Reality sets in for Oregon governor

[CrusaderFrank]

JESUS said to feed the hungry and poor. Not have the government confiscate the money from others.

Jesus also said to render unto Caesar. But that's none of my business.

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

 

[NYcarbineer]

In the UK there is the living wage which is $11.14 and the minimum wage which is $9.31.
The minimum wage is statutory and goes up each year with inflation. The living wage is voluntary and is calculated as what is needed to keep body and soul together. Neither figure is particularly inspiring.

Many companies now make a big noise that they are living wage employers as they see it being good for business. Oddly enough there is a reluctance to pay the living wage amongst football clubs who are the greediest businesses on this planet.

The reason that we have a minimum wage is that if we didnt then employers would pay less and leave society to pick up the tab. In a world where income disparity is widening the minimum wage needs to be higher.

Very true.

People argue that raising our minimum wage above 7.25 was going to cost millions of jobs. Places like Walmart would eliminate all sorts of jobs because they couldn't afford to pay a higher minimum wage.

In the meantime, ironically, a while back, Walmart announced they were raising their own 'minimum wage' to 9 bucks an hour.

ok nine for walmarts------not 15

The current national minimum wage is 7.25. That is what the anti's have been arguing is high enough.

ok 7.25 seems good enough to me-------I was paid---1.25-----and managed to
attend college. I do not think MINIMUM wage means--------fine enough to
support a family of five-------auto mobile----cell phones for all and----a few PC's---
and BIG SCREENS. It means----jobs for kids and entry level-----TO START

When you were paid 1.25 it had more buying power than 7.25 does today. According to your own argument, you were overpaid back then.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

JESUS said to feed the hungry and poor. Not have the government confiscate the money from others.

Jesus also said to render unto Caesar. But that's none of my business.

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

 

[NYcarbineer]

JESUS said to feed the hungry and poor. Not have the government confiscate the money from others.

Jesus also said to render unto Caesar. But that's none of my business.

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Which meant shut up and pay your taxes.

 

[Iceweasel]

Someone on minimum wage with a family will get your tax dollars for food, shelter, heat, healthcare, education, etc.

...because of liberals. Which screws up the economy as evidence shows.

 

[Rustic]

Is it up to the government to decide on what a fair minimum wage is??
Cause the last I saw, the government's books suck. Career politicians and their government have zero idea how to run an successful business, proof is in their own financial behavior.
The emperor has no clothes...

 

[NYcarbineer]

JESUS said to feed the hungry and poor. Not have the government confiscate the money from others.

Jesus also said to render unto Caesar. But that's none of my business.

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

It's irrelevant what Frank added. Christ's admonition to the questioners was they should pay their taxes because they were rightfully owed.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Jesus also said to render unto Caesar. But that's none of my business.

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

It's irrelevant what Frank added. Christ's admonition to the questioners was they should pay their taxes because they were rightfully owed.

You don't decide what is relevant, get over yourself loon

 

[g5000]

Jesus also said to render unto Caesar. But that's none of my business.

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

It's irrelevant what Frank added. Christ's admonition to the questioners was they should pay their taxes because they were rightfully owed.

Jesus did not say they were rightfully owed. He was saying the running of governments had fuck-all to do with his Kingdom. Separation of church and state.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Someone on minimum wage with a family will get your tax dollars for food, shelter, heat, healthcare, education, etc.

...because of liberals. Which screws up the economy as evidence shows.

So you prefer the person with children who works for minimum wage get nothing in assistance,

and then from that minimum wage job try to feed clothe house educate and keep healthy that family.

Sink or swim. Put the kids to work dump picking like they do in the third world.

Sorry, clown, it's not going to happen here.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

It's irrelevant what Frank added. Christ's admonition to the questioners was they should pay their taxes because they were rightfully owed.

You don't decide what is relevant, get over yourself loon

Make the argument that it's relevant. Make your point.

oh, right, you have none.

 

[g5000]

Oregon has a very screwed up tax structure, and Oregonians never saw a tax hike they didn't like. Because their tax hikes generally involve taxing that guy over there more.

