Repeal it already!

Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.
Take millions of paying people out of the market and what happens to costs? You didn't factor that into the equation did you?

You do have a point, if they deregulate than insurers can create crap plans and sell them for dirt cheap and their competitors will follow suit. That's what was happening before ocare. I'm actually fine with allowing catastrophic plans and increaseing competition but let's be honest about the cause and effects that effect costs. Shall we?

It's up to me and my family to make that decision. If we don't WANT all the mandated O-Care features -- that's on us. Don't need you to tell me I need mental health or abortion services.

Best survival tool right now IS "catastrophic coverage". Because all the normal lower tier medical service prices could come WAAAAAYY the hell down if consumers and doctors actually KNEW the costs. They don't. That's one reason you see inflated rack rates on pharma and med services. Because the doctors and pharma negotiate "DISCOUNTS" with the insurers. And when the greedy insurers beat them up --- they raise their "rack rates".. NOBODY pays that rate. It's phony.

You could pay direct for most out-patient care and be way ahead if there was a freer price concious market. WITHOUT the insurers in the middle.
I'd love to cut out the middleman and take all the money that the insurance companies make and put that towards better medical care and lower pricing that people can actually afford. Unfortunately we are no where close to being able to do that with our current system
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Most of those "millions losing coverage" would be dropping willingly if the Mandate went away. Another fraction are "MediCaid Expansion" which should NEVER HAVE BEEN combined into a pooled insurance program.

MediCaid needs to go back as a BUDGETED ITEM. Not destroying the premium costs for OTHER MILLIONS of folks FORCED into the pool.. THEN -- it will be an honest deal..
Yes I've heard that talking point but it has nothing to do with evaluating the effects in costs for the market. Fact is losing millions raises pricing, plain and simple. Agreed?
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
O care will still be here after the 2018 elections, then it will give way to Trump care as there will be 20 more GOP members to vote
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
O care will still be here after the 2018 elections, then it will give way to Trump care as there will be 20 more GOP members to vote
What makes you think the GOP is going to pick up 20 seats? They haven't gotten shit done so far... our whole political system from congress to the White House is a complete Joke. One big circus. Do you really think people are taking these clowns seriously? They got the ball and they keep fumbling
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal

This is a MAJOR fail for the Repubs. Skinny is NOWHERE NEAR repeal. It's an attempt to save it.

And they had SEVEN F'ing YEARS to formulate a plan. TOLD US -- they had one. And they did Jack Crap..

They are toast. Both Brand Name parties are taking us down the crapper. There's gonna be NEW Leadership and it ain't gonna come from EITHER party. Because EVERYONE in Congress is useless -- except for the 4 party bosses. 500 of them ---- might as well NOT be there. Can't speak out or they pummeled. Especially in the Dem camp.

Need Indies and 3rd Parties.. And stop voting "winners".. America needs to vote for competence and leadership to survive right now --- not more "winning".. The WINNING is killing my country....

how about this?

the GOP failure is not working with Dems for the past eight years to make health care better.

the fact that they couldn't figure out that their constituents might object if they divested them of the ability to obtain health coverage simply speaks to their arrogance and a total lack of interest in actually serving the public.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

Is this Ted Cruz? Cuban Texan? Oh would be Cuban-Canadian-Texan. My mistake.
 
What obviously needs to happen is to surgically SEPARATE Medicaid from Insurance legislation. Put it back to the welfare that it was. and NOT hide it's costs in the "pool" like Jonathan Gruber TRICKED You into doing.


You can spot bullshit conspiracy theories a mile away in the way they concentrate around personas rather than policy.

Can you clarify exactly how ACA changed Medicaid to "hide it's costs in the pool"??? All it did was expand qualification to 125% poverty level and change program re-imbursement to pay for OUTCOMES rather then procedures (great idea btw!).

If you are talking about providers making up low re-imbersement from Medicare with higher bills to other patients then you are not talking about ACA chang, it was happening for a while now.

You admitting that you don't have a clue how "medicaid expansion" works? Folks were invited onto MediCaid that are several times above poverty. They were given shitty insurance subsidized by the POOL and loads of pork to the insurance companies.. Policies with deductibles that would BANKRUPT them if they ever needed extensive care.

