Red Jen Psaki invites disgraced clown Dan Rather back to White House press room

[Rigby5]

Dan Rather was like Richard Nixon. Rather covered Nixon’s fall with Watergate. It was Nixon’s obsession to beat his political enemies at any cost. That obsession cost him his job and tainted his legacy. Rather was obsessed in trying to bring down his political enemies, the Republicans and George W.Bush. That obsession cost him his job and his legacy. As good a journalist Rather is, how could he not authenticate documents he used as proof that Bush was AWOL in the National Guard? It was Rather’s coordinated October surprise and it blew up in his face. As a stalwart journalist, how do you present documents created in Microsoft Word from 1972 as fact? Microsoft didn’t even start until 1974 and MS Word was launched in 1983.

Wrong.
It has been later verified that Bush did not show up for his National Guard duties, just as Rather said.

And you are wrong about the documents.
They were NOT created by Microsoft Word.
They were printed on an IBM Selectric typewriter, which is what Microsoft Word used as its model to replicate when they adopted the proportional font that the IBM Selectric used.
The IBM Selectric came out in 1961, with a proportional font capability.

 

[jbander]

Dan Rather was like Richard Nixon. Rather covered Nixon’s fall with Watergate. It was Nixon’s obsession to beat his political enemies at any cost. That obsession cost him his job and tainted his legacy. Rather was obsessed in trying to bring down his political enemies, the Republicans and George W.Bush. That obsession cost him his job and his legacy. As good a journalist Rather is, how could he not authenticate documents he used as proof that Bush was AWOL in the National Guard? It was Rather’s coordinated October surprise and it blew up in his face. As a stalwart journalist, how do you present documents created in Microsoft Word from 1972 as fact? Microsoft didn’t even start until 1974 and MS Word was launched in 1983.

Your making a case for Rather being fired with bullshit. Try using facts and the truth will get a little closer.
"Before April 1972, Bush had fulfilled more than the required hours of service, but with more than two years remaining before his discharge. He volunteered his services on several projects, including a political campaign. After April 1972, Bush may have failed to meet the attendance requirements established for members of the Air National Guard. In mid-1972, he failed to meet the Air Force requirement for an annual physical examination for pilots and lost his authorization to be a pilot.[10] According to Bush's pay records, he did not attend any drills between mid-April and the end of October 1972. He drilled in Alabama in October and November 1972, and again in January 1973; what duties he performed are unknown. Bush returned to his home unit in Houston and was paid for his service in April 1973 through July 1973; again, what duties he performed are not documented in any way. " George W. Bush military service controversy George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia

Here is a air squadron during the Vietnam war that was never sent to Vietnam. You people are a joke. Hasn't changed none went to desert storm either.

 

[jbander]

"It was May 27, 1968, at the height of the Vietnam War. Bush was 12 days away from losing his student deferment from the draft at a time when Americans were dying in combat at the rate of 350 a week. The unit Bush wanted to join offered him the chance to fulfill his military commitment at a base in Texas. It was seen as an escape route from Vietnam by many men his age, and usually had a long waiting list.

Bush had scored only 25 percent on a "pilot aptitude" test, the lowest acceptable grade. But his father was then a congressman from Houston, and the commanders of the Texas Guard clearly had an appreciation of politics.

Bush was sworn in as an airman the same day he applied. His commander, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, was apparently so pleased to have a VIP's son in his unit that he later staged a special ceremony so he could have his picture taken administering the oath, instead of the captain who actually had sworn Bush in. Later, when Bush was commissioned a second lieutenant by another subordinate, Staudt again staged a special ceremony for the cameras, this time with Bush's father the congressman – a supporter of the Vietnam War – standing proudly in the background."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072899.htm

THE WHOLE STORY IS HERE.

 

[jbander]

THE BOZO RIGHT IS FUN TO PLAY WITH! The right sources and Opinion Bullshit
My sources all 100%

 

[jbander]

You know what? I know that OJ Simpson was guilty,like I know Bush hid from Vietnam.

 

[Circe]

I think this is great, actually. There's nothing that better represents Joe Biden's administration than a disgraced former reporter who lost his job over a fake story he pushed because he was mad at the president.

LOL

"It's true, it's just not factual," was not Dan Rather's best moment.

I remember him when he was truly great. Time passes, things change.

 

[Circe]

It was claimed the documents he used were forgeries due to the use of a proportional font, but many printers back then, like the IBM Selectrics, had proportional font capabilities. They were just not as common as the uniform spacing printers.

Naaaaaah, I remember all that! I was very up on the typing of the time (were we up to printers?? I think it was about those word processors, IIRC). It was definitely fake. I remember being very shocked; Dan Rather was something of a hero to me, for excellent reasons, but he had a feet-of-clay moment there.