They should ditch all their different taxes and go with a sales tax. Make the assholes pay for all the shit they want out of their own pockets.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think you left out part of what he said there

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

It's irrelevant what Frank added. Christ's admonition to the questioners was they should pay their taxes because they were rightfully owed.

Jesus did not say they were rightfully owed. He was saying the running of governments had fuck-all to do with his Kingdom. Separation of church and state.

Yes he did. 'the things which are Caesar's' refers to tax money to which Caesar, i.e., the government, had a rightful, legal claim.

Why else would he be telling them to pay up?

 

[g5000]

I think if they gave the states an IQ test, Oregon would come out in the bottom five percentile.

 

[SwimExpert]

I think you left out part of what he said there

If you think the one part has anything to do with the other part, then you've clearly failed to understand the whole part.

 

[g5000]

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

It's irrelevant what Frank added. Christ's admonition to the questioners was they should pay their taxes because they were rightfully owed.

Jesus did not say they were rightfully owed. He was saying the running of governments had fuck-all to do with his Kingdom. Separation of church and state.

Yes he did. 'the things which are Caesar's' refers to tax money to which Caesar, i.e., the government, had a rightful, legal claim.

Why else would he be telling them to pay up?

You are suffering from the affliction that bleevs no tax is too high.

 

[SwimExpert]

I think if they gave the states an IQ test, Oregon would come out in the bottom five percentile.

No fair including the Brady Bunch, they're out-of-staters.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

He said pay your taxes.

"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."

Yeah, if you're going to invoke Jesus it's best to use all of what He said

It's irrelevant what Frank added. Christ's admonition to the questioners was they should pay their taxes because they were rightfully owed.

You don't decide what is relevant, get over yourself loon

Make the argument that it's relevant. Make your point.

oh, right, you have none.

My point is don't use part of what Jesus said, it's cheap. Now gfy and get past I take anything you say with a grain of salt.

 

[g5000]

The socialist like to focus on the people they bleev they are helping, and avoid looking at the people from whom they are taking.

If they do look at the people from whom they are stealing, they convince themselves the person being robbed deserved it.

I can't stand that kind of person who thinks that way. I really, really, really can't. I fucking hate them to the core of my being.

 

[Rustic]

If you can't pay a decent wage in the US and make money, then you should go out of business, or find a new way of doing business.

Any successful business pays more than minimum wage for anyone doing the job. Otherwise people will leave. Many jobs are low skilled and starter wages is good for the business because they can't hire people to lose money and it's good for the person to begin life in the work force.

You thinking it's a good idea for businesses to shut down instead proves you know nothing about business, economics or the job market.

The notion that there all these people trying to raise families on MW is a total fraud.

It's irrelevant.

It;s highly relevant.... we're talking about for the most part unskilled kids.

So? I don't think we should punish kids WILLING TO WORK in this day and age with shit wages.

Depends on what they are doing, flipping burgers and stocking shelves is worth 7$ max. Digging ditches more like 10$ so and so forth...
The progressives fail to understand some jobs can only be paying so much...
They can't be running people's businesses and expect any success... Because career politicians and their federal government have less than zero credibility in these areas...

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

If you can't pay a decent wage in the US and make money, then you should go out of business, or find a new way of doing business.

Any successful business pays more than minimum wage for anyone doing the job. Otherwise people will leave. Many jobs are low skilled and starter wages is good for the business because they can't hire people to lose money and it's good for the person to begin life in the work force.

You thinking it's a good idea for businesses to shut down instead proves you know nothing about business, economics or the job market.

The notion that there all these people trying to raise families on MW is a total fraud.

It's irrelevant.

It;s highly relevant.... we're talking about for the most part unskilled kids.

So? I don't think we should punish kids WILLING TO WORK in this day and age with shit wages.

Nobody's punishing anyone. Jesus Christ you libs are such pansies.

It's a fine inducement to achieve... throwing $15/hr wages at burger flippers and fry basket droppers is absurd. A chimp can do those jobs.