Republicans like to think they understand the concept of “free shit” but actually don’t

[Ray From Cleveland]

So how do you suppose we could defend this country without funding, throw rocks at the next fighter jet from China?

Pay for it.

I agree. Let's start drastically cutting social programs to pay for it since they are not outlined in the Constitution, but defense is.

Nowhere does it state that defense should be free. For some reason you keep on ignoring this.

(The reason is actually obvious)

Where did I state that defense should be free? What I said is that the defense of this country is the constitutional responsibility of our federal representatives. Given that it isn't free, and actually costs a lot of money, the only way they can adhere to the Constitution is to pay for it.

We aren't paying for the military.

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

 

[pknopp]

Nowhere does it state that defense should be free. For some reason you keep on ignoring this.

(The reason is actually obvious)

Where did I state that defense should be free? What I said is that the defense of this country is the constitutional responsibility of our federal representatives. Given that it isn't free, and actually costs a lot of money, the only way they can adhere to the Constitution is to pay for it.

We aren't paying for the military.

We aren't paying for the military.

The checks to pay for military spending are bouncing? Link?

If we had to pay them, yes. Whether future generations will ever be able to pay them is questionable.

If we had to pay them, yes.

If the checks aren't bouncing, that means we are paying for the military.

We aren't writing checks. We are paying on debt. 23 Trillion and counting.

 

[pknopp]

Right, but we are not financing it. We are running the wars on debt. When are you going to step up and start paying for them?

Let me see if I have your line of thinking straight. Your complaint is we are spending money we don't have for wars, and running up a debt, but support free college so the debt goes even higher?

As has been noted many times, the method to pay for this is in Sanders plan. There is no debt added.

And you believe that? So how's he going to pay for it?

From what I recall a tax on trades.

A tax on trades. Okay, now what do you suppose the result of that will be?

Better access to higher education.

 

[pknopp]

Pay for it.

I agree. Let's start drastically cutting social programs to pay for it since they are not outlined in the Constitution, but defense is.

Nowhere does it state that defense should be free. For some reason you keep on ignoring this.

(The reason is actually obvious)

Where did I state that defense should be free? What I said is that the defense of this country is the constitutional responsibility of our federal representatives. Given that it isn't free, and actually costs a lot of money, the only way they can adhere to the Constitution is to pay for it.

We aren't paying for the military.

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

China in part.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I agree. Let's start drastically cutting social programs to pay for it since they are not outlined in the Constitution, but defense is.

Nowhere does it state that defense should be free. For some reason you keep on ignoring this.

(The reason is actually obvious)

Where did I state that defense should be free? What I said is that the defense of this country is the constitutional responsibility of our federal representatives. Given that it isn't free, and actually costs a lot of money, the only way they can adhere to the Constitution is to pay for it.

We aren't paying for the military.

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

China in part.

Why would China be paying for our military? Why isn't China paying for our food stamps, our HUD program, our Medicaid program, our ObamaCare program? Why is it our children never pay for these things, but will be stuck with the bill for items Democrats hate like tax cuts and military?

See, I can't figure that one out.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let me see if I have your line of thinking straight. Your complaint is we are spending money we don't have for wars, and running up a debt, but support free college so the debt goes even higher?

As has been noted many times, the method to pay for this is in Sanders plan. There is no debt added.

And you believe that? So how's he going to pay for it?

From what I recall a tax on trades.

A tax on trades. Okay, now what do you suppose the result of that will be?

Better access to higher education.

Talking myopically again. So let me explain what would happen. If you tax trades, less people will be trading. When that happens, the market slows down in growth or drops. When that happens, companies have less money to invest. When that happens, less people are working. When that happens, the economy turns negative. When that happens, people end up on social programs which cost all of us money.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

yet another useless thread by dean jr....

Wait is this guy the old rdean?
That would explain a lot

 

[pknopp]

Nowhere does it state that defense should be free. For some reason you keep on ignoring this.

