Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[Oldstyle]

So JFK makes a deal with organized crime in order to get elected...but HE'S your paragon of virtue?

 

[Camp]

So JFK makes a deal with organized crime in order to get elected...but HE'S your paragon of virtue?

All politicians make deals to get elected. Your county council rep's make deals and every elected official between them and the President makes deals.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

So JFK makes a deal with organized crime in order to get elected...but HE'S your paragon of virtue?

Evading the facts when proven wrong as always I see changing the subject not addressing them.

and since you want to evade my facts and change the subject,his father made the deal fool.His father was the one that used his mob connections and close ties in chicago to get him elected.and so what,even if he knew about it as well at least he did the right thing and double crossed doing what other presidents before him could not do,go after them tooth and nail with Bobby leading the charge with an all out war agains the mob,not just prosecuting the low level men,but the big fish deporting Santos Trafficante and putting Jimmy Hoffa behind jail.

Soon as Dick Nixon "who had long standing ties to the mob" got elected,he pardoned Hoffa and got him out of jail letting the run amok again.

oh and I notice how everytime i ask the question to you,meathead brain,and zionist shill jroc,that its funny that it seems you would want to tell crusader retard to shut up in his lunatic ramblings about Reagan,that you would want to distance yourself from him because he has the same agreements with me about 9/11 and Bush sr being involved in the JFK assassination,you all evade that point and wont answer it just like you wont answer all my links that prove reagan was a traiter to the american people.

that I can never get an answer from any of you on that.

JFK unlike Reagan,at least TRIED to do the right thing and abolish the CIA and pull us out of the vietnam war. that to me is being a true patriot.He had some flaws like all people do,but he at least tried to do the right thing.

you trolls as always,evade the fact i have posted over a 100 times here that carter,like jfk,ALSO tried to get rid of the CIA while president firing Bush sr replacing him with Stansfield Turner who then cleaned house firing many covert specialits in the CIA,reforming the CIA and then Reagan gets in,fires Turner,and replaces him with William Casey who then gets the CIA back to its old dirty tricks of covert CIA operations again.


you trolls cowardly run off from that fact EVERYTIME.

This is the kind of man William Casey whom Reagan appointed as new CIA director was.These are not my words,these are the words Casey himself spoke.

We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.-- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
William Casey

 

[LA RAM FAN]

oh and her is the proof in the pudding that the CIA is the reason the world is in the mess that it is today.you fools again,have been brainwashed by the CIA controlled media.

as you can see from this link,Truman himself admitted he made a mistake in creating the CIA.He once said it was the worst mistake he ever made as president.Oh and as you can see,jfk really DID say he was going to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces which he did take action to implement in his short term in office.

“I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo.”
– Harry S. Truman

If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts.”
– George H. W. Bush

Hey Bush sr CONFESSING here how evil he is,what do you you know?


” I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds.”
– John F. Kennedy

CIA Admits Using MSM To Manipulate The USA (Video)

 

[Camp]

Nope, keep digging.

Ridicule this one. Oct. 23, 1983

Are you done yet posting shit that means nothing you ignorant toad?

Tell that to the families of the 241 Marines killed on that day by a terrorist driving a bomb filled truck into their barracks. Tell that to the families of the 13 who died later from injuries. Tell it to the Marines who still have nightmares because they watched the terrorist approach as they held weapons that were ordered to be unloaded and thus useless to stop the terrorist.
Under the command of Ronald Reagan Marines were posted to a war zone and ordered to carry and protect themselve and each other with unloaded weapons. Fuck Ronald Reagan.

Conspiracy theorys can be challanged and debunked. Is there anything in this comment that can be challanged and debunked, or is it just a question of who wants to forgive the asshole and who doesn't.?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Are you done yet posting shit that means nothing you ignorant toad?

Tell that to the families of the 241 Marines killed on that day by a terrorist driving a bomb filled truck into their barracks. Tell that to the families of the 13 who died later from injuries. Tell it to the Marines who still have nightmares because they watched the terrorist approach as they held weapons that were ordered to be unloaded and thus useless to stop the terrorist.
Under the command of Ronald Reagan Marines were posted to a war zone and ordered to carry and protect themselve and each other with unloaded weapons. Fuck Ronald Reagan.

