Report claims WH failed to consult federal agencies on Trump's executive orders

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It looks like Trump forgot something. He used his pen, but, unlike Obama, he forgot to use his phone. I mean, a simple "heads up" would have been nice, right? Maybe Trump could have gotten some feedback that would have made his EOs effective without throwing the various federal agencies that received them into a state of confusion in the process. It's called consultation. Look for more of these kinds of problems since the federal bureaucracy is a labyrinth where legal considerations, logistics, and budgeting need to be taken into consideration. As a former builder, he should understand these things.



President Trump has signed a number of executive orders since taking office, but insiders say his agenda will face significant roadblocks in implementation.

The White House failed to consult many federal agencies and lawmakers who will be tasked with the duty of overseeing enforcement of the commander in chief's orders, a Politico report reveals.

According to Politico's sources, officials from the State Department, Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense were left in the dark to varying degrees on orders relative to their respective units.

The Trump administration reportedly did not ask State Department experts to review the Keystone XL pipeline memorandum, despite an ongoing lawsuit between the U.S. and pipeline company TransCanada.

The insider details also reveal that a small circle of Health and Human Services officials were made aware of the Day 1 executive order relative to Obamacare -- and even then, only "two hours" before it was released.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary James Mattis were described as "blindsided" relative to a document draft that would require agencies to review implementing interrogation techniques now banned as torture. White House press secretary Sean Spicer dismissed the reported draft, saying, "it is not a White House document."

Now that they have been made aware of the directives, some are doubting the plausibility -- and in some cases, legality -- of Trump's broad sweeping orders.

While Trump told ABC News the building of a U.S.-Mexico border wall could begin within months, construction would require securing the roughly $20 billion needed to complete it would require Congressional action.

Rebooting the Keystone XL pipeline project is another endeavor that requires much more than the stroke of a pen to accomplish, notes the Fiscal Times.

There are a myriad of factors involved that reportedly were not vetted, including whether TransCanada, the pipeline builder, would agree to revised construction stipulations. The decision to halt the project came after years of research and consideration.


Serious procedure oversight could mean trouble for Trump’s executive orders
 
Man you guys will try anything to try and stop it. I get more and move amused with each creative effort you have to stop Trump.

The Trump train is rolling and you have nothing to stop it.
 
The Trump train pays no never-mind to legal or ethical matters. Throughout his career, Trump has consistently pushed ahead with self-aggrandizement projects, and relied on his immense wealth to shut down any opposition.
He has said he will run the country 'as a business', and has no idea that this is not the way to govern.
 
Well, if that is true, then the EOs can be stopped. I'm pretty sure however that that is nothing but more fake news.
 
The Trump train pays no never-mind to legal or ethical matters. Throughout his career, Trump has consistently pushed ahead with self-aggrandizement projects, and relied on his immense wealth to shut down any opposition.
He has said he will run the country 'as a business', and has no idea that this is not the way to govern.

Yeah, because not running it like a business has worked so fucking well.
 
It looks like Trump forgot something. He used his pen, but, unlike Obama, he forgot to use his phone. I mean, a simple "heads up" would have been nice, right? Maybe Trump could have gotten some feedback that would have made his EOs effective without throwing the various federal agencies that received them into a state of confusion in the process. It's called consultation. Look for more of these kinds of problems since the federal bureaucracy is a labyrinth where legal considerations, logistics, and budgeting need to be taken into consideration. As a former builder, he should understand these things.



President Trump has signed a number of executive orders since taking office, but insiders say his agenda will face significant roadblocks in implementation.

The White House failed to consult many federal agencies and lawmakers who will be tasked with the duty of overseeing enforcement of the commander in chief's orders, a Politico report reveals.

According to Politico's sources, officials from the State Department, Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense were left in the dark to varying degrees on orders relative to their respective units.

