Republican top priority.....Raise taxes on the poor

[TooTall]

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally. - The Week

Following their convincing victory in the 2014 elections, everyone is wondering what Republicans will do with their new majority in the Senate and House. Well, their policy agenda is becoming clear. It will be unrestrained class warfare against the poor.
This priority was made apparent over the last week during the negotiation of a colossal tax cut package. Senate Democrats and Republicans had been doing some low-key negotiations to renew a slew of tax cuts for corporations and lower- and middle-income Americans, according to reporting from Brian Faler and Rachel Bade at Politico.
Then President Obama announced his executive action on immigration. Enraged Republicans promptly took vengeance on all the goodies for the working poor (as well as for clean energy), cutting them out of the deal and proposing a raft of permanent tax cuts for corporations alone worth $440 billion over 10 years.

So there was going to be a tax cut for lower income.

Then that tax cut went away.

That is not raising taxes on the poor. It is leaving them exactly the same.

How can taxes be cut on the poor when they don't pay for anything but entitlement programs?

 

[g5000]

Tax expenditures need to go away, period. All of them. Every last one.

Then we can cut tax rates across the board and pay down the debt. Once the debt is paid off, we can lower tax rates even more.

Tax expenditures force higher tax rates and deficit spending.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fuck you! Pay your fucking fair share you fucking leech!

You use roads and bridges, right?

Fucking pay for them

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let's just forget republicans actually care about the national debt. They are perfectly content with adding billions to it.

On top of that, they are ending income tax credits for the poor.

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally.

"Massive transfers of money to the rich are one half of the Republican economic policy agenda; massive transfers of money away from poor are the other half. And the cuts would be cruel indeed:

For example, a single mother with two children working full time in a nursing home for the minimum wage and earning $14,500 would lose herentire [Child Tax Credit] of $1,725 if the CTC provision expires. [CBPP]"

If Obama cared about poor American workers, maybe he shouldn't make millions of illegals, who compete for their jobs, exempt from deportation?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I see a day when Illegals post Administration talking points at USMB leaving Rdean, greenbeard, Starkey and several others having to seek new employment

 

[The Rabbi]

A ditto troll thread from Billy The Zip.

 

[Billy000]

Fuck you! Pay your fucking fair share you fucking leech!

You use roads and bridges, right?

Fucking pay for them

I'm not even legible for this dumb shit. How typical you would support tax cuts for the WEALTY but not the poor.

 

[The Rabbi]

Fuck you! Pay your fucking fair share you fucking leech!

You use roads and bridges, right?

Fucking pay for them

I'm not even legible for this dumb shit. How typical you would support tax cuts for the WEALTY but not the poor.

Those with welts have suffered enough. They need and deserve tax relief now!

 

[rightwinger]

Instead of cutting corporate taxes by $440 billion, why don't Republicans dedicate that money to paying down the $18 trillion debt?

That is what they have been screaming about the last six years

 

[Billy000]

Instead of cutting corporate taxes by $440 billion, why don't Republicans dedicate that money to paying down the $18 trillion debt?

That is what they have been screaming about the last six years

Yes and what has been proven over and over is that tax cuts for corporations do very little to stimulate job growth. Supply side economics is one of the biggest political lie of all time.

 

[Billy000]

Fuck you! Pay your fucking fair share you fucking leech!

You use roads and bridges, right?

Fucking pay for them

I'm not even legible for this dumb shit. How typical you would support tax cuts for the WEALTY but not the poor.

Those with welts have suffered enough. They need and deserve tax relief now!

You are so dumb. The investment class is doing better now more than ever.

 

[rightwinger]

First, it's yet another reminder that Republicans don't care about the national debt. Conservative carping about the debt is 100 percent of the time a rhetorical cudgel deployed with utter cynicism against programs they dislike for other reasons. When the topic is food stamps or unemployment insurance, they demand offsets to pay for them. (Because "we're broke," as Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) put it in a similar context.) But when it comes to dropping planeloads of money on corporations and rich people, Republicans will casually blow a half-trillion hole in the 10-year budget without blinking.

How about it Republicans?

