Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[RKMBrown]

Americans are becoming soft on morality and they have lost their historical perspective...What else can be said? Gay rights or rights for illegal aliens, phhhph! Are you kidding me? No? That is what AMERICA has come to. We stand for...nothing in this country now, NOTHING.

Screw you asshole. This country was built by immigrants. And gays? Wtf do you have against American gays? I bet you're a pansy.

Subtle. I am at a loss here. I don't have to like gays or people that pretend to be something OTHER than what they are truly are, posers. Can't stand those jerks. You? Like lairs and phonies? Gays and Mexicans, phonies up the yingyang….What can I say?

What do gay folk and Mexicans here in America have to do with liars, posers, and phonies up the ying of the yang? You don't like my gay brother in law, why don't you walk into a gay bar and tell em all. You don't like Hispanic folk, why don't you walk into a hispanic bar and tell them. I don't believe you have the guts to do more than spew your racist homophobic rants on the interweb. Why don't you prove your manhood and send us all photos.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There's always a grain of truth in every CIA cover story. They started the Fake Moon Landing story to cover what was actually happening on the moon missions.

They started the Bush took an SR71 Blackbird to Tehran story to cover that the CIA was behind the embassy siege in the first place. Bush never had to go to Tehran to give the order to end the siege.

 

[PrometheusBound]

Your belief that JFK was our last "great" President speaks volumes about the ideological "blinders" that you have on in regards to Presidential history.

Of course coming from someone who thinks 9/11 is a "hoax"...what else should be expected?

Kennedy tried to abolish the CIA? Really? Let me guess...you're also buying into the notion that Kennedy intended to get us out of Vietnam but couldn't do so because his life was cut short? People like you amuse me. The combination of too much time on your hands and an internet filled with trillions of bytes of "information" have created a new class of EXPERTS who don't know anything but think they know everything.

Blinded by the tinsel charisma of their loose-cannon father figure, they were easily suckered into making him into the world's perfect man. Camelot was camel dung.

You keep trying to devert attention away from the topic of the OP and thread. Ronald Reagan and how revisionist have attempted to rewrite his legacy. His history and involvement in creating modern day terrorism is without question and you can not defend it. I have given date after date of terrorist attacks during his time as commander if chief. I gave the specific Directive that he implemented that allowed a secret government operation out of the White House that negociated and made deals with terrorist. It is a famous Directive that was revealed in open sessions of Congress on live TV and written about by every news organization in the world. How do you defend it? What is it that you can challange or make an attempt to debunk? Nothing. You got nothing.

You only listen to what the criminal ruling class of thieves and traitors tells you in their controlled media, including this copycat Internet. Nixon got terrorism financed when he refused to follow through on his plan to seize the Arab oilfields because of the Embargo, which is the same legitimate reason for declaring war that the Japanese used after FDR did it to them. The media's moronic hirelings have suckered you into thinking that this is a war about terrorism or religion. I don't care what we do or don't do to terrorists, because they are only a Special Forces unit of the OPEC jihad. Take away their oil and they'll be fighting us with sticks and stones.

 

[PrometheusBound]

Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives​

This is why the GOP lost in 2008 and 2012: They are living in a past that never existed, just like Reagan did. Reagan raised taxes, grew government, backed socialist programs, and more. When a political party lives on myth, sooner or later it all just collapses into a warm pile of shit

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives
George Will

As the end of President Reagan’s final term approaches, conservatives and hardliners have radically changed their view of him. They originally saw him as one of their own—a crusader for good against evil, obstinately opposed to communism in general and to any sort of arms reduction agreement with the Soviet Union in specific. But recent events—Reagan’s recent moderation in rhetoric towards the Soviets (see December 1983 and After), the summits with Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev (see November 16-19, 1985 and October 11-12, 1986), and the recent arms treaties with the Soviets (see Early 1985 and December 7-8, 1987) have soured them on Reagan.

