Registration of firearms leads to confiscation

[GLASNOST]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

When the second amendment is repealed then denying you keeping and bearing arms won't be called infringement. It will be called honouring the Constitution and upholding the law.

 

[MagicMike]

Please point to the Amendment where abortion is mentioned.

The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment provides a "right to privacy."
I don't think you want to go down that "show me where it specifically says" route when comparing Second Amendment rights with others.

After all "arms" according to 2A is very specifically limited.
It's like me asking you to show me where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to own an AR-15....or a .44.....or a 12 gauge, or any other modern firearms.
All it says is "arms."

 

[ihealyou]

When the second amendment is repealed then denying you keeping and bearing arms won't be called infringement. It will be called honouring the Constitution and upholding the law.

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I don't care. I don't have a gun and I don't intend buying one.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... until your excessive speeding renders your license invalid.

Officer, I was exercising my pursuit of happiness, while enjoying my liberty.

"Get out of the car, show me your hands, turn your back towards me and walk in my direction until I say, 'stop'."

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't care. I don't have a gun and I don't intend buying one.

So, you're not as dumb as I first suspected.

 

[Delldude]

IF, as you say, the SCOTUS only "affirmed a constitutional right" in the 2008 Heller case then the same statement MUST apply to the 1973 Roe v. Wade case.

Either BOTH rulings simply affirmed a constitutional right or they were both cases of SCOTUS legislating from the bench.

And if the former is the case then the recent Dobbs v. Jackson ruling must be unconstitutional.

You are correct, Heller did affirm the constitutional rights, in the second amendment. That is what SCOTUS does, interpret law, not create it.

SCOTUS, some 50 years ago 'created' an abortion law which was a violation of the constitution.

There is no constitutional amendment nor any mention whatsoever in the COTUS of any abortion rights, there never was a law.

SCOTUS did what it is supposed to do, they interpreted the COTUS and under the 10th amendment, determined the federal gov't 'created' law which it had no business doing, under the COTUS.

 

[Delldude]

"Get out of the car, show me your hands, turn your back towards me and walk in my direction until I say, 'stop'."

Officer, I got bad gas.....

 

[Auld Phart]

The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment provides a "right to privacy."
I don't think you want to go down that "show me where it specifically says" route when comparing Second Amendment rights with others.

After all "arms" according to 2A is very specifically limited.
It's like me asking you to show me where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to own an AR-15....or a .44.....or a 12 gauge, or any other modern firearms.
All it says is "arms."

After all "arms" according to 2A is very specifically limited.

how are they limited?

it say you have a right to own an AR-15....or a .44.....or a 12 gauge, or any other modern firearms.

all of which are considered 'arms'

 

[beautress]

I don't care. I don't have a gun and I don't intend buying one.

I didn't either, ihealyou, until one of the dogs around here got bitten and died by its venom. Her replacement cost is $5,000. She was a Boston Terrier. There are no dogs quite like Boston Terriers. They are loyal and they love you completely. I hate guns too. But sometimes if you don't have one, snakes will get the idea there is nothing to fear by killing the dog you love with all your heart.

 

[MagicMike]

how are they limited?



all of which are considered 'arms'

And an abortion is a private medical procedure that is covered by the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.

 

[MagicMike]

You are correct, Heller did affirm the constitutional rights, in the second amendment. That is what SCOTUS does, interpret law, not create it.

SCOTUS, some 50 years ago 'created' an abortion law which was a violation of the constitution.

There is no constitutional amendment nor any mention whatsoever in the COTUS of any abortion rights, there never was a law.

SCOTUS did what it is supposed to do, they interpreted the COTUS and under the 10th amendment, determined the federal gov't 'created' law which it had no business doing, under the COTUS.

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You keep avoiding this question
What will happen if the directions of the NYPD are not followed?

In every jurisdiction where there is registration, firearms have never been ‘confiscated.’

Your thread premise is a lie.

 

[Auld Phart]

And an abortion is a private medical procedure that is covered by the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.

Hardly

you should change your avatar.

Here's a suggestion

or would this be more appropriate?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Militia is every single US citizen, public official or not + the National Guard.

Wrong.

Militia exist only as authorized by a state government or the Federal government.

Private armed citizens cannot unilaterally declare themselves a ‘militia’ – to do so is illegal.

See Presser v. Illinois (1886).

 

[Delldude]

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Ahem....

Privileges and Immunities Clause​

There has been some debate over the meaning of the Privileges and Immunities Clause with several possible original meanings. A question arises as to whether the clause meant that all state laws should be applied equally to its citizens or that state laws should have certain substantive content. The substantive view can be further divided into two categories. One view is that these privileges and immunities include all of the rights in the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights. Thus, this view sees the purpose of the Privileges and Immunities Clause as applying all of the rights in the Constitution to all of the states. Another view is that it only meant to make the Bill of Rights applicable to the states.

Amendment X​

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

 

[Auld Phart]

Wrong.

Militia exist only as authorized by a state government or the Federal government.

Private armed citizens cannot unilaterally declare themselves a ‘militia’ – to do so is illegal.

See Presser v. Illinois (1886).

See Presser v. Illinois (1886).

when did the Second go into effect?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The second is about the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms.

And its case law determines how the government regulates and limits that right.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

And limits and regulations on the Second Amendment right consistent with its case law do not constitute ‘infringement.’

 

[Delldude]

And an abortion is a private medical procedure that is covered by the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.

If so, why have the democrats been so vehement in depriving living humans in the womb of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness with state sponsored abortion?
This goes directly against your 14th amendment.

 

[Delldude]

In every jurisdiction where there is registration, firearms have never been ‘confiscated.’

Your thread premise is a lie.

Guess you forgot about 'Nawlin's during Hurricane Katrina.