Hasn't he been in Hawaii all this time? Not quite as bad as Purgatorio, but still.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

I think this is great, actually. There's nothing that better represents Joe Biden's administration than a disgraced former reporter who lost his job over a fake story he pushed because he was mad at the president.

LOL

First he is not disgraced, no biggy >the humor is ,this is from the party that had Rush the biggest liar in the Media, him being buried is the best thing that could happen for this great country. , the hate Nazi Hannity and there main source is Fox Crap news . Biggest liar media group by all standards.

Why did CBS fire Rather?

No the question is since Rush Hanity Ingraham's and Carlson are 100 times worse then Rather, why would we even take your silliness seriously.

Lol. You guys are so ridiculous, and getting worse by the day. Morons , I swear.

 

[Rigby5]

It was claimed the documents he used were forgeries due to the use of a proportional font, but many printers back then, like the IBM Selectrics, had proportional font capabilities. They were just not as common as the uniform spacing printers.

Naaaaaah, I remember all that! I was very up on the typing of the time (were we up to printers?? I think it was about those word processors, IIRC). It was definitely fake. I remember being very shocked; Dan Rather was something of a hero to me, for excellent reasons, but he had a feet-of-clay moment there.

Hasn't he been in Hawaii all this time? Not quite as bad as Purgatorio, but still.

You are absolutely and completely wrong.
The documents were definitely NOT faked.

First
They clearly were written out by hand on an IBM Selectric typewriter, which used a ball that had proportional fonts.
Meaning that unlike most type writers, it used less space for skinny characters like in 'i', than a wide character like a 'w'.
Anyone who ever used an IBM Selectric type writer, which is most people, should know that.
There is absolutely no way to know whether someone used an IBM Selectronic typewriter or used a word processing program and a printer, by comparing the spacing.
Word processors deliberately copied the spacing of the IBM Selectronic type writer, as their attempted standard.

Second is that there were plenty of word processors by 1968.
{...
The word processor was a stand-alone office machine in the 1960s, combining the keyboard text-entry and printing functions of an electric typewriter with a recording unit, either tape or floppy disk (as used by the Wang machine) with a simple dedicated computer processor for the editing of text.[1] Although features and designs varied among manufacturers and models, and new features were added as technology advanced, the first word processors typically featured a monochrome display and the ability to save documents on memory cards or diskettes. Later models introduced innovations such as spell-checking programs, and improved formatting options.

As the more versatile combination of personal computers and printers became commonplace, and computer software applications for word processing became popular, most business machine companies stopped manufacturing dedicated word processor machines. As of 2009 there were only two U.S. companies, Classic and AlphaSmart, which still made them.[2][needs update] Many older machines, however, remain in use. Since 2009, Sentinel has offered a machine described as a "word processor", but it is more accurately a highly specialised microcomputer used for accounting and publishing.[3]
...}

Third is that if it were a word processor instead of an IBM Selectronic, then you would have seen a matrix of dots forming each letter, and there were no signs of that. The characters were smooth, like an IBM Selectronic.

Anyone claiming there is proof of faked documents, is just crazy.

 

[Circe]

Anyone claiming there is proof of faked documents, is just crazy.

Naaaah, I went over it and did research for a long time at that time: it was sort of important, in a small way. And I knew about this issue, so I wanted to satisfy myself.

IIRC, and I don't remember much since it's been so long, the real problem was the fractions. 1/3 and 1/2 showed up in the document the way they now do in Word, small numbers on top of each other, and that didn't come in until well after these older documents were supposed to have been written.

The basic problem was that they forged documents on typing machines that hadn't been invented at the time the documents had supposedly been written, way back during the Vietnam War. It was clear --- I was knowledgeable about all those styles, old to new, and I am satisfied fakes had been wrongly produced.

So were most people: they did fire Dan Rather.

 

[Rigby5]

Anyone claiming there is proof of faked documents, is just crazy.

Naaaah, I went over it and did research for a long time at that time: it was sort of important, in a small way. And I knew about this issue, so I wanted to satisfy myself.

IIRC, and I don't remember much since it's been so long, the real problem was the fractions. 1/3 and 1/2 showed up in the document the way they now do in Word, small numbers on top of each other, and that didn't come in until well after these older documents were supposed to have been written.

The basic problem was that they forged documents on typing machines that hadn't been invented at the time the documents had supposedly been written, way back during the Vietnam War. It was clear --- I was knowledgeable about all those styles, old to new, and I am satisfied fakes had been wrongly produced.

So were most people: they did fire Dan Rather.

You still are totally and completely wrong.
The IBM Selectric, and all word processors of the 60s, had the capability of small, single character space, fractions.
Here is one example of an IBM Selectric font with small fractions as a single char.

 

[Circe]

Here is one example of an IBM Selectric font with small fractions as a single char.