The Trump administration reportedly did not ask State Department experts to review the Keystone XL pipeline memorandum, despite an ongoing lawsuit between the U.S. and pipeline company TransCanada.

The insider details also reveal that a small circle of Health and Human Services officials were made aware of the Day 1 executive order relative to Obamacare -- and even then, only "two hours" before it was released.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary James Mattis were described as "blindsided" relative to a document draft that would require agencies to review implementing interrogation techniques now banned as torture. White House press secretary Sean Spicer dismissed the reported draft, saying, "it is not a White House document."

Now that they have been made aware of the directives, some are doubting the plausibility -- and in some cases, legality -- of Trump's broad sweeping orders.

While Trump told ABC News the building of a U.S.-Mexico border wall could begin within months, construction would require securing the roughly $20 billion needed to complete it would require Congressional action.

Rebooting the Keystone XL pipeline project is another endeavor that requires much more than the stroke of a pen to accomplish, notes the Fiscal Times.

There are a myriad of factors involved that reportedly were not vetted, including whether TransCanada, the pipeline builder, would agree to revised construction stipulations. The decision to halt the project came after years of research and consideration.


Serious procedure oversight could mean trouble for Trump’s executive orders
If these civil service whiners can't get the job done, maybe they should be replaced.
 
You think Obama did? I need to leave, otherwise I'lol pee in my pants from rolling around laughing so hard! Excuse me! :laugh2::spinner::rofl:
The Trump train pays no never-mind to legal or ethical matters. Throughout his career, Trump has consistently pushed ahead with self-aggrandizement projects, and relied on his immense wealth to shut down any opposition.
He has said he will run the country 'as a business', and has no idea that this is not the way to govern.
 
Man you guys will try anything to try and stop it. I get more and move amused with each creative effort you have to stop Trump.

The Trump train is rolling and you have nothing to stop it.

Guess what? There is no greater threat to a train jumping the tracks then an incompetent engineer who's not paying close enough attention to what's going on..
 
The President does not need to consult with anyone on what he plans to do. As for Obama whom you never complained about he did not consult either.
 
Man you guys will try anything to try and stop it. I get more and move amused with each creative effort you have to stop Trump.

The Trump train is rolling and you have nothing to stop it.

Guess what? There is no greater threat to a train jumping the tracks then an incompetent engineer who's not paying close enough attention to what's going on..
I hate to tell you this genius, but the train was already on the ground before the crew change.
 
It looks like Trump forgot something. He used his pen, but, unlike Obama, he forgot to use his phone. I mean, a simple "heads up" would have been nice, right? Maybe Trump could have gotten some feedback that would have made his EOs effective without throwing the various federal agencies that received them into a state of confusion in the process. It's called consultation. Look for more of these kinds of problems since the federal bureaucracy is a labyrinth where legal considerations, logistics, and budgeting need to be taken into consideration. As a former builder, he should understand these things.



President Trump has signed a number of executive orders since taking office, but insiders say his agenda will face significant roadblocks in implementation.

The White House failed to consult many federal agencies and lawmakers who will be tasked with the duty of overseeing enforcement of the commander in chief's orders, a Politico report reveals.

According to Politico's sources, officials from the State Department, Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense were left in the dark to varying degrees on orders relative to their respective units.

The Trump administration reportedly did not ask State Department experts to review the Keystone XL pipeline memorandum, despite an ongoing lawsuit between the U.S. and pipeline company TransCanada.

The insider details also reveal that a small circle of Health and Human Services officials were made aware of the Day 1 executive order relative to Obamacare -- and even then, only "two hours" before it was released.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary James Mattis were described as "blindsided" relative to a document draft that would require agencies to review implementing interrogation techniques now banned as torture. White House press secretary Sean Spicer dismissed the reported draft, saying, "it is not a White House document."

Now that they have been made aware of the directives, some are doubting the plausibility -- and in some cases, legality -- of Trump's broad sweeping orders.

