Red states building a nation within a nation

[Batcat]

Making their states even worse places to live and invest is apparently a winning strategy for them. Oh well Amazon always needs more box stuffers.

If the red states are so bad explain why people are leaving New York City and California and moving to Texas and Florida.

Why New York and California are losing people, power to Texas and Florida

Where the people go, political power follows.

nypost.com

The videos I often see show New York City to be a hell hole of random violence and San Francisco to be a literal shit hole with feces in the streets and hypodermic needles lying around everywhere.

It seems the criminal element is moving to the blue cites as if they get caught they will likely spend less time in prison and may even get to walk without posting any bail.

 

[WTF19]

A good summary of the movement to create a sub-culture (or sub-country really) within America by the right. Basically its another assault by the red states to suppress the rights of Americans within their state borders.. last time being Jim Crow. Everything old is new again, or history repeats itself if you prefer.

Red states are building a nation within a nation - CNNPolitics

"It's not at the level of Jim Crow, or certainly the difference between slave states and free states, but the differences are major," says Jake Grumbach, a University of Washington political scientist who studies divergence among the states. And like Kettl, Grumbach believes the economic and political differences between the red and blue states are on track to only widen.

Seen as a whole, the red states' drive to set their own rules, while blocking any interference from either blue-leaning local governments or a Democratic-controlled federal government, represents the broadest effort to carve out a separate sphere of influence since the fierce resistance to reconstruction across the South after the Civil War that ultimately led to Jim Crow segregation, Kettl believes. In some respects, he argues, red states are displaying a greater separatist impulse today than the South did then.

For now, Kettl sees the initial red state Republican goal primarily as consolidating these new rules and blocking any interference -- what he calls "an effort to build very high castle walls with a very deep moat." But like Grumbach and other experts on state policy, Kettl is dubious that Republicans will settle for imposing their values solely on the states now under their control. As the red states pursue a more consistent and coordinated course, Kettl predicts that Republicans will "try to impose [this] policy on the nation as a whole" if they achieve the federal power to do so.

Blue states such as California, New York, Illinois and Colorado have moved forcefully over the past two years to expand many of the liberties now under siege in the red states. But congressional Republicans while in the minority have already introduced proposals that would apply the red state rules across the entire nation on many of these same issues. The new social order red states are now sketching behind their "castle" walls may offer the best preview of what Republicans will try to impose on all states the next time they achieve unified control of the White House and Congress in Washington.

IF YOU ONLY HAD A BRAIN

 

[IM2]

Nope, we just have to bring back what we had here.

We won't be going back to that.

 

[WTF19]

Making their states even worse places to live and invest is apparently a winning strategy for them. Oh well Amazon always needs more box stuffers.

IF YOU ONLY HAD A BRAIN

 

[WTF19]

I've been saying it for weeks: We're going to look like the Middle East, with stark differences between the states based on the nature and intensity of their religious dogma.

I wonder how many of the rubes fully understand what they're backing.

i wonder how many retards, like you, fully understand what they are backing....

IF YOU ONLY HAD A BRAIN

 

[WTF19]

Conservatives think they can make America look like a Hallmark movie.

IF YOU ONLY HAD A BRAIN

 

[WTF19]

No matter how many rights and liberties they’ll destroy to do it.

IF YOU ONLY HAD A BRAIN

 

[IM2]

If the red states are so bad explain why people are leaving New York City and California and moving to Texas and Florida.

Why New York and California are losing people, power to Texas and Florida

Where the people go, political power follows.

nypost.com

The videos I often see show New York City to be a hell hole of random violence and San Francisco to be a literal shit hole with feces in the streets and hypodermic needles lying around everywhere.

We have seen what happens to the country under Republican rule. A collapsed economy headed for depression and a mismanaged pandemic that killed several hundred thousand and is the cause of our problems now.

 

[Lastamender]

A good summary of the movement to create a sub-culture (or sub-country really) within America by the right. Basically its another assault by the red states to suppress the rights of Americans within their state borders.. last time being Jim Crow. Everything old is new again, or history repeats itself if you prefer.

Red states are building a nation within a nation - CNNPolitics

"It's not at the level of Jim Crow, or certainly the difference between slave states and free states, but the differences are major," says Jake Grumbach, a University of Washington political scientist who studies divergence among the states. And like Kettl, Grumbach believes the economic and political differences between the red and blue states are on track to only widen.

