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Religion's Fakes and Phonies.

As the old saying goes, 'Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.'



Upon opening the latest Columbia mag, I found his interesting letter to the editor....

A letter to the editors in the Fall 2014 Columbia University magazine:

"Luanne Zurlo’s letter to the editor (Summer 2014) could not have been better timed, as yesterday I finished reading "Absolute Monarchs," a very well-written history of the entire papacy by the well-respected historian John Julius Norwich.

Lord Norwich writes with specificity on the way Pope Pius XII remained silent time after time when a vigorous word would have made a significant difference in the plight of the Jews under Hitler.

He quotes the pope as referring to Judaism as a cult, and gives repeated evidence of the pope’s anti-Semitism. He also notes that the pope considered communism to be a greater threat to the papacy and himself personally than Nazi Germany was to the world, so he declined to raise a finger against the deportation of Roman Jews, lest in doing so it somehow might encourage a communist takeover of Rome.

Norwich notes that for the entire period after the war, “not one word of apology or regret, not a single requiem or Mass of Remembrance was held for the 1,989 Jewish deportees from Rome who had met their deaths at Auschwitz alone.”

Later, in describing the twilight of the pope’s life, he notes, “The old anti-Semitism was still in evidence: to his dying day he was to refuse recognition to the State of Israel.”
Andrew Alpern ’64GSAPP

New York, NY
Letters Fall 2014 Columbia Magazine




Wow.

Looks like "Absolute Monarchs" should go on a future reading list.



The Jewish and the JW,s were in the concentration camps-- both were exposing the trinity god as a false made up teaching misleading billions. They weren't very well liked by the other religions claiming to be Christian.
JW,s weren't there or in prisions around the world for cowardice, they refuse to kill their own brothers in Christ who would have been standing on the other side if allowed. Jesus would never condone it.
 
Tuckwolf -

Sixty years of recorded history back my case. So no, I'm not wrong.

P. Chic understands perfectly well that fascism is right wing. It's just her usual theatrical manner of accepting defeat. She does it on every thread.
 
Tuckwolf -

Sixty years of recorded history back my case. So no, I'm not wrong.

P. Chic understands perfectly well that fascism is right wing. It's just her usual theatrical manner of accepting defeat. She does it on every thread.
Correct.

It is a fundamental and accepted fact of history and political science that fascism manifests on the right side of the political spectrum; it is reactionary and authoritarian, consistent with rightist dogma.
 
Tuckwolf -

Sixty years of recorded history back my case. So no, I'm not wrong.

P. Chic understands perfectly well that fascism is right wing. It's just her usual theatrical manner of accepting defeat. She does it on every thread.



Words cannot limn how wrong you are.

For confirmation of same, explain why you won't respond to this query?

Nazism, communism, socialism....

1. Which come from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which uses genocide as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and slaughters its own citizens as pro forma....?
 
As the old saying goes, 'Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.'



Upon opening the latest Columbia mag, I found his interesting letter to the editor....

A letter to the editors in the Fall 2014 Columbia University magazine:

"Luanne Zurlo’s letter to the editor (Summer 2014) could not have been better timed, as yesterday I finished reading "Absolute Monarchs," a very well-written history of the entire papacy by the well-respected historian John Julius Norwich.

Lord Norwich writes with specificity on the way Pope Pius XII remained silent time after time when a vigorous word would have made a significant difference in the plight of the Jews under Hitler.

He quotes the pope as referring to Judaism as a cult, and gives repeated evidence of the pope’s anti-Semitism. He also notes that the pope considered communism to be a greater threat to the papacy and himself personally than Nazi Germany was to the world, so he declined to raise a finger against the deportation of Roman Jews, lest in doing so it somehow might encourage a communist takeover of Rome.

Norwich notes that for the entire period after the war, “not one word of apology or regret, not a single requiem or Mass of Remembrance was held for the 1,989 Jewish deportees from Rome who had met their deaths at Auschwitz alone.”

Later, in describing the twilight of the pope’s life, he notes, “The old anti-Semitism was still in evidence: to his dying day he was to refuse recognition to the State of Israel.”
Andrew Alpern ’64GSAPP

New York, NY
Letters Fall 2014 Columbia Magazine




Wow.

Looks like "Absolute Monarchs" should go on a future reading list.
lesson: Don't put faith in a man... especially if they wear goofy hats.
 
Tuckwolf -

Sixty years of recorded history back my case. So no, I'm not wrong.

P. Chic understands perfectly well that fascism is right wing. It's just her usual theatrical manner of accepting defeat. She does it on every thread.
Correct.