When it came to providing money to families for disaster relief or economic hardship you demanded "We need to cancel something to pay for it" We need an offset to be fiscally responsible
Yet, you throw out a $440 billion tax break to corporations with no concern over how the lost revenue will be replaced

The Democrats will block any attempt to lower corporate taxes even though they know that it very well could cause many corporations that are keeping profits made overseas to bring the billions back to the US and invest in expansion and create jobs.

That is what will result in a huge increase in revenue.

What happened when Bush cut those corporate rates?

Did they respond with more jobs? No, they just kept the extra money

How about it Republicans? Where do we we make up for the lost $440 Billion in lost revenue? You can tell us
Take the money away from the poor

Unemployment averaged 5.8% during Bush's administration. I already told you!

Bush doubled the unemployment rate

 

[rightwinger]

Instead of cutting corporate taxes by $440 billion, why don't Republicans dedicate that money to paying down the $18 trillion debt?

That is what they have been screaming about the last six years

Yes and what has been proven over and over is that tax cuts for corporations do very little to stimulate job growth. Supply side economics is one of the biggest political lie of all time.

What the fuck is with the Republicans?

Six years straight about Debt, Debt, Debt

Now that they take Congress do they try to reduce debt? Hell no, they look to add $440 billion to our debt

 

[TooTall]

First, it's yet another reminder that Republicans don't care about the national debt. Conservative carping about the debt is 100 percent of the time a rhetorical cudgel deployed with utter cynicism against programs they dislike for other reasons. When the topic is food stamps or unemployment insurance, they demand offsets to pay for them. (Because "we're broke," as Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) put it in a similar context.) But when it comes to dropping planeloads of money on corporations and rich people, Republicans will casually blow a half-trillion hole in the 10-year budget without blinking.

How about it Republicans?

When it came to providing money to families for disaster relief or economic hardship you demanded "We need to cancel something to pay for it" We need an offset to be fiscally responsible
Yet, you throw out a $440 billion tax break to corporations with no concern over how the lost revenue will be replaced

The Democrats will block any attempt to lower corporate taxes even though they know that it very well could cause many corporations that are keeping profits made overseas to bring the billions back to the US and invest in expansion and create jobs.

That is what will result in a huge increase in revenue.

What happened when Bush cut those corporate rates?

Did they respond with more jobs? No, they just kept the extra money

How about it Republicans? Where do we we make up for the lost $440 Billion in lost revenue? You can tell us
Take the money away from the poor

Unemployment averaged 5.8% during Bush's administration. I already told you!

Bush doubled the unemployment rate

The housing bubble collapse doubled the unemployment rate

 

[rightwinger]

First, it's yet another reminder that Republicans don't care about the national debt. Conservative carping about the debt is 100 percent of the time a rhetorical cudgel deployed with utter cynicism against programs they dislike for other reasons. When the topic is food stamps or unemployment insurance, they demand offsets to pay for them. (Because "we're broke," as Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) put it in a similar context.) But when it comes to dropping planeloads of money on corporations and rich people, Republicans will casually blow a half-trillion hole in the 10-year budget without blinking.

How about it Republicans?

When it came to providing money to families for disaster relief or economic hardship you demanded "We need to cancel something to pay for it" We need an offset to be fiscally responsible
Yet, you throw out a $440 billion tax break to corporations with no concern over how the lost revenue will be replaced

The Democrats will block any attempt to lower corporate taxes even though they know that it very well could cause many corporations that are keeping profits made overseas to bring the billions back to the US and invest in expansion and create jobs.

That is what will result in a huge increase in revenue.

What happened when Bush cut those corporate rates?

Did they respond with more jobs? No, they just kept the extra money

How about it Republicans? Where do we we make up for the lost $440 Billion in lost revenue? You can tell us
Take the money away from the poor

Unemployment averaged 5.8% during Bush's administration. I already told you!

Bush doubled the unemployment rate

The housing bubble collapse doubled the unemployment rate

While Bush stood by like a deer in the headlights

 

[BullKurtz]

What happened when Bush cut those corporate rates?

Did they respond with more jobs? No, they just kept the extra money

How about it Republicans? Where do we we make up for the lost $440 Billion in lost revenue? You can tell us
Take the money away from the poor

Once again you make assumptions (tell lies) that corporate tax cuts are ONLY intended to create jobs, that jobs weren't created under Bush, and that the economy after 9/11 existed in a vacuum. I know your plan isn't to learn the truth about any of this....only to reinforce the false narrative you Rats thrive on hoping your targets are too lazy to find out the truth for themselves.....most are.