Seen as a whole, the red states' drive to set their own rules, while blocking any interference from either blue-leaning local governments or a Democratic-controlled federal government, represents the broadest effort to carve out a separate sphere of influence since the fierce resistance to reconstruction across the South after the Civil War that ultimately led to Jim Crow segregation, Kettl believes. In some respects, he argues, red states are displaying a greater separatist impulse today than the South did then.

For now, Kettl sees the initial red state Republican goal primarily as consolidating these new rules and blocking any interference -- what he calls "an effort to build very high castle walls with a very deep moat." But like Grumbach and other experts on state policy, Kettl is dubious that Republicans will settle for imposing their values solely on the states now under their control. As the red states pursue a more consistent and coordinated course, Kettl predicts that Republicans will "try to impose [this] policy on the nation as a whole" if they achieve the federal power to do so.

Blue states such as California, New York, Illinois and Colorado have moved forcefully over the past two years to expand many of the liberties now under siege in the red states. But congressional Republicans while in the minority have already introduced proposals that would apply the red state rules across the entire nation on many of these same issues. The new social order red states are now sketching behind their "castle" walls may offer the best preview of what Republicans will try to impose on all states the next time they achieve unified control of the White House and Congress in Washington.

I hope so.

 

[otto105]

Good thing we got rid of the Dimwinger Jim Crow laws, huh IQ2?

Why do you blindly worship the racist Dimwinger party?

When is English used in your posts boi?

 

[Batcat]

We have seen what happens to the country under Republican rule. A collapsed economy headed for depression and a mismanaged pandemic that killed several hundred thousand and is the cause of our problems now.

But under a Democrat, Joe Biden, we have a recession and skyrocketing inflation.

Plus you give Trump no credit for Operation Warp Speed which got us the vaccines for COVID-19 in record time. If Hillary had been elected President we might still be waiting for the first vaccine.

Fauci’s boss says Trump admin deserves credit for COVID vaccine development

The Trump administration deserves credit for the “breathtaking” speed at which two COVID-19 vaccines were developed, Dr. Anthony Fauci’s boss said. Speaking to “Axios on HBO…

nypost.com

The Trump administration deserves credit for the “breathtaking” speed at which two COVID-19 vaccines were developed, Dr. Anthony Fauci’s boss said.

Speaking to “Axios on HBO” in an interview released Monday evening, National Institutes of Health director Dr. Francis Collins made the remarks after being asked what the previous administration got right in their pandemic response.

***snip***

Collins went on to mention Dr. Moncef Slaoui, who led Operation Warp Speed under Trump, calling his recruitment “an incredibly important step forward that the administration deserves credit for, because that did motivate a lot of actions, a lot of coordination.”

Collins marveled at the speed at which pharma giants such as Moderna and Pfizer developed vaccines with such high efficacy rates that were approved by the FDA by mid-December.

“It’s just breathtaking that that got done in 11 months from when we first knew about this virus. It is at least five years faster than it has ever been done before.”…emphasis added

 

[Friends]

The best time for America was the fifties. People in red states realize this. Moving back in that direction is a good thing.

During the 1950's the top tax rate never got below 89%, and was usually higher. One third of the work force belonged to labor unions. Republicans do not want to restore those conditions.

 

[BrokeLoser]

A good summary of the movement to create a sub-culture (or sub-country really) within America by the right. Basically its another assault by the red states to suppress the rights of Americans within their state borders.. last time being Jim Crow. Everything old is new again, or history repeats itself if you prefer.

Red states are building a nation within a nation - CNNPolitics

"It's not at the level of Jim Crow, or certainly the difference between slave states and free states, but the differences are major," says Jake Grumbach, a University of Washington political scientist who studies divergence among the states. And like Kettl, Grumbach believes the economic and political differences between the red and blue states are on track to only widen.

Seen as a whole, the red states' drive to set their own rules, while blocking any interference from either blue-leaning local governments or a Democratic-controlled federal government, represents the broadest effort to carve out a separate sphere of influence since the fierce resistance to reconstruction across the South after the Civil War that ultimately led to Jim Crow segregation, Kettl believes. In some respects, he argues, red states are displaying a greater separatist impulse today than the South did then.

For now, Kettl sees the initial red state Republican goal primarily as consolidating these new rules and blocking any interference -- what he calls "an effort to build very high castle walls with a very deep moat." But like Grumbach and other experts on state policy, Kettl is dubious that Republicans will settle for imposing their values solely on the states now under their control. As the red states pursue a more consistent and coordinated course, Kettl predicts that Republicans will "try to impose [this] policy on the nation as a whole" if they achieve the federal power to do so.