THIS was the primary cause of PREMIUM inflation that doomed O-Care. Because when you subsidize something in a limited market -- it inflates. EVEN WORSE -- it was BY DESIGN to hide the costs of the "expansion". So that they could show MORE folks getting covered -- essentially for FREE in terms of budget.

I tell you -- those Dems and Gruber were GENIUSES and Miracle Workers. :rolleyes:

No man, Medicaid expansion states were at 138% of FPL and non expansion 100% of FPL anyone under these amounts went to Medicaid. But of course some insurance companies depending on the state administered it, like Molina.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.
Take millions of paying people out of the market and what happens to costs? You didn't factor that into the equation did you?

You do have a point, if they deregulate than insurers can create crap plans and sell them for dirt cheap and their competitors will follow suit. That's what was happening before ocare. I'm actually fine with allowing catastrophic plans and increaseing competition but let's be honest about the cause and effects that effect costs. Shall we?

Those millions of paying people partially pay the company, and partially pay the government. If you don't want health insurance or you want your non-government plan, you have to pay a tax. That's horrible.

Taking away Obamacare allows those people who were forced to buy Obamacare to be able to choose the health insurance they want.

Deregulation doesn't necessarily mean insurance companies make crap plans. If a company does that, the consumers can punish them by not purchasing until they change the plans so they can make some money.

If you had an insurance company in your state you were free to choose what health insurance you had. Obamacare was not a health insurance plan.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

Is this Ted Cruz? Cuban Texan? Oh would be Cuban-Canadian-Texan. My mistake.

If that's Cruz, he's dumber than I thought.
 
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

You couldn't be more wrong. Removing the mandate and subsidies would decrease competition. How do you not see that?

Removing the mandate (AKA the tax) would stop people from paying a fee not to have health insurance. That's good, not bad.

Removing subsidies stops one business from being favored over another. Let the playing field be fair. One business versus another, not one business constantly funded by the government versus another business having to make its own money.

Removing the mandate frees everyone to not buy insurance. It would decrease demand and competition. The markets will shrink and the cost will rise.

That's exactly what removing the mandate does, and that's great. You shouldn't be required to buy health insurance. No one has a right to force that on you. Decreasing demand? People who want it, should be able to have the choice to buy it. People who don't want it shouldn't have to buy it. End of story.

You're correct if you don't want it don't buy it. But if they are going to get rid of the mandate for individual and employer then they need to get rid of EMTLA and the ones that don't buy it cannot get treated at the ER.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

Is this Ted Cruz? Cuban Texan? Oh would be Cuban-Canadian-Texan. My mistake.

If that's Cruz, he's dumber than I thought.

It was a joke lol.
 
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

You couldn't be more wrong. Removing the mandate and subsidies would decrease competition. How do you not see that?
The 'competition' is already disappearing......some states only have one provider and even those may disappear...

Yes, and for what reason(s) is that happening?
Your Obamacare is one big fucking failure...insurers pull out if they cannot make a profit...

That's right and if there is no mandate and an insurer is required to cover pre x the same thing will happen, they're gone.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
O care will still be here after the 2018 elections, then it will give way to Trump care as there will be 20 more GOP members to vote
What makes you think the GOP is going to pick up 20 seats? They haven't gotten shit done so far... our whole political system from congress to the White House is a complete Joke. One big circus. Do you really think people are taking these clowns seriously? They got the ball and they keep fumbling

Obama accomplished Obamacare, which is DESTROYING both insurance companies and healthcare. So get used to it
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

You couldn't be more wrong. Removing the mandate and subsidies would decrease competition. How do you not see that?

I USED to have a broker with a big book of choices of plans and 40 years experience. NOW --- I have ONE choice and a Govt Navigator who was pushing a hot dog cart 4 years ago and doesn't understand insurance terminology and can't do simple math...

I want my GROUP PLAN coverage back that YOU IDIOTS outlawed when you threw me into the pool without even a broker. THAT will be competition. And my PLAN will be PROFESSIONALLY negotiated and managed.

Is that OK with you? Who do I need to beg to for that????

You could have had a broker all along even if you bought on the SHOP for small business. Someone misinformed you. The only reason a small business owner should have ever bought on the SHOP is to possibly get the tax credit you had to jump through hoops to get. Your plans were and are very limited. If you are just speaking of individual your broker could have done it for you and advised you.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
They tried to Repeal, it failed. Shockingly enough not many people want to see millions less people not have health insurance which in turn would raise costs for the insured. Weird huh?