It is a fundamental and accepted fact of history and political science that fascism manifests on the right side of the political spectrum; it is reactionary and authoritarian, consistent with rightist dogma.



Placing Nazism, fascism in any category other than that which is reserved for totalitarian governing....i.e., with communism and socialism, is simply an obfuscation.
FDR had not problem with Hitler until the crematoria were revealed.

Dunces like you accept the sleight of hand, a way to hide your evil past.


Post #44 would apply to you, too...if you had the ability to understand its significance.
 
Yes. Organized religion is phoney goodness. I'm sure that everyone has more examples from their own experience than they can count
 
P. Chic -

I am not answering your question because I don't believe you are capable of understanding the answer.

Read the dictionary definition of the word 'fascism' posted earlier. Try and understand it. Think about it. THEN feel free to ask a question and I will answer it.
 
P. Chic -

I am not answering your question because I don't believe you are capable of understanding the answer.

Read the dictionary definition of the word 'fascism' posted earlier. Try and understand it. Think about it. THEN feel free to ask a question and I will answer it.


You're a liar.

You are afraid to answer the question because it proves that I am correct.
 
Yes. Organized religion is phoney goodness. I'm sure that everyone has more examples from their own experience than they can count


"Yes. Organized religion is phoney (sic) goodness."

To whom was "yes" directed?
I never said what you suggest.

Try to be more articulate...and try using spell-check.
 
P. Chic -

We already know that you are not correct. That isn't in question.

Here is ANIOTHER dictionary to prove it again. The only question is whether you are willing to learn, and I strongly doubt you are.


Definition of fascism in English:
noun
[mass noun]authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

fascism definition of fascism in Oxford dictionary British World English


Go away and learn, and then come back and ask questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
 
P. Chic -

We already know that you are not correct. That isn't in question.

Here is ANIOTHER dictionary to prove it again. The only question is whether you are willing to learn, and I strongly doubt you are.


Definition of fascism in English:
noun
[mass noun]authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

fascism definition of fascism in Oxford dictionary British World English


Go away and learn, and then come back and ask questions, I'll be happy to answer them.



"We"??

You have a tapeworm?



Nazism, communism, socialism...and fascism....

1. Which come from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which uses genocide as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and slaughters its own citizens as pro forma....?


Here's a hint, dolt:

Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. " Georges Sorel
Home NSSR
 
And some more fuel to this fire.....

2. "Alois Hudal(also known as Luigi Hudal; 31 May 1885 – 13 May 1963) was an Austrian titular bishop, based in Rome. For thirty years, he was the head of the Austrian-German congregation of Santa Maria dell'Anima in Rome and, until 1937, an influential representative of the Austrian Church.

In his 1937 book, "The Foundations of National Socialism," Hudal praised Adolf Hitler and his policies and indirectly attacked Vatican policies.

Well, in 1938 Hitler was "Man of the year" in TIME Magazine.
Get lost.
 
Yes. Organized religion is phoney goodness. I'm sure that everyone has more examples from their own experience than they can count


"Yes. Organized religion is phoney (sic) goodness."

To whom was "yes" directed?
I never said what you suggest.

Try to be more articulate...and try using spell-check.

My spell check accepts the English spelling.
 
Yes. Organized religion is phoney goodness. I'm sure that everyone has more examples from their own experience than they can count


"Yes. Organized religion is phoney (sic) goodness."

To whom was "yes" directed?
I never said what you suggest.

Try to be more articulate...and try using spell-check.

My spell check accepts the English spelling.


"Phony is the American spelling of the word meaning (1) not real, (2) not genuine, and (3) a false or inauthentic person or thing. In British English, Australian English, and other English varieties from outside North America, phoney is the preferred spelling. Canadian writers use both, though phony is more common."
Phony vs. phoney - Grammarist


Are you saying that you are posting from outside North America?
 
And some more fuel to this fire.....

2. "Alois Hudal(also known as Luigi Hudal; 31 May 1885 – 13 May 1963) was an Austrian titular bishop, based in Rome. For thirty years, he was the head of the Austrian-German congregation of Santa Maria dell'Anima in Rome and, until 1937, an influential representative of the Austrian Church.

In his 1937 book, "The Foundations of National Socialism," Hudal praised Adolf Hitler and his policies and indirectly attacked Vatican policies.

Well, in 1938 Hitler was "Man of the year" in TIME Magazine.
Get lost.


So....is yours a post in support of Hitler, Ahnungslosigkeit ?
 

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