(The reason is actually obvious)

Where did I state that defense should be free? What I said is that the defense of this country is the constitutional responsibility of our federal representatives. Given that it isn't free, and actually costs a lot of money, the only way they can adhere to the Constitution is to pay for it.

We aren't paying for the military.

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

China in part.

Why would China be paying for our military? Why isn't China paying for our food stamps, our HUD program, our Medicaid program, our ObamaCare program? Why is it our children never pay for these things, but will be stuck with the bill for items Democrats hate like tax cuts and military?

See, I can't figure that one out.

Yes you can.

 

[pknopp]

As has been noted many times, the method to pay for this is in Sanders plan. There is no debt added.

And you believe that? So how's he going to pay for it?

From what I recall a tax on trades.

A tax on trades. Okay, now what do you suppose the result of that will be?

Better access to higher education.

Talking myopically again. So let me explain what would happen. If you tax trades, less people will be trading. When that happens, the market slows down in growth or drops. When that happens, companies have less money to invest. When that happens, less people are working. When that happens, the economy turns negative. When that happens, people end up on social programs which cost all of us money.

No, less people will not be trading. What are they going to do? Put their money in the bank and make .05%?

 

[Harry Dresden]

yet another useless thread by dean jr....

Wait is this guy the old rdean?
That would explain a lot

no he is a dean wannabe....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Where did I state that defense should be free? What I said is that the defense of this country is the constitutional responsibility of our federal representatives. Given that it isn't free, and actually costs a lot of money, the only way they can adhere to the Constitution is to pay for it.

We aren't paying for the military.

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

China in part.

Why would China be paying for our military? Why isn't China paying for our food stamps, our HUD program, our Medicaid program, our ObamaCare program? Why is it our children never pay for these things, but will be stuck with the bill for items Democrats hate like tax cuts and military?

See, I can't figure that one out.

Yes you can.

No, I can't. In 2018, we spent over 65 billion on food stamps. Why is it we pay for that, but China pays for our military and tax cuts. Please explain the dynamics of that.

 

[MisterBeale]

I agree. Let's start drastically cutting social programs to pay for it since they are not outlined in the Constitution, but defense is.

Nowhere does it state that defense should be free. For some reason you keep on ignoring this.

(The reason is actually obvious)

Where did I state that defense should be free? What I said is that the defense of this country is the constitutional responsibility of our federal representatives. Given that it isn't free, and actually costs a lot of money, the only way they can adhere to the Constitution is to pay for it.

We aren't paying for the military.

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

China in part.

Who Holds Our Debt?

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

 

[Obiwan]

Let me see if I have your line of thinking straight. Your complaint is we are spending money we don't have for wars, and running up a debt, but support free college so the debt goes even higher?

As has been noted many times, the method to pay for this is in Sanders plan. There is no debt added.

And you believe that? So how's he going to pay for it?

From what I recall a tax on trades.

A tax on trades. Okay, now what do you suppose the result of that will be?

Better access to higher education.

That won't even allow you to make enough to repay a student loan???

 

[pknopp]

We aren't paying for the military.

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

China in part.

Why would China be paying for our military? Why isn't China paying for our food stamps, our HUD program, our Medicaid program, our ObamaCare program? Why is it our children never pay for these things, but will be stuck with the bill for items Democrats hate like tax cuts and military?

See, I can't figure that one out.

Yes you can.

No, I can't. In 2018, we spent over 65 billion on food stamps. Why is it we pay for that, but China pays for our military and tax cuts. Please explain the dynamics of that.

We aren't paying. I'm not the one clamoring for tax cuts to pay for even less. You are.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And you believe that? So how's he going to pay for it?

From what I recall a tax on trades.

A tax on trades. Okay, now what do you suppose the result of that will be?

Better access to higher education.

Talking myopically again. So let me explain what would happen. If you tax trades, less people will be trading. When that happens, the market slows down in growth or drops. When that happens, companies have less money to invest. When that happens, less people are working. When that happens, the economy turns negative. When that happens, people end up on social programs which cost all of us money.

