Republicans Win To Keep Medicine Costs High For Most Americans

[Marener]

You mean stuck it to YOU. Democrats barely qualify as life forms these days much less actual Americans.

That’s a very fascist thing to say.

 

[Rambunctious]

Now that’s how you shill for big pharma

Really?... do you know who the big winner is with this bill other than green weenie investors?... the healthcare insurance companies... the Big pharma got their payoff for vaccines last year.... the dems are making sure all of their rich donors are getting compensated... all of them but you....

 

[Marener]

Really?... do you know who the big winner is with this bill other than green weenie investors?... the healthcare insurance companies... the Big pharma got their payoff for vaccines last year.... the dems are making sure all of their rich donors are getting compensated... all of them but you....

The big winners are seniors who will be getting cheaper drugs.

Go ahead. Complain that big pharma isn’t getting as much money because greedy seniors are going to keep more of theirs.

Loser.

 

[Rambunctious]

The American people had better wake up... did you know a few years back American scientists made a battery powerful enough to run an entire home... so they invited Chinese scientists to see this new technology and sold it to them on the cheap... now those batteries are being made in China....
This democrat bill is a huge payoff to Chinese companies and Joe is running around like its a big win for the American people...
If this guy isn't investigated for his connections to China and the Ukraine we are going to pay dearly... The Ukraine is getting another check from us for 40 million dollars because they are over extended.... is the Ukraine a new US state?... WTF?.....

Where is the FBfuckingI ?.....

 

[Rambunctious]

The big winners are seniors who will be getting cheaper drugs.

Go ahead. Complain that big pharma isn’t getting as much money because greedy seniors are going to keep more of theirs.

Loser.

That's crazy... most seniors get drugs through Medicare.... don't fall for the BS.....
This bill must have been written in Xi's office.... read it if you can find it....

 

[toobfreak]

That’s a very fascist thing to say.

Thanks. I copied that opinion from one of the leftist here. Thanks for confirming how fascist the Left have become.

 

[Marener]

That's crazy... most seniors get drugs through Medicare.... don't fall for the BS.....
This bill must have been written in Xi's office.... read it if you can find it....

This bill made drugs cheaper for seniors on Medicare.

You seem to be a little slow today.

 

[Marener]

Thanks. I copied that opinion from one of the leftist here. Thanks for confirming how fascist the Left have become.

Excuses like that haven’t worked since grade school.

 

[Rambunctious]

This bill made drugs cheaper for seniors on Medicare.

You seem to be a little slow today.

It is making drugs cheaper for Medicare and insurance companies dummy the seniors will pay the same thing they are paying today... their co pay doesn't change one bit....

 

[toobfreak]

Excuses like that haven’t worked since grade school.

I doubt you have ever worked, but one needs no excuses to make the case for what totalitarian fascists the left are today.

 

[Marener]

It is making drugs cheaper for Medicare and insurance companies dummy the seniors will pay the same thing they are paying today... their co pay doesn't change one bit....

Dope. What do you think the copay is based on?

The price of the drug.

 

[Marener]

I doubt you have every worked, but one needs no excuses to make the case for what totalitarian fascists the left are today.

You admitted you’re adopting fascism. Loser.

 

[Rambunctious]

Dope. What do you think the copay is based on?

The price of the drug.

Its a smidgen of savings for seniors and a windfall for insurance companies....
Just the opposite of what the dems are saying...
if the intent was to make life better for seniors this doesn't do that....

 

[toobfreak]

You admitted you’re adopting fascism. Loser.

If you're trying to make the case that you are just another leftwing flamer copycat with a gradeschool
adolescent mentality that just enjoys trying to be a constant dick, no need to. We already knew.

 

[Marener]

Its a smidgen of savings for seniors and a windfall for insurance companies....
Just the opposite of what the dems are saying...
if the intent was to make life better for seniors this doesn't do that....

Capping insulin at $35 per month copay saves seniors a ton of money.

You are so deranged that you are forced to think anything Dems do is bad.

 

[Marener]

If you're trying to make the case that you are just another leftwing flamer copycat with a gradeschool adolescent mentality that just enjoys trying to be a constant dick, no need to. We already knew.

I was just commenting that your statement was very fascist.

But apparently that’s everyone else’s fault, not yours.

 

[toobfreak]

Its a smidgen of savings for seniors and a windfall for insurance companies....
Just the opposite of what the dems are saying...
if the intent was to make life better for seniors this doesn't do that....

It makes life better for seniors on paper, to the tune of a few worthless bucks a month, not likely to make a difference in anyone's life, but then, that is all that democraps cared about.

 

[toobfreak]

I was just commenting that your statement was very fascist.
But apparently that’s everyone else’s fault, not yours.

Nothing I said was fascist.
You've provided nothing to prove otherwise.
I'm not responsible for any of the stupid things YOU say,
so if you are looking for a retraction, you
better go look in the mirror.

 

[Rambunctious]

It makes life better for seniors on paper, to the tune of a few worthless bucks a month, not likely to make a difference in anyone's life, but then, that is all that democraps cared about.

That's the gimmick side... the dems always have a gimmick to fool their useful idiots....

 

[Meister]

What is the point of medicine that people can not afford?

R&D is a very expensive part of the pharmaceutical industry.
How much does it cost when a drug gets down the pipeline with trials only to fail?

The FDA approved 355 new drugs and biologics over the study period. Research and development expenditures were available for 63 (18%) products, developed by 47 different companies. After accounting for the costs of failed trials, the median capitalized research and development investment to bring a new drug to market was estimated at $985.3 million (95% CI, $683.6 million-$1228.9 million), and the mean investment was estimated at $1335.9 million (95% CI, $1042.5 million-$1637.5 million) in the base case analysis. Median estimates by therapeutic area (for areas with ≥5 drugs) ranged from $765.9 million (95% CI, $323.0 million-$1473.5 million) for nervous system agents to $2771.6 million (95% CI, $2051.8 million-$5366.2 million) for antineoplastic and immunomodulating agents. Data were mainly accessible for smaller firms, orphan drugs, products in certain therapeutic areas, first-in-class drugs, therapeutic agents that received accelerated approval, and products approved between 2014 and 2018. Results varied in sensitivity analyses using different estimates of clinical trial success rates, preclinical expenditures, and cost of capital.

Research and Development Costs of Bringing a New Medicine to Market

This study uses publicly available data to analyze research and development spending to win FDA approval and bring new drugs to market between 2009 and 2018.

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