get re-elected President in 2020. To risk U.S. national security in order to help himself personally most likely makes him the worst President ever in U.S. history.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Calvin Coolidge
15. Herbert Hoover
16. Warren G. Harding
17. Donald Trump​

Where did you go to school I don’t want to send my kids there

Anyone who would put the Bushes 3rd and 5th has to be developmentally disabled.

Anyone puts Harding and Coolidge at 14 and 16 is ignorant of history. The Return to Normalcy and the Roaring 20's were a time of tremendous progress, the beginning of the automotive age and electronic age as well as the Middle Class and Suburbia.

 

[bripat9643]

How would you rank the U.S. Presidents of the last 98 years, from best to worst.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Donald Trump
15. Calvin Coolidge
16. Herbert Hoover
17. Warren G. Harding



Most difficult part for me was ranking Presidents #7 through #10.

Its only been 6 months since I first posted this, but Donald Trump is now definitely the worst President of the last 98 years thanks to his abuse of power in the Ukraine in order to try and get re-elected President in 2020. To risk U.S. national security in order to help himself personally most likely makes him the worst President ever in U.S. history.

01. Franklin Roosevelt
02. Harry S. Truman
03. George H.W. Bush
04. Ronald Reagan
05. George W. Bush
06. John F. Kennedy
07. Bill Clinton
08. Barack Obama
09. Richard Nixon
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Dwight D. Eisenhower
13. Gerald R. Ford
14. Calvin Coolidge
15. Herbert Hoover
16. Warren G. Harding
17. Donald Trump​

Where did you go to school I don’t want to send my kids there

Anyone who would put the Bushes 3rd and 5th has to be developmentally disabled.

Anyone who would say that must be from the FAR LEFT of the Democratic Party.

ROFL!

You are actually claiming that you're some kind of "conservative?"