Conspiracy theorys can be challanged and debunked. Is there anything in this comment that can be challanged and debunked, or is it just a question of who wants to forgive the asshole and who doesn't.?

one conspiracy THOERY that can be challenged and debunked is the governments theory that 19 muslins were behind 9/11. thats a different story for another thread for another time though.

 

[Camp]

Tell that to the families of the 241 Marines killed on that day by a terrorist driving a bomb filled truck into their barracks. Tell that to the families of the 13 who died later from injuries. Tell it to the Marines who still have nightmares because they watched the terrorist approach as they held weapons that were ordered to be unloaded and thus useless to stop the terrorist.
Under the command of Ronald Reagan Marines were posted to a war zone and ordered to carry and protect themselve and each other with unloaded weapons. Fuck Ronald Reagan.

Conspiracy theorys can be challanged and debunked. Is there anything in this comment that can be challanged and debunked, or is it just a question of who wants to forgive the asshole and who doesn't.?

one conspiracy THOERY that can be challenged and debunked is the governments theory that 19 muslins were behind 9/11. thats a different story for another thread for another time though.

Thanks

 

[PrometheusBound]

Your belief that JFK was our last "great" President speaks volumes about the ideological "blinders" that you have on in regards to Presidential history.

Of course coming from someone who thinks 9/11 is a "hoax"...what else should be expected?

Kennedy tried to abolish the CIA? Really? Let me guess...you're also buying into the notion that Kennedy intended to get us out of Vietnam but couldn't do so because his life was cut short? People like you amuse me. The combination of too much time on your hands and an internet filled with trillions of bytes of "information" have created a new class of EXPERTS who don't know anything but think they know everything.

Blinded by the tinsel charisma of their loose-cannon father figure, they were easily suckered into making him into the world's perfect man. Camelot was camel dung.

 

[Camp]

Your belief that JFK was our last "great" President speaks volumes about the ideological "blinders" that you have on in regards to Presidential history.

Of course coming from someone who thinks 9/11 is a "hoax"...what else should be expected?

Kennedy tried to abolish the CIA? Really? Let me guess...you're also buying into the notion that Kennedy intended to get us out of Vietnam but couldn't do so because his life was cut short? People like you amuse me. The combination of too much time on your hands and an internet filled with trillions of bytes of "information" have created a new class of EXPERTS who don't know anything but think they know everything.

Blinded by the tinsel charisma of their loose-cannon father figure, they were easily suckered into making him into the world's perfect man. Camelot was camel dung.

You keep trying to devert attention away from the topic of the OP and thread. Ronald Reagan and how revisionist have attempted to rewrite his legacy. His history and involvement in creating modern day terrorism is without question and you can not defend it. I have given date after date of terrorist attacks during his time as commander if chief. I gave the specific Directive that he implemented that allowed a secret government operation out of the White House that negociated and made deals with terrorist. It is a famous Directive that was revealed in open sessions of Congress on live TV and written about by every news organization in the world. How do you defend it? What is it that you can challange or make an attempt to debunk? Nothing. You got nothing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagans legacy is and always will be liberating hundreds of millions from Soviet Communism

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Your belief that JFK was our last "great" President speaks volumes about the ideological "blinders" that you have on in regards to Presidential history.

Of course coming from someone who thinks 9/11 is a "hoax"...what else should be expected?

Kennedy tried to abolish the CIA? Really? Let me guess...you're also buying into the notion that Kennedy intended to get us out of Vietnam but couldn't do so because his life was cut short? People like you amuse me. The combination of too much time on your hands and an internet filled with trillions of bytes of "information" have created a new class of EXPERTS who don't know anything but think they know everything.

Blinded by the tinsel charisma of their loose-cannon father figure, they were easily suckered into making him into the world's perfect man. Camelot was camel dung.

You keep trying to devert attention away from the topic of the OP and thread. Ronald Reagan and how revisionist have attempted to rewrite his legacy. His history and involvement in creating modern day terrorism is without question and you can not defend it. I have given date after date of terrorist attacks during his time as commander if chief. I gave the specific Directive that he implemented that allowed a secret government operation out of the White House that negociated and made deals with terrorist. It is a famous Directive that was revealed in open sessions of Congress on live TV and written about by every news organization in the world. How do you defend it? What is it that you can challange or make an attempt to debunk? Nothing. You got nothing.

everyone of the reaganuts has done exactly that.come on here and try to divert attention away from the topic of the OP and thread evading the facts never trying to debunk them in the links I post or in your case,the dates, constantly changing the subject everytime talking about the corruption of Obama and then refusing to answer questions you pose them as well.