How about they work on lowering costs and getting more people coverage. Novel idea huh?

Lowering costs and getting more people coverage would be exactly what repeal would do. It would lower costs because the competition would increase, and more people could by health insurance if they wanted to because they would be able to afford it, unlike what Obamacare does.

and yet that isn't true... the GOP "plan" would increase premiums by 20% for less coverage.

why? because insurance companies are ho's...
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
O care will still be here after the 2018 elections, then it will give way to Trump care as there will be 20 more GOP members to vote
What makes you think the GOP is going to pick up 20 seats? They haven't gotten shit done so far... our whole political system from congress to the White House is a complete Joke. One big circus. Do you really think people are taking these clowns seriously? They got the ball and they keep fumbling

Obama accomplished Obamacare, which is DESTROYING both insurance companies and healthcare. So get used to it
And what happened genius? They lost their majority in congress and just lost the white house... So now with the GOP unable to do ANYTHING with the majorities why in the world do you think they are going to pick up 20 seats in 2018? Come back to reality man.
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal
O care will still be here after the 2018 elections, then it will give way to Trump care as there will be 20 more GOP members to vote
What makes you think the GOP is going to pick up 20 seats? They haven't gotten shit done so far... our whole political system from congress to the White House is a complete Joke. One big circus. Do you really think people are taking these clowns seriously? They got the ball and they keep fumbling

Obama accomplished Obamacare, which is DESTROYING both insurance companies and healthcare. So get used to it
And what happened genius? They lost their majority in congress and just lost the white house... So now with the GOP unable to do ANYTHING with the majorities why in the world do you think they are going to pick up 20 seats in 2018? Come back to reality man.

Actually what happened is President Trump
 
Skinny or not......get the damn Obamacare off the books.....! Treat Medicaid separately or.....

“Replace” has become too much. Republicans should shoot for a simple repeal, and deal with the thorny issues of Medicaid reform in a later bill. But if the price of the holdouts is to retain the Medicaid expansion, then retain the expansion. And if the holdouts are concerned about the uninsurable enrollees in the subsidy program, then throw the truly desperate with pre-existing conditions into Medicaid. But that’s it; the rest of Obamacare must go, because it’s rotten to the core.

If Republicans can’t get something done on Obamacare this year, their leadership in Congress should be replaced, and repeal holdouts should be “primaried” with challengers who will clean their clocks in the primaries of 2018.



Read more: Articles: Medicaid: The Snag in Obamacare Repeal

This is a MAJOR fail for the Repubs. Skinny is NOWHERE NEAR repeal. It's an attempt to save it.

And they had SEVEN F'ing YEARS to formulate a plan. TOLD US -- they had one. And they did Jack Crap..

They are toast. Both Brand Name parties are taking us down the crapper. There's gonna be NEW Leadership and it ain't gonna come from EITHER party. Because EVERYONE in Congress is useless -- except for the 4 party bosses. 500 of them ---- might as well NOT be there. Can't speak out or they pummeled. Especially in the Dem camp.

Need Indies and 3rd Parties.. And stop voting "winners".. America needs to vote for competence and leadership to survive right now --- not more "winning".. The WINNING is killing my country....

how about this?

the GOP failure is not working with Dems for the past eight years to make health care better.

the fact that they couldn't figure out that their constituents might object if they divested them of the ability to obtain health coverage simply speaks to their arrogance and a total lack of interest in actually serving the public.

You really haven't gotten the message. NEITHER party cares about you.. They are pitting Millions against Millions because they needed to solve a 10% uninsured problem. So they tore up the WHOLE individual market, outlawed people grouping together for coverage and confuse the fuck out of the system by tossing a big wad of relatively high income Medicaid applicants into the pool. Which CAUSED the premium inflation. Because the costs of Medicaid expansion were "hidden in the pool". In other words MILLIONS paid outrageous premiums so that the FULL COST didn't show on the budget..

No shock that it was gonna break. It was DESIGNED to break. So that when Hillary won and they "fixed" the problems THEY created -- they could trot out the Single Payer gambit.

After the mismanagement and neglect of UNIVERSAL Retirement Insurance and the theft of the SS surplus -- No right thinking person is gonna trust these clowns with UNIVERSAL ANYTHING anymore....
 

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