Repubican capitalism made us rich, but liberalism stole the money!!!

[regent]

Social Security may be the biggest thorn the Republicans have ever had to deal with. Of course they would not have ever suggested such a program but since it was passed, Republicans have been doing all they can to destroy Social Security.
The problem is the people like it, want it, need it, so how best for Republicans to destroy it? They tried the name calling thing: socialism, communism, unAmerican, welfare, for lazy boozers, and on and on. Didn't work.
Bush tried the let's give the money to private investment companies and let them handle it. Didn't work.
Usually at this point, the Republicans would revert to their usual tactics saying they created Social Security, and Democrats fought it, calling it vile names and so forth, but they know that won't work.
Even Reagan, of all people, helped SS. Damn commie.
Maybe Republicans should offer prizes for ideas to kill Social Security? It would be worth billions to corporations to get that money.

 

[Jroc]

Social Security may be the biggest thorn the Republicans have ever had to deal with. Of course they would not have ever suggested such a program but since it was passed, Republicans have been doing all they can to destroy Social Security.
The problem is the people like it, want it, need it, so how best for Republicans to destroy it? They tried the name calling thing: socialism, communism, unAmerican, welfare, for lazy boozers, and on and on. Didn't work.
Bush tried the let's give the money to private investment companies and let them handle it. Didn't work.
Usually at this point, the Republicans would revert to their usual tactics saying they created Social Security, and Democrats fought it, calling it vile names and so forth, but they know that won't work.
Even Reagan, of all people, helped SS. Damn commie.
Maybe Republicans should offer prizes for ideas to kill Social Security? It would be worth billions to corporations to get that money.

Saving Social Security...you idiot

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3VFuWqLBa8]Paul Ryan Social Security Plan - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Repubican capitalism made us rich, but liberalism stole the money!!!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....

Cleaning-Up After BU$HCO I!!

 

[Toronado3800]

Seriously...what part of this don't ya'll get?

they don't have much capability to think for themselves. they've been told by their masters that social security is bad, so they don't go much beyond that.

the fact is that 50% of senior citizens lived below the poverty line prior to social security.

and the nutbars have hated it ever since.

Social Security is unsustainable as is it...your posts are almost child like

Nah. It taked some readjustment of retirement age and tax cap but it is not difficult math.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Seriously...what part of this don't ya'll get?

Social Security keeps seniors out of poverty

Who's not getting it?

The latest report of the Social Security and Medicare trustees shows an unfunded liability for both programs of $63 trillion. That is equal to about 4.5 times the entire U.S. gross domestic product.

The unfunded liability is the amount we have promised in benefits, looking indefinitely into the future, minus the payroll taxes and premiums we expect to collect. It’s the amount we must have in the bank today, earning interest, for these entitlement programs to be solvent.

We not only don’t have the money in the bank, no one has a serious plan to put it there.

Now — some really bad news. The actual liability is almost twice what the government is reporting. In 2009, the trustees calculated the two programs’ unfunded liability at about 6.5 times the size of the U.S. economy. But the next year the unfunded liability was cut in half. The reason: “Obamacare.” The minute President Barack Obama signed his health reform bill, he cut Medicare’s unfunded liability by more than $50 trillion.

You would think this accomplishment would be an occasion for great joy — for dancing and celebration in the streets. If you’re like most Americans, however, you probably haven’t heard about it. Certainly, the Obama administration isn’t talking.

Here is what’s going on: Obamacare uses cuts in Medicare to pay for more than half the cost of expanding health insurance for young people. So even if the Medicare cuts take place, they won’t reduce the government’s overall obligations. They just replace entitlements for seniors with entitlements for young people. In addition, the health reform bill contains no serious plan for making Medicare more efficient.

So the only realistic way to make cuts in Medicare spending is a mechanism that will pay less and less to doctors and hospitals over time.

Opinion: Social Security trustees: We?re going broke - John C. Goodman - POLITICO.com

Put the money the Dems and the Pubs have taken out for other matters.

Increase the income taxation limit.

Institute means testing.

Problem resolved.

 

[Seawytch]

Eliminate the payroll cap. Raise it at least. Nobody ends up eating cat food...except cats.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Maybe Republicans should offer prizes for ideas to kill Social Security?

ok poor poor idiot liberal you get a prize if you can say whether retiring with an estate of $1.4 million is better or worse than retiring with no estate but a just a little dog food money ($1200 each month) from Democrats!!


A liberal will actually be so slow, so anti-science, as to find this an impossible problem.

 

[Jroc]

Seriously...what part of this don't ya'll get?

Social Security keeps seniors out of poverty

Who's not getting it?

The latest report of the Social Security and Medicare trustees shows an unfunded liability for both programs of $63 trillion. That is equal to about 4.5 times the entire U.S. gross domestic product.

The unfunded liability is the amount we have promised in benefits, looking indefinitely into the future, minus the payroll taxes and premiums we expect to collect. It’s the amount we must have in the bank today, earning interest, for these entitlement programs to be solvent.

We not only don’t have the money in the bank, no one has a serious plan to put it there.