Blue states such as California, New York, Illinois and Colorado have moved forcefully over the past two years to expand many of the liberties now under siege in the red states. But congressional Republicans while in the minority have already introduced proposals that would apply the red state rules across the entire nation on many of these same issues. The new social order red states are now sketching behind their "castle" walls may offer the best preview of what Republicans will try to impose on all states the next time they achieve unified control of the White House and Congress in Washington.

Making their states even worse places to live and invest is apparently a winning strategy for them. Oh well Amazon always needs more box stuffers.

What is it they want to do but can’t?

What are they being denied?

I've been saying it for weeks: We're going to look like the Middle East, with stark differences between the states based on the nature and intensity of their religious dogma.

I wonder how many of the rubes fully understand what they're backing.

If they would just let them say the N word without reprisal half these people would give up watching politics and go watch wrasslin'.

And they do that by controlling the states.

The states decide who the president is, not the people.

The states decide who controls the Senate, not the people.

And the states decide who controls the Federal judiciary, not the people – the president makes judicial nominations confirmed by the Senate, control of both determined by the states, not the people.

Indeed, conservatives have already taken control of the judiciary.

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Hey, by the way, kudos on that Orwell quote in your sig:

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Donald Trump, July 25, 2018:

"Don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. … What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

Wow. What a rube.

Never work. What the righty's never get, is they cant win the culture wars. They never have, and they never will.

They make temporary gains through sleaze and grift, only for the following generations to bury them.

There is a pendullum shift that is intergenerational, and swings further left with each shift. All one needs to do, is look at cultural shifts and accepted norms since WW2.

That's not happening in as large numbers as you'd like. And once red states ban abortion and other rights, people will be leaving.

Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed​

Monday, September 27, 2004

The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill.

The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States. Here are the Top 10 states that feed at the federal trough (with Red States highlighted in bold):

States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:


In contrast, of the 16 states that are "losers" -- receiving less in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 69% are Blue States that voted for Al Gore in 2000. Indeed, 11 of the 14 (79%) of the states receiving the least federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Blue States. Here are the Top 10 states that supply feed for the federal trough (with Blue States highlighted in bold):

States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

TaxProf Blog: Red States Feed At Federal Trough, Blue States Supply The Feed

Update: Red States Feed At Federal Trough, Blue States Supply The Feed (July 10, 2023) Monday, September 27, 2004 The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill. The report shows that of the...

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Damn good post.

I didn’t think of the current divide in that historical prism.

You're talkng about people who get their "news" from degenerates like Carlson, Hannity & Ingraham & who vote for & defend slime like Trump, MTG, Gaetz & Cruz.

There's no turning back for these people until the hammer comes down on THEM.

Some stuff that both party's do makes little to zero sense, Some extremes in California is maybe just a little too diverse.? & what's the deal with Kentucky, Its a poorer state but they still send back to the Senate Mitch Mc> Who has voted 15 times against any raise in the min wage, But has voted EVERY time to raise his own pay.

Can any of you hate America folks shows us any data to prove that a Make America Act White And Christian Again (MAAWACA) movement would be bad for the future of our once great, once all white, once all christian nation?
(be honest, did any of you piss your pants while reading this post?)

 

[Failzero]

G-d I wish it were true

 

[Failzero]

During the 1950's the top tax rate never got below 89%, and was usually higher. One third of the work force belonged to labor unions. Republicans do not want to restore those conditions.

1959 was Golden ( no matter how the Far Left & Left attempts to paint it

 

[Friends]

Paul Krugman??????????????????????????

Yes Paul Krugman. He won the Nobel Prize for Economics in 2008.

 

[Friends]

1959 was Golden ( no matter how the Far Left & Left attempts to paint it

I like the 1950's too, but the GOP only wishes to restore superficial aspects of that decade.

 

[otto105]

Can any of you hate America folks shows us any data to prove that a Make America Act White And Christian Again (MAAWACA) movement would be bad for the future of our once great, once all white, once all christian nation?
(be honest, did any of you piss your pants while reading this post?)

Lynching.


Denial of service.


Lack of competition


An NBA that can’t jump…

 

[BrokeLoser]

Lynching.


Denial of service.


Lack of competition


An NBA that can’t jump…

Like all sane legit Americans…I’d take it all back in a hot second if it meant no leftists

 

[Failzero]

Lynching.


Denial of service.


Lack of competition


An NBA that can’t jump…

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