Yes, thank you, that is a good example of what I meant.

You are welcome, of course, to your own reality and beliefs ---- I applaud people hewing to their own realities, though I may not participate in these realities myself, necessarily.

 

[two_iron]

Rather is worse than disgraced.... bryan what's-his-face that continues to lie for one of those marxist outlets with 8 viewers is ecstatic his tombstone won't say The.Worst.Fucking.Reporter.Evah! ™

It wasn't the childish lying, it was the doubling and tripling down on it and then leaning into it while everyone within 200 miles was running for the hills. That marxist fuck will always be the consummate laughingstock of this country. It literally killed journalism and turned it into the shit show it is to this day with a 7% trust factor.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Dan Rather was like Richard Nixon. Rather covered Nixon’s fall with Watergate. It was Nixon’s obsession to beat his political enemies at any cost. That obsession cost him his job and tainted his legacy. Rather was obsessed in trying to bring down his political enemies, the Republicans and George W.Bush. That obsession cost him his job and his legacy. As good a journalist Rather is, how could he not authenticate documents he used as proof that Bush was AWOL in the National Guard? It was Rather’s coordinated October surprise and it blew up in his face. As a stalwart journalist, how do you present documents created in Microsoft Word from 1972 as fact? Microsoft didn’t even start until 1974 and MS Word was launched in 1983.

Wrong.
It has been later verified that Bush did not show up for his National Guard duties, just as Rather said.

And you are wrong about the documents.
They were NOT created by Microsoft Word.
They were printed on an IBM Selectric typewriter, which is what Microsoft Word used as its model to replicate when they adopted the proportional font that the IBM Selectric used.
The IBM Selectric came out in 1961, with a proportional font capability.

If what you are saying is true, why then was Rather forced out of CBS? Why did other people lose their jobs at CBS over this event? Bush may have been AWOL but Rather and company didn’t prove shit. Where and when was the IBM Selectric verified in this event? Further, did Rather use them?

 

[jbander]

It was claimed the documents he used were forgeries due to the use of a proportional font, but many printers back then, like the IBM Selectrics, had proportional font capabilities. They were just not as common as the uniform spacing printers.

Naaaaaah, I remember all that! I was very up on the typing of the time (were we up to printers?? I think it was about those word processors, IIRC). It was definitely fake. I remember being very shocked; Dan Rather was something of a hero to me, for excellent reasons, but he had a feet-of-clay moment there.

Hasn't he been in Hawaii all this time? Not quite as bad as Purgatorio, but still.

That's bullshit. they were found on typewriters also ace.

 

[jbander]

I think this is great, actually. There's nothing that better represents Joe Biden's administration than a disgraced former reporter who lost his job over a fake story he pushed because he was mad at the president.

LOL

First he is not disgraced, no biggy >the humor is ,this is from the party that had Rush the biggest liar in the Media, him being buried is the best thing that could happen for this great country. , the hate Nazi Hannity and there main source is Fox Crap news . Biggest liar media group by all standards.

Why did CBS fire Rather?

No the question is since Rush Hanity Ingraham's and Carlson are 100 times worse then Rather, why would we even take your silliness seriously.

Lol. You guys are so ridiculous, and getting worse by the day. Morons , I swear.

You live in a world where facts are always your biggest enemy. bullshit is a way of life for your hate group.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Dan Rather was like Richard Nixon. Rather covered Nixon’s fall with Watergate. It was Nixon’s obsession to beat his political enemies at any cost. That obsession cost him his job and tainted his legacy. Rather was obsessed in trying to bring down his political enemies, the Republicans and George W.Bush. That obsession cost him his job and his legacy. As good a journalist Rather is, how could he not authenticate documents he used as proof that Bush was AWOL in the National Guard? It was Rather’s coordinated October surprise and it blew up in his face. As a stalwart journalist, how do you present documents created in Microsoft Word from 1972 as fact? Microsoft didn’t even start until 1974 and MS Word was launched in 1983.

Your making a case for Rather being fired with bullshit. Try using facts and the truth will get a little closer.
"Before April 1972, Bush had fulfilled more than the required hours of service, but with more than two years remaining before his discharge. He volunteered his services on several projects, including a political campaign. After April 1972, Bush may have failed to meet the attendance requirements established for members of the Air National Guard. In mid-1972, he failed to meet the Air Force requirement for an annual physical examination for pilots and lost his authorization to be a pilot.[10] According to Bush's pay records, he did not attend any drills between mid-April and the end of October 1972. He drilled in Alabama in October and November 1972, and again in January 1973; what duties he performed are unknown. Bush returned to his home unit in Houston and was paid for his service in April 1973 through July 1973; again, what duties he performed are not documented in any way. " George W. Bush military service controversy George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia

Here is a air squadron during the Vietnam war that was never sent to Vietnam. You people are a joke. Hasn't changed none went to desert storm either.