Now — some really bad news. The actual liability is almost twice what the government is reporting. In 2009, the trustees calculated the two programs’ unfunded liability at about 6.5 times the size of the U.S. economy. But the next year the unfunded liability was cut in half. The reason: “Obamacare.” The minute President Barack Obama signed his health reform bill, he cut Medicare’s unfunded liability by more than $50 trillion.

You would think this accomplishment would be an occasion for great joy — for dancing and celebration in the streets. If you’re like most Americans, however, you probably haven’t heard about it. Certainly, the Obama administration isn’t talking.

Here is what’s going on: Obamacare uses cuts in Medicare to pay for more than half the cost of expanding health insurance for young people. So even if the Medicare cuts take place, they won’t reduce the government’s overall obligations. They just replace entitlements for seniors with entitlements for young people. In addition, the health reform bill contains no serious plan for making Medicare more efficient.

So the only realistic way to make cuts in Medicare spending is a mechanism that will pay less and less to doctors and hospitals over time.

Opinion: Social Security trustees: We?re going broke - John C. Goodman - POLITICO.com

Put the money the Dems and the Pubs have taken out for other matters.

Increase the income taxation limit.

Institute means testing.

Problem resolved.

Is that Obama's plan?...oh wait he doesn't have a plan and the money goes into the general fund thank you LBJ

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Social Security keeps seniors out of poverty

by stealing 15% of their lifetime income and giving them back dog food money at retirement?????????????

 

[AmericanFirst]

What a stupid thread.

Yes, we should go back to the days of sweat shops...

who talking about sweat shops?????????

Thread is about Social Security!!!!!!!

Exactly how slow are you???

You will get used to her slowness, she is so slow she is on a conversation when kennedy was potus.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Who's not getting it?



Opinion: Social Security trustees: We?re going broke - John C. Goodman - POLITICO.com

Put the money the Dems and the Pubs have taken out for other matters.

Increase the income taxation limit.

Institute means testing.

Problem resolved.

Is that Obama's plan?...oh wait he doesn't have a plan and the money goes into the general fund thank you LBJ

Thank you Reagan, Bush and Bush as well. We know what we have to do to resolve it, and both parties have to commit to it.

 

[Toronado3800]

Maybe Republicans should offer prizes for ideas to kill Social Security?

ok poor poor idiot liberal you get a prize if you can say whether retiring with an estate of $1.4 million is better or worse than retiring with no estate but a just a little dog food money ($1200 each month) from Democrats!!


A liberal will actually be so slow, so anti-science, as to find this an impossible problem.

Idiot liberal? You are the one who wants to impose religous views on the states.

So anyways. Have you figured out if the Dow Jones has beat Social Security since 07? Since 97? Remember we are talking nationwide averages here not fairy tails and dreams.

 

[Billo_Really]

who talking about sweat shops?????????

Thread is about Social Security!!!!!!!

Exactly how slow are you???

The only reason people want to privatize social security, is so the financial industry can have money to gamble with after they blew their wad on "credit default swaps".

SS is fine the way it is. Don't touch it. It will be solvent until 2030.

 

[GuyPinestra]

who talking about sweat shops?????????

Thread is about Social Security!!!!!!!

Exactly how slow are you???

The only reason people want to privatize social security, is so the financial industry can have money to gamble with after they blew their wad on "credit default swaps".

SS is fine the way it is. Don't touch it. It will be solvent until 2030.

Then what, smart guy??

 

[Billo_Really]

Then what, smart guy??

I'll be dead and I won't care.

 

[Toronado3800]

Interesting.

My kids will still be around so I care.

Regardless it is just a math problem of readjusting taxes and benefits and retirement age.

 

[rdean]

If an average America put 15% of his lifetime income at 4-6%( AT&Tor Verizon) in a private account he'd retire with $1.4 million estate as opposed to no ($0) estate with libturd SS!! Repubican capitalism made us rich, but liberalism stole the money!!!

Its just another a huge huge liberal scandal!!

Capitalism is all about taking risks. Conservatism is the opposite of that. People like Mitt Romney didn't build or innovate, they simply learn how to scam the system. Scams seem to be the only thing conservatives are really good at.

I like a good laugh. Tell us about all the contributions from conservative scientists.

 

[Sallow]

If an average America put 15% of his lifetime income at 4-6%( AT&Tor Verizon) in a private account he'd retire with $1.4 million estate as opposed to no ($0) estate with libturd SS!! Repubican capitalism made us rich, but liberalism stole the money!!!

Its just another a huge huge liberal scandal!!

Stole what money?

 

[GuyPinestra]

Then what, smart guy??

I'll be dead and I won't care.

Please don't procreate!

 

[Jroc]

Put the money the Dems and the Pubs have taken out for other matters.

Increase the income taxation limit.

Institute means testing.

Problem resolved.

Is that Obama's plan?...oh wait he doesn't have a plan and the money goes into the general fund thank you LBJ

Thank you Reagan, Bush and Bush as well. We know what we have to do to resolve it, and both parties have to commit to it.

Umm...Sorry but Reagan extended the life of Social Security, and W Bush tried to reform it. Obama?