No, less people will not be trading. What are they going to do? Put their money in the bank and make .05%?

Do you think those are the only investments out there? There are bonds, real estate, commodities, and that's just in this country alone.

You people won't face reality because of what the left tells you. There is a philosophy called Action/ Reaction. It's not just a philosophy, but a history of actually working. Don't believe this crap from the Socialists or Democrats that say when you take money from the rich man, he just takes his thumb and holds his pockets open for you to help yourself. That's a leftist lie. It doesn't work like that.

 

[pknopp]

As has been noted many times, the method to pay for this is in Sanders plan. There is no debt added.

And you believe that? So how's he going to pay for it?

From what I recall a tax on trades.

A tax on trades. Okay, now what do you suppose the result of that will be?

Better access to higher education.

That won't even allow you to make enough to repay a student loan???

Maybe, maybe not. Everyone should be able to benefit from the billions and billions the Fed creates out of nothing though, not just the select chosen ones.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Somebody is paying. Who is that?

China in part.

Why would China be paying for our military? Why isn't China paying for our food stamps, our HUD program, our Medicaid program, our ObamaCare program? Why is it our children never pay for these things, but will be stuck with the bill for items Democrats hate like tax cuts and military?

See, I can't figure that one out.

Yes you can.

No, I can't. In 2018, we spent over 65 billion on food stamps. Why is it we pay for that, but China pays for our military and tax cuts. Please explain the dynamics of that.

We aren't paying. I'm not the one clamoring for tax cuts to pay for even less. You are.

I'm not clamoring for tax cuts because taxation is closer to fair for people today thanks to Trump. But given the fact that nearly half of the people in our country pay no income tax at all, wouldn't it be a better idea to have those people start pitching in so we can start paying for these things?

 

[pknopp]

From what I recall a tax on trades.

A tax on trades. Okay, now what do you suppose the result of that will be?

Better access to higher education.

Talking myopically again. So let me explain what would happen. If you tax trades, less people will be trading. When that happens, the market slows down in growth or drops. When that happens, companies have less money to invest. When that happens, less people are working. When that happens, the economy turns negative. When that happens, people end up on social programs which cost all of us money.

No, less people will not be trading. What are they going to do? Put their money in the bank and make .05%?

Do you think those are the only investments out there? There are bonds, real estate, commodities, and that's just in this country alone.

You people won't face reality because of what the left tells you. There is a philosophy called Action/ Reaction. It's not just a philosophy, but a history of actually working. Don't believe this crap from the Socialists or Democrats that say when you take money from the rich man, he just takes his thumb and holds his pockets open for you to help yourself. That's a leftist lie. It doesn't work like that.

Who is it "actually working" that is creating the billions and billions the Fed is creating out of nothing?

 

[pknopp]

China in part.

Why would China be paying for our military? Why isn't China paying for our food stamps, our HUD program, our Medicaid program, our ObamaCare program? Why is it our children never pay for these things, but will be stuck with the bill for items Democrats hate like tax cuts and military?

See, I can't figure that one out.

Yes you can.

No, I can't. In 2018, we spent over 65 billion on food stamps. Why is it we pay for that, but China pays for our military and tax cuts. Please explain the dynamics of that.

We aren't paying. I'm not the one clamoring for tax cuts to pay for even less. You are.

I'm not clamoring for tax cuts because taxation is closer to fair for people today thanks to Trump. But given the fact that nearly half of the people in our country pay no income tax at all, wouldn't it be a better idea to have those people start pitching in so we can start paying for these things?

In this instance, once they graduate they will be.

 

[MisterBeale]

yet another useless thread by dean jr....

Wait is this guy the old rdean?
That would explain a lot

no he is a dean wannabe....

. . . less than a dean?


Impervious to all reason and logic. . . it's a tankie. It's guno 2.0