Hardliners had once held considerable power in the Reagan administration (see January 1981 and After and Early 1981 and After), but their influence has steadily waned, and their attempts to sabotage and undermine arms control negotiations (see April 1981 and After, September 1981 through November 1983, May 1982 and After, and April 1983-December 1983), initially quite successful, have grown less effective and more desperate (see Before November 16, 1985). Attempts by administration hardliners to get “soft” officials such as Secretary of State George Shultz fired do not succeed. Conservative pundits such as George Will and William Safire lambast Reagan, with Will accusing him of “moral disarmament” and Safire mocking Reagan’s rapport with Gorbachev: “He professed to see in Mr. Gorbachev’s eyes an end to the Soviet goal of world domination.” It will not be until after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the tearing down of the Berlin Wall (see November 9, 1989 and After) that conservatives will revise their opinion of Reagan, in the process revising much of history in the process. [Scoblic, 2008, pp. 143-145]

Entity Tags: George Will, George Shultz, William Safire, Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan

So it was Reagan's becoming more liberal towards the Soviets, that brought about Reagan's deals with the Soviets, that led to a warming of the cold war and the end of the Soviets' hostility distrust of the west and the USA

Americans are becoming soft on morality and they have lost their historical perspective...What else can be said? Gay rights or rights for illegal aliens, phhhph! Are you kidding me? No? That is what AMERICA has come to. We stand for...nothing, NOTHING. Sad to say.

Also, no one has a right to a dime of his Daddy's money or to any benefit from Daddy's connections. If we have to do it on our own, so must the spoiled-rotten spawn of the rich. Or they must die.

 

[PrometheusBound]

There's always a grain of truth in every CIA cover story. They started the Fake Moon Landing story to cover what was actually happening on the moon missions.

They started the Bush took an SR71 Blackbird to Tehran story to cover that the CIA was behind the embassy siege in the first place. Bush never had to go to Tehran to give the order to end the siege.

I'm glad you're advanced enough to realize that Conspiracy Theories are plants by the guillotine-fodder 1%. But I still stand by my analysis, that the Iranians were told through back door channels that if Reagan got elected, he would destroy their country if they didn't release their hostages. Notice that he didn't say if he would destroy their country anyway even if they did release their hostages. I like dealing like that.

 

[PrometheusBound]

The way Reagan double-crossed the Iranian scum by siccing Saddam on them was his way of "negotiating."

Before the Hug a Thug ACLU cult handcuffed them, the Texas Rangers reported that 95% of their prisoners were "killed trying to escape." They'd even put a rope around a bandito's neck, telling him they'd let him go if he told where his gang was holed up. But even if he did snitch, they'd hang him anyway.

 

[Camp]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm talking about how the the policies of Ronald Reagan that allowed bargaining with terrorist led to the growth of terrorism and terrorismto be an accepted tactic to be used against the United States. I have not even mentioned how the terrorism issue changed from terrorist groups to actual terrorist acts by groups supported by nations, to actual terrorist acts carried out by a nation, Libya. Reagan's ineptitude led to an actual country, Libya to launch terrorist attacts.

 

[Jroc]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm talking about how the the policies of Ronald Reagan that allowed bargaining with terrorist led to the growth of terrorism and terrorismto be an accepted tactic to be used against the United States. I have not even mentioned how the terrorism issue changed from terrorist groups to actual terrorist acts by groups supported by nations, to actual terrorist acts carried out by a nation, Libya. Reagan's ineptitude led to an actual country, Libya to launch terrorist attacts.

You're delusional and we heard nothing out of Kadafi for 25 yrs after Reagan bombed his house

 

[Camp]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm talking about how the the policies of Ronald Reagan that allowed bargaining with terrorist led to the growth of terrorism and terrorismto be an accepted tactic to be used against the United States. I have not even mentioned how the terrorism issue changed from terrorist groups to actual terrorist acts by groups supported by nations, to actual terrorist acts carried out by a nation, Libya. Reagan's ineptitude led to an actual country, Libya to launch terrorist attacts.

You're delusional and we heard nothing out of Kadafi for 25 yrs after Reagan bombed his house

No, you are the one that is delusional. Delusional, uninformed, propagandized and brainwashed. Reagan bombed Libya after the La Belle Disco bombing on April 5, 1986. He managed to kill the dictators infant daughter in the process. It was a token and symbolic strike that only pissed the dictator off and made him vow revenge. He mocked Reagan as he promised Reagan he would make America suffer for the murder of his daughter.