 

[TooTall]

The Democrats will block any attempt to lower corporate taxes even though they know that it very well could cause many corporations that are keeping profits made overseas to bring the billions back to the US and invest in expansion and create jobs.

That is what will result in a huge increase in revenue.

What happened when Bush cut those corporate rates?

Did they respond with more jobs? No, they just kept the extra money

How about it Republicans? Where do we we make up for the lost $440 Billion in lost revenue? You can tell us
Take the money away from the poor

Unemployment averaged 5.8% during Bush's administration. I already told you!

Bush doubled the unemployment rate

The housing bubble collapse doubled the unemployment rate

While Bush stood by like a deer in the headlights

He had a Democrat controlled congress that tied his hands for the last two years of his Presidency.

 

[BullKurtz]

The Democrats will block any attempt to lower corporate taxes even though they know that it very well could cause many corporations that are keeping profits made overseas to bring the billions back to the US and invest in expansion and create jobs.

That is what will result in a huge increase in revenue.

What happened when Bush cut those corporate rates?

Did they respond with more jobs? No, they just kept the extra money

How about it Republicans? Where do we we make up for the lost $440 Billion in lost revenue? You can tell us
Take the money away from the poor

Unemployment averaged 5.8% during Bush's administration. I already told you!

Bush doubled the unemployment rate

The housing bubble collapse doubled the unemployment rate

While Bush stood by like a deer in the headlights

Bush tried repeatedly to get auditors into Fanny and Freddy.....Maxine Waters (who's husband is involved) called Bush a "RACIST" for asking to look at the books. Those two entities were what crushed the housing "bubble"...which was the only economic engine left in the USA thanks to labor chasing manufacturing jobs overseas. The Rat party, and only the Rat party is responsible for the mess we're in....liberals should be rounded up and put in work camps (shovel ready jobs) for what they've done to the USA.

 

[Conservative65]

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

How about just another job?

Why are you people fixated on having only one job?

Good answer

Now lets implement it. The 30 million working poor now have the option of finding a better job or working a second job. Now, before we implement your solution, lets identify 30 million additional jobs that these people can take

Life is so easy when you are a conservative

There are countless ways to make extra money and not all of them involve working for someone else.

Life is tough for liberals because of their limited thinking

Great...lets do it!

Identify all those unfilled lawn mowing and baby sitting jobs that will enable the working poor to make extra money. You only have to find 30 million unfilled positions or opportunities. There have to be 30 million people somewhere who need their lawns mowed

Keep in mind you are changing public policy. Before you do that you have to be sure that those added positions and work opportunities are there

That's what the Democrats don't understand. They try to equate taxes paid through state law as being the same as federal income taxes. If someone pays zero federal income tax, they pay zero state income tax in my state. If they get the EIC, what they get offsets many of those state taxes like property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

What Republicans don't understand is that taxes are still taxes whether they are levied at the local, state or federal level. You still have less money to support your family

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

How about just another job?

Why are you people fixated on having only one job?

Good answer

Now lets implement it. The 30 million working poor now have the option of finding a better job or working a second job. Now, before we implement your solution, lets identify 30 million additional jobs that these people can take

Life is so easy when you are a conservative

Life is easier for me because, as a Conservative, I chose to better myself, not think the government should simply give it to me while making someone else pay, and didn't make excuses or blame someone/something else when what I attempted didn't work out the way I wanted.

 

[Conservative65]

I realize you're not actually looking for information but this is a dumb question.

First, no one actually pays "none" but if they were paying "none", then any amount would be an increase. Understand?

BULL SHIT... there are people who pay NONE, and even people that get PAID, as in EARNED INCOME CREDIT.

UNDERSTAND?

Moron.

That's what the Democrats don't understand. They try to equate taxes paid through state law as being the same as federal income taxes. If someone pays zero federal income tax, they pay zero state income tax in my state. If they get the EIC, what they get offsets many of those state taxes like property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

What Republicans don't understand is that taxes are still taxes whether they are levied at the local, state or federal level. You still have less money to support your family

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

Let them find their own jobs. Why is it always someone else's place to do for the leeches what they should be doing for themselves? Plenty of people, including myself, didn't expect someonen else to find us a job. Why are those people any different?