 

[RKMBrown]

9/11 have you been a retard your whole life?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagan never wanted Bush as his running mate. Reagan knew Bush was a scumbag and likely meant that the Republican Establishment was going to assassinate him, but they gave him no choice: it was either take Bush or we'll ruin you.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

9/11 have you been a retard your whole life?

you reaganuts are so predictable.as always when you are cornered by all these pesky facts I have posted throughout this whole thread,instead of addressing them in those links I posted,you all either change the subject like camp just got done saying,or you get frustrated and then start trolling the boards.

excellent rebutall to all those facts I just posted.you sure showed me.

till your ready to actually discuss them,then not going to go any further with you since your obviously only capapble of doing the meathead meatbrain thing,coming back with oneliners when cornered.

Reaganuts are so easy to predict.evade,evade,evade,the truth hurts.

 

[Jroc]

Are you done yet posting shit that means nothing you ignorant toad?

Tell that to the families of the 241 Marines killed on that day by a terrorist driving a bomb filled truck into their barracks. Tell that to the families of the 13 who died later from injuries. Tell it to the Marines who still have nightmares because they watched the terrorist approach as they held weapons that were ordered to be unloaded and thus useless to stop the terrorist.
Under the command of Ronald Reagan Marines were posted to a war zone and ordered to carry and protect themselve and each other with unloaded weapons. Fuck Ronald Reagan.

Conspiracy theorys can be challanged and debunked. Is there anything in this comment that can be challanged and debunked, or is it just a question of who wants to forgive the asshole and who doesn't.?

Yeah that's what you get for trying to work with the U.N. on anything. Fuck the U.N. and fuck the muslim nut jobs

 

[gipper]

Reagan never wanted Bush as his running mate. Reagan knew Bush was a scumbag and likely meant that the Republican Establishment was going to assassinate him, but they gave him no choice: it was either take Bush or we'll ruin you.

Yes. Accepting HW as VP was one of Reagan's biggest mistakes. It not only allowed the elitist HW to win easily in '88, on Reagan's coat tails, it allowed his elitist and progressive fool of a son, to win the WH TWICE!!!

Sad....very sad.

Can you imagine the horror if another HW son wins the WH? God forbid!!! That would quadruple Reagan's mistake in picking HW...who was a CIA tool, with shady ties to the JFK coup d'état.

If you were to define the words Statist and Elitist by using a person's name...that name would be BUSH....but it would also be Clinton, Gore, Cheney, Romney, Big Ears....ops Obama, etc....................................

Are we fucked or what?

 

[Dot Com]

Reagan never wanted Bush as his running mate. Reagan knew Bush was a scumbag and likely meant that the Republican Establishment was going to assassinate him, but they gave him no choice: it was either take Bush or we'll ruin you.

you mean the establishment-types wanted to keep the status quo and saw the gipper as a threat to ending the taxpayer-financed never-ending buffet in D.C.?

 

[MaryL]

Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives​

This is why the GOP lost in 2008 and 2012: They are living in a past that never existed, just like Reagan did. Reagan raised taxes, grew government, backed socialist programs, and more. When a political party lives on myth, sooner or later it all just collapses into a warm pile of shit

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives
George Will

As the end of President Reagan’s final term approaches, conservatives and hardliners have radically changed their view of him. They originally saw him as one of their own—a crusader for good against evil, obstinately opposed to communism in general and to any sort of arms reduction agreement with the Soviet Union in specific. But recent events—Reagan’s recent moderation in rhetoric towards the Soviets (see December 1983 and After), the summits with Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev (see November 16-19, 1985 and October 11-12, 1986), and the recent arms treaties with the Soviets (see Early 1985 and December 7-8, 1987) have soured them on Reagan.