Im not debating Bush and service. That is for another debate. This is about Rather and Company not authenticating the documents to back it up. Why even go with documents if this was already confirmed or common knowledge? Further, in the aftermath, documents used by Rather and people fired were presented to experts and they could not be authenticated. This cost Rather and others their jobs.

CBS fires 4 executives, producers over Bush-National Guard report

CBS News fired four executives and senior producers yesterday, after an independent panel concluded that a “myopic zeal” to beat the competition on a story about President Bush’s …

www.baltimoresun.com

 

[jbander]

Anyone claiming there is proof of faked documents, is just crazy.

Naaaah, I went over it and did research for a long time at that time: it was sort of important, in a small way. And I knew about this issue, so I wanted to satisfy myself.

IIRC, and I don't remember much since it's been so long, the real problem was the fractions. 1/3 and 1/2 showed up in the document the way they now do in Word, small numbers on top of each other, and that didn't come in until well after these older documents were supposed to have been written.

The basic problem was that they forged documents on typing machines that hadn't been invented at the time the documents had supposedly been written, way back during the Vietnam War. It was clear --- I was knowledgeable about all those styles, old to new, and I am satisfied fakes had been wrongly produced.

So were most people: they did fire Dan Rather.

You still are totally and completely wrong.
The IBM Selectric, and all word processors of the 60s, had the capability of small, single character space, fractions.
Here is one example of an IBM Selectric font with small fractions as a single char.

These haters as a party wouldn't exist without lies. His long oratory on his proclaimed expertise makes a total clown out of his routine, he knows it all , he did a study.

 

[jbander]

Here is one example of an IBM Selectric font with small fractions as a single char.

Yes, thank you, that is a good example of what I meant.

You are welcome, of course, to your own reality and beliefs ---- I applaud people hewing to their own realities, though I may not participate in these realities myself, necessarily.

Good example of watching you, Mr expert being made into a buffoon who has no clue. Love it , it's like shooting ducks in a barrel. I always feel like a bully dealing with people like you , trying to bluff your way through your bullshit makes it that much more humorous. You lose ace!

 

[jbander]

Dan Rather was like Richard Nixon. Rather covered Nixon’s fall with Watergate. It was Nixon’s obsession to beat his political enemies at any cost. That obsession cost him his job and tainted his legacy. Rather was obsessed in trying to bring down his political enemies, the Republicans and George W.Bush. That obsession cost him his job and his legacy. As good a journalist Rather is, how could he not authenticate documents he used as proof that Bush was AWOL in the National Guard? It was Rather’s coordinated October surprise and it blew up in his face. As a stalwart journalist, how do you present documents created in Microsoft Word from 1972 as fact? Microsoft didn’t even start until 1974 and MS Word was launched in 1983.

Your making a case for Rather being fired with bullshit. Try using facts and the truth will get a little closer.
"Before April 1972, Bush had fulfilled more than the required hours of service, but with more than two years remaining before his discharge. He volunteered his services on several projects, including a political campaign. After April 1972, Bush may have failed to meet the attendance requirements established for members of the Air National Guard. In mid-1972, he failed to meet the Air Force requirement for an annual physical examination for pilots and lost his authorization to be a pilot.[10] According to Bush's pay records, he did not attend any drills between mid-April and the end of October 1972. He drilled in Alabama in October and November 1972, and again in January 1973; what duties he performed are unknown. Bush returned to his home unit in Houston and was paid for his service in April 1973 through July 1973; again, what duties he performed are not documented in any way. " George W. Bush military service controversy George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia

Here is a air squadron during the Vietnam war that was never sent to Vietnam. You people are a joke. Hasn't changed none went to desert storm either.

Im not debating Bush and service. That is for another debate. This is about Rather and Company not authenticating the documents to back it up. Why even go with documents if this was already confirmed or common knowledge? Further, in the aftermath, documents used by Rather and people fired were presented to experts and they could not be authenticated. This cost Rather and others their jobs.

CBS fires 4 executives, producers over Bush-National Guard report

CBS News fired four executives and senior producers yesterday, after an independent panel concluded that a “myopic zeal” to beat the competition on a story about President Bush’s …

www.baltimoresun.com

What you were shown my blind friend is that the truth of the matter and the whole point of what Rather said is so so true .Bush was put in this national guard company when They had a list a mile long to get into it, and he wasn't on that list . Why because it was a place to go to stay out of Vietnam. That's the point. He signed up two days before he would have been drafted. Rather's only misdeeds was saying that it was backed up. Which he could have easily thought that to be the case. Rather did nothing. The fact of the matter is that by all the facts, what he said was 100% true .He was never fired , that is just stupid. He retired two years after the program about Rather.. How stupid can you clowns get.