While Trump told ABC News the building of a U.S.-Mexico border wall could begin within months, construction would require securing the roughly $20 billion needed to complete it would require Congressional action.

Rebooting the Keystone XL pipeline project is another endeavor that requires much more than the stroke of a pen to accomplish, notes the Fiscal Times.

There are a myriad of factors involved that reportedly were not vetted, including whether TransCanada, the pipeline builder, would agree to revised construction stipulations. The decision to halt the project came after years of research and consideration.


Serious procedure oversight could mean trouble for Trump’s executive orders


TransCanada has already said they will renew their application and congress has already said they would provide 15 billion on the wall to start. Next?
 
Man you guys will try anything to try and stop it. I get more and move amused with each creative effort you have to stop Trump.

The Trump train is rolling and you have nothing to stop it.

Guess what? There is no greater threat to a train jumping the tracks then an incompetent engineer who's not paying close enough attention to what's going on..


Well he's a great business guy tha t is running rings around you lefties, you think Chuck Schumer is gonna stand toe to toe with Trump?

He knows how to get stuff done and it's getting done, just relax and let it happen, it's inevitable.
 
Man you guys will try anything to try and stop it. I get more and move amused with each creative effort you have to stop Trump.

The Trump train is rolling and you have nothing to stop it.
It's fucking fantastic.....
 
Were the freaking agencies in a coma or isolation? Trump telegraphed his intentions for the last two years. The agency drones should have had a new resume drawn up at least by Christmas 2016
 
It looks like Trump forgot something. He used his pen, but, unlike Obama, he forgot to use his phone. I mean, a simple "heads up" would have been nice, right? Maybe Trump could have gotten some feedback that would have made his EOs effective without throwing the various federal agencies that received them into a state of confusion in the process. It's called consultation. Look for more of these kinds of problems since the federal bureaucracy is a labyrinth where legal considerations, logistics, and budgeting need to be taken into consideration. As a former builder, he should understand these things.



President Trump has signed a number of executive orders since taking office, but insiders say his agenda will face significant roadblocks in implementation.

The White House failed to consult many federal agencies and lawmakers who will be tasked with the duty of overseeing enforcement of the commander in chief's orders, a Politico report reveals.

According to Politico's sources, officials from the State Department, Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense were left in the dark to varying degrees on orders relative to their respective units.

The Trump administration reportedly did not ask State Department experts to review the Keystone XL pipeline memorandum, despite an ongoing lawsuit between the U.S. and pipeline company TransCanada.

The insider details also reveal that a small circle of Health and Human Services officials were made aware of the Day 1 executive order relative to Obamacare -- and even then, only "two hours" before it was released.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary James Mattis were described as "blindsided" relative to a document draft that would require agencies to review implementing interrogation techniques now banned as torture. White House press secretary Sean Spicer dismissed the reported draft, saying, "it is not a White House document."

Now that they have been made aware of the directives, some are doubting the plausibility -- and in some cases, legality -- of Trump's broad sweeping orders.

While Trump told ABC News the building of a U.S.-Mexico border wall could begin within months, construction would require securing the roughly $20 billion needed to complete it would require Congressional action.

Rebooting the Keystone XL pipeline project is another endeavor that requires much more than the stroke of a pen to accomplish, notes the Fiscal Times.

There are a myriad of factors involved that reportedly were not vetted, including whether TransCanada, the pipeline builder, would agree to revised construction stipulations. The decision to halt the project came after years of research and consideration.


Serious procedure oversight could mean trouble for Trump’s executive orders


I'm not surprised. Trump is a one-man operation. He thinks being president is being CEO. He can do whatever he wants by proclamation and because he's president, anything he does is legal in his mind. He also gives no thought to consequences.
 
Were the freaking agencies in a coma or isolation? Trump telegraphed his intentions for the last two years. The agency drones should have had a new resume drawn up at least by Christmas 2016


That is not the way you work with agencies you are supposed be leading.
 

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