Hardliners had once held considerable power in the Reagan administration (see January 1981 and After and Early 1981 and After), but their influence has steadily waned, and their attempts to sabotage and undermine arms control negotiations (see April 1981 and After, September 1981 through November 1983, May 1982 and After, and April 1983-December 1983), initially quite successful, have grown less effective and more desperate (see Before November 16, 1985). Attempts by administration hardliners to get “soft” officials such as Secretary of State George Shultz fired do not succeed. Conservative pundits such as George Will and William Safire lambast Reagan, with Will accusing him of “moral disarmament” and Safire mocking Reagan’s rapport with Gorbachev: “He professed to see in Mr. Gorbachev’s eyes an end to the Soviet goal of world domination.” It will not be until after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the tearing down of the Berlin Wall (see November 9, 1989 and After) that conservatives will revise their opinion of Reagan, in the process revising much of history in the process. [Scoblic, 2008, pp. 143-145]

Entity Tags: George Will, George Shultz, William Safire, Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan

So it was Reagan's becoming more liberal towards the Soviets, that brought about Reagan's deals with the Soviets, that led to a warming of the cold war and the end of the Soviets' hostility distrust of the west and the USA

Americans are becoming soft on morality and they have lost their historical perspective...What else can be said? Gay rights or rights for illegal aliens, phhhph! Are you kidding me? No? That is what AMERICA has come to. We stand for...nothing, NOTHING. Sad to say.

 

[RKMBrown]

Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives​

This is why the GOP lost in 2008 and 2012: They are living in a past that never existed, just like Reagan did. Reagan raised taxes, grew government, backed socialist programs, and more. When a political party lives on myth, sooner or later it all just collapses into a warm pile of shit

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives
George Will

As the end of President Reagan’s final term approaches, conservatives and hardliners have radically changed their view of him. They originally saw him as one of their own—a crusader for good against evil, obstinately opposed to communism in general and to any sort of arms reduction agreement with the Soviet Union in specific. But recent events—Reagan’s recent moderation in rhetoric towards the Soviets (see December 1983 and After), the summits with Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev (see November 16-19, 1985 and October 11-12, 1986), and the recent arms treaties with the Soviets (see Early 1985 and December 7-8, 1987) have soured them on Reagan.

Hardliners had once held considerable power in the Reagan administration (see January 1981 and After and Early 1981 and After), but their influence has steadily waned, and their attempts to sabotage and undermine arms control negotiations (see April 1981 and After, September 1981 through November 1983, May 1982 and After, and April 1983-December 1983), initially quite successful, have grown less effective and more desperate (see Before November 16, 1985). Attempts by administration hardliners to get “soft” officials such as Secretary of State George Shultz fired do not succeed. Conservative pundits such as George Will and William Safire lambast Reagan, with Will accusing him of “moral disarmament” and Safire mocking Reagan’s rapport with Gorbachev: “He professed to see in Mr. Gorbachev’s eyes an end to the Soviet goal of world domination.” It will not be until after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the tearing down of the Berlin Wall (see November 9, 1989 and After) that conservatives will revise their opinion of Reagan, in the process revising much of history in the process. [Scoblic, 2008, pp. 143-145]

Entity Tags: George Will, George Shultz, William Safire, Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan

So it was Reagan's becoming more liberal towards the Soviets, that brought about Reagan's deals with the Soviets, that led to a warming of the cold war and the end of the Soviets' hostility distrust of the west and the USA

Americans are becoming soft on morality and they have lost their historical perspective...What else can be said? Gay rights or rights for illegal aliens, phhhph! Are you kidding me? No? That is what AMERICA has come to. We stand for...nothing in this country now, NOTHING.

Screw you asshole. This country was built by immigrants. And gays? Wtf do you have against American gays? I bet you're a pansy.

 

[MaryL]

Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives​

This is why the GOP lost in 2008 and 2012: They are living in a past that never existed, just like Reagan did. Reagan raised taxes, grew government, backed socialist programs, and more. When a political party lives on myth, sooner or later it all just collapses into a warm pile of shit



So it was Reagan's becoming more liberal towards the Soviets, that brought about Reagan's deals with the Soviets, that led to a warming of the cold war and the end of the Soviets' hostility distrust of the west and the USA

Americans are becoming soft on morality and they have lost their historical perspective...What else can be said? Gay rights or rights for illegal aliens, phhhph! Are you kidding me? No? That is what AMERICA has come to. We stand for...nothing in this country now, NOTHING.

Screw you asshole. This country was built by immigrants. And gays? Wtf do you have against American gays? I bet you're a pansy.

Subtle. I am at a loss here. I don't have to like gays or people that pretend to be something OTHER than what they are truly are, posers. Can't stand those jerks. You? Like lairs and phonies? Gays and Mexicans, phonies up the yingyang….What can I say?