"We heard nothing from Kadafi for 25 years after Reagan bombed his house". Thats your dumb ass claim?

Look up this date you silly fool. Dec. 21, 1988. Kadafi's Christmas present to Ronald Reagan.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagan took a bullet from Bush and the GOP establishment and he's the one who's evil

LOL

Nigga, please!

 

[Camp]

Reagan took a bullet from Bush and the GOP establishment and he's the one who's evil

LOL

Nigga, please!

How did Reagan take the bullet for Bush? And who said he was evil?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagan took a bullet from Bush and the GOP establishment and he's the one who's evil

LOL

Nigga, please!

How did Reagan take the bullet for Bush? And who said he was evil?

From... I said from Bush.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Reagan took a bullet from Bush and the GOP establishment and he's the one who's evil

LOL

Nigga, please!

How did Reagan take the bullet for Bush? And who said he was evil?

comedy gold from crusader retard as always. I almost fell out of my chair in his comedy routine saying reagan took the bullet for Bush. Never did I ever say that Bush and the GOP establishment were not evil as well.comedy gold from crusader retard as always.

btw,obviously you have only been reading PARTS of my posts on this thread just like the reaganuts have because i have told the truth MANY times posting facts here that they all never took the time to read proving that reagan was evil.I knew the reaganuts werent reading my entire posts or the links i posted,but i had hoped that the objective minded people like yourself at least were.

every single president since reagan COUNTING reagan,despite what reagans distant cousin crusader retard says,has been an evil corrupt bastard.that carter was our last president who WASNT evil.I have said that here MILLIONS of times.

 

[Camp]

Reagan took a bullet from Bush and the GOP establishment and he's the one who's evil

LOL

Nigga, please!

How did Reagan take the bullet for Bush? And who said he was evil?

comedy gold from crusader retard as always. I almost fell out of my chair in his comedy routine saying reagan took the bullet for Bush. Never did I ever say that Bush and the GOP establishment were not evil as well.comedy gold from crusader retard as always.

btw,obviously you have only been reading PARTS of my posts on this thread just like the reaganuts have because i have told the truth MANY times posting facts here that they all never took the time to read proving that reagan was evil.I knew the reaganuts werent reading my entire posts or the links i posted,but i had hoped that the objective minded people like yourself at least were.

every single president since reagan COUNTING reagan,despite what reagans distant cousin crusader retard says,has been an evil corrupt bastard.that carter was our last president who WASNT evil.I have said that here MILLIONS of times.

I did not see a post where you specificly referenced Reagan as evil. Bush, yes, but not Reagan. And I thought Frank was referencing me.

 

[Jroc]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm talking about how the the policies of Ronald Reagan that allowed bargaining with terrorist led to the growth of terrorism and terrorismto be an accepted tactic to be used against the United States. I have not even mentioned how the terrorism issue changed from terrorist groups to actual terrorist acts by groups supported by nations, to actual terrorist acts carried out by a nation, Libya. Reagan's ineptitude led to an actual country, Libya to launch terrorist attacts.

You're delusional and we heard nothing out of Kadafi for 25 yrs after Reagan bombed his house

No, you are the one that is delusional. Delusional, uninformed, propagandized and brainwashed. Reagan bombed Libya after the La Belle Disco bombing on April 5, 1986. He managed to kill the dictators infant daughter in the process. It was a token and symbolic strike that only pissed the dictator off and made him vow revenge. He mocked Reagan as he promised Reagan he would make America suffer for the murder of his daughter.

"We heard nothing from Kadafi for 25 years after Reagan bombed his house". Thats your dumb ass claim?

Look up this date you silly fool. Dec. 21, 1988. Kadafi's Christmas present to Ronald Reagan.

Anyone who thinks Reagan was solely responsible for any increase in terrorism is delusion and you are surely that. I think you're full of crap, sitting in your room, on your computer obsessing with your stupidity

 

[Camp]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm talking about how the the policies of Ronald Reagan that allowed bargaining with terrorist led to the growth of terrorism and terrorismto be an accepted tactic to be used against the United States. I have not even mentioned how the terrorism issue changed from terrorist groups to actual terrorist acts by groups supported by nations, to actual terrorist acts carried out by a nation, Libya. Reagan's ineptitude led to an actual country, Libya to launch terrorist attacts.

You're delusional and we heard nothing out of Kadafi for 25 yrs after Reagan bombed his house

No, you are the one that is delusional. Delusional, uninformed, propagandized and brainwashed. Reagan bombed Libya after the La Belle Disco bombing on April 5, 1986. He managed to kill the dictators infant daughter in the process. It was a token and symbolic strike that only pissed the dictator off and made him vow revenge. He mocked Reagan as he promised Reagan he would make America suffer for the murder of his daughter.

"We heard nothing from Kadafi for 25 years after Reagan bombed his house". Thats your dumb ass claim?

Look up this date you silly fool. Dec. 21, 1988. Kadafi's Christmas present to Ronald Reagan.

Ya, sure Jroc, but you won't talk about what happened on Dec. 21, 1988. You made a claim that Reagan bombed Kadafi and we didn't hear from him for 25 years and maybe you looked up the date and found out what happened and maybe you didn't. My comments about you stand unless you can respond with something other than attempts at insults.

 

[Camp]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm talking about how the the policies of Ronald Reagan that allowed bargaining with terrorist led to the growth of terrorism and terrorismto be an accepted tactic to be used against the United States. I have not even mentioned how the terrorism issue changed from terrorist groups to actual terrorist acts by groups supported by nations, to actual terrorist acts carried out by a nation, Libya. Reagan's ineptitude led to an actual country, Libya to launch terrorist attacts.

You're delusional and we heard nothing out of Kadafi for 25 yrs after Reagan bombed his house

Do you actually believe an Arab leader of a muslim country would not seek retribution and revenge for the killing of his daughter? Reagan didn't seem to have much of a knowledge base in regards to Arab culture.

 

[thanatos144]

You're delusional and we heard nothing out of Kadafi for 25 yrs after Reagan bombed his house

No, you are the one that is delusional. Delusional, uninformed, propagandized and brainwashed. Reagan bombed Libya after the La Belle Disco bombing on April 5, 1986. He managed to kill the dictators infant daughter in the process. It was a token and symbolic strike that only pissed the dictator off and made him vow revenge. He mocked Reagan as he promised Reagan he would make America suffer for the murder of his daughter.

"We heard nothing from Kadafi for 25 years after Reagan bombed his house". Thats your dumb ass claim?

Look up this date you silly fool. Dec. 21, 1988. Kadafi's Christmas present to Ronald Reagan.

Anyone who thinks Reagan was solely responsible for any increase in terrorism is delusion and you are surely that. I think you're full of crap, sitting in your room, on your computer obsessing with your stupidity

They are America hating apologists.... They see conspiracy everywhere because they refuse to believe people hate us for not being Muslim or for being free.

 

[Jroc]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waLJii_RrXs]President Reagan: Speech on Airstrikes Against Libya, April 14, 1986 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Papageorgio]

What the heck are you talking about? I'm talking about how the the policies of Ronald Reagan that allowed bargaining with terrorist led to the growth of terrorism and terrorismto be an accepted tactic to be used against the United States. I have not even mentioned how the terrorism issue changed from terrorist groups to actual terrorist acts by groups supported by nations, to actual terrorist acts carried out by a nation, Libya. Reagan's ineptitude led to an actual country, Libya to launch terrorist attacts.

You're delusional and we heard nothing out of Kadafi for 25 yrs after Reagan bombed his house

No, you are the one that is delusional. Delusional, uninformed, propagandized and brainwashed. Reagan bombed Libya after the La Belle Disco bombing on April 5, 1986. He managed to kill the dictators infant daughter in the process. It was a token and symbolic strike that only pissed the dictator off and made him vow revenge. He mocked Reagan as he promised Reagan he would make America suffer for the murder of his daughter.

"We heard nothing from Kadafi for 25 years after Reagan bombed his house". Thats your dumb ass claim?

Look up this date you silly fool. Dec. 21, 1988. Kadafi's Christmas present to Ronald Reagan.

Speaking of lies, weren't you the dumb son do a bitch that lied earlier in another thread about veterans losing benefits during the shutdown.

Do you ever get confused when you fucking lie all the time?