Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

[francoHFW]

Good. Would be about time the poor and middle class got a break.

Specifically, how would that help?

The minimum wage worker is qualified to mop floors. His/her hourly pay goes to $20.00 per hour. So from there, everyone's pay is increased a like rate. Accomplished...NOTHING. The three gallons of gas you could buy for $7.50 will now cost the floor mopper $20.00 and so on and so on. What has that $20.00 per hour accomplished Francois? ZIP, ZERO, NADA!

It produces a healthy middle class and working class that can supply the demand for a healthy economy DUHHHHHHHHH....

 

[francoHFW]

The surcharge BS is just that, raise the price of the food, this surcharging people to death is a pretty deceitful way to make a dime. It's a way to get more money out of a customer.

To pay for higher pay of employees. GOOD.

I am glad they get higher wages, I'm not against workers getting more pay, just put it in the cost of the food prices, why the surcharge? Raise your damn prices 3%-4%, don't be a chicken shit and play games with your customers.

What difference does it make? lol

 

[francoHFW]

Groveling before our ridiculously bloated rich is not a bad idea after 35 years of Reaganism...see sig.

What an ignorant comment.

I'm hardly "ridiculously bloated rich". I took a meager salary as a young sailor in the Navy and was smart with it. My investments later in life have done well for me. I left my second career when my investments worked generously in my favor. No one gave me a fuckin' thing. I worked for every single thing I have.

The guy was hardly groveling. If anything, he was boasting. Frankly, it was refreshing to see someone who was proud of what his hard work was affording him as opposed to some idiot liberal who thinks the world owes him a comfortable living...

Yes his parents must be so proud he's a waiter. He probably cries himself to sleep at night.

Hey, if my kid was a waiter or waitress at a restaurant like that, and they enjoyed it (which our waiter clearly did) I would be proud of him. The kid was makin' bank. If he's crying himself to sleep at night, they're tears of joy...

My point is that our wealthy class are bloated after 35 years of Reaganism. Very unhealthy for the economy as a whole. Glad the waiter found a way to get trickled down on...

 

[francoHFW]

Or hire somebody that will take the job for less.

Yup, no greatest generation or unions anymore, just greedy idiot GOP CEOs. That's why the gov't is the only hope for workers. $15 min. wage (by stages) and high top tax rates to get CEO pay under control...

You are totally ignorant to business if you think it works like that.

If low skill workers make more money, it doesn't affect the CEO pay one bit. The employer will cut hours, layoff people, increase prices for their products or services, or make employees pay more towards their healthcare benefits.

the vast vast vast majority of business don't have a CEO but these fucking idiots think that every little business with 4 or 5 employees has a CEO making 500 times what their employees do

Fucking clueless

Of course not, duh lol. My problem is with giant corps DUH.

and the very small percentage of CEOS have absolutely no effect on your pay

When they make 50 million a year (and pay little in taxes) they cause all kinds of problems, dupe.

 

[rightwinger]

Cheating is how Trump made his fortune

You must have attended Trump University

so where did he cheat on his taxes like all your favorite democrat pols did?

Democrats pay taxes......Trump doesnt

And you know that how????????


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Trump admitted it

I don't recall that; at least nothing he mean seriously.


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He admitted it in a debate and bragged that not paying taxes makes him smart

 

[Papageorgio]

The surcharge BS is just that, raise the price of the food, this surcharging people to death is a pretty deceitful way to make a dime. It's a way to get more money out of a customer.

To pay for higher pay of employees. GOOD.

I am glad they get higher wages, I'm not against workers getting more pay, just put it in the cost of the food prices, why the surcharge? Raise your damn prices 3%-4%, don't be a chicken shit and play games with your customers.

What difference does it make? lol

Huge difference, it is good to know the price up front. You give a person a price and then add all sorts of taxes and surcharges and the person winds up paying an extra 15-20%. Tell me about your $50 cell phone plan, when you pay $65 a month for it.

 

[hadit]

What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?

If you can't live off of the money you make on job then get another one.

If you are so sorry as to not be able to make more than minimum wage then you are one pathetic asshole.

Minimum wage jobs are for kids working part time in school or the summer for a little extra spending money, not for adults raising a family.

The government should never be in the business of dictating wages and they should never be in the welfare business of taking money away from the people that earn it and giving it away to those that didn't earn it.

Fuck the filthy ass government, right Timmy?

why don't all capitalists do like Henry Ford; and simply double wages and realize gains from efficiency?

And the meaningless quote machine strikes again.

 

[hadit]

Or maybe they are putting it on the bill to show their customers what happens when they support something as idiotic as a huge minimum wage increase: somebody has to pay for that increase.

Or maybe it's way of letting petty douchebags know not to come back to the restaurant.

That's their option. But many uninformed voters think that when they support things like wage or taxation hikes, somebody other then them are going to pay for it. I'm sure those people who are shocked at the new charge figured it was the owner that was just going to dig deeper in his pockets.

For those who are insulted by learning something, you probably don't want their business anyhow.

I thought restaurants were just going to lay off enough people to make up the difference.

They will if they can't raise prices high enough to offset the increased cost. Most will probably do both.

only "lousy capitalists" cannot make like, Henry Ford.

Oh, please, explain yourself. You didn't the last 5 times you tried to make that point.

 

[hadit]

I do it already. I only purchase products and frequent businesses i know do the right thing. I pay more for it, but i feel better.

Then keep doing that. Why the hell should it be everyone else's problem to make you feel better?

We should be looking out for our fellow Americans. Pay em a living wage. It'll get em off the Government Entitlements, and they'll feel they're worth something.

The average Republican approach on wages borders on 'Evil.' Yet most of them consider themselves 'Good Christians.' Our Minimum Wage is truly embarrassing. The rest of the world can't believe such a wealthy nation would treat its People so poorly.

We don't, you just stupidly think so. Most people are not making minimum wage because they've been working for a while. Unlike you I lived within my means and didn't expect my neighbor to share his earnings so I could live the same.

Wages aren't going up until the economy goes up. The liberal's policies (not party) suppresses growth. More jobs=more opportunities=better pay. Your mindset demonstrates you might have been a party member but you were never a conservative.

If 'most people' aren't making Minimum Wage, what's the harm in raising it?

Many industries pay scales are tied to the minimum wage. If you increase the minimum wage, salaries above the minimum wage are forced to be raised also.

To say nothing of the fact the over half the workforce makes $20/hr or less. All of them are going to demand raises too when they go from comfortably twice the MW to just a dollar or two above it.

 

[hadit]

I know successful guys too who should have never went to college. All they did was start their own business.

I'm glad I went to college. Makes it a lot easier to get a job.

Well, in the case of my waiter, that's not what happened. When my daughter turned 21 she moved to New York. She couldn't get a job because of all the college grads waiting and bussing tables, many with advanced degrees...

Your waiter might be sorry one day. Have you ever been a waiter? I'd rather be an electrical engineer.

And that would be great, but the reality is that the one job offer he got in New York barely would've paid him a living wage for New York.

My best friend graduated from the University of Rochester (New York) with an advanced degree in neurobiology. He works as a software designer now when he's not touring as a guitar player...

And everyone inflates their salary. Always take half off what someone tells you they make.

I based my comment on what I tipped him and on what I've seen as customary in high-end restaurants. It's not unusual to see four figure checks in a restaurant like this with a large party. Four figure checks carry rather sizable tips. The only people leaving a $20 tip in a place like this are people who want to ensure they get shitty service the next time through.

When our waiter said he had no desire to give up his waiter gig, I had no reason to doubt him...

Groveling before our ridiculously bloated rich is not a bad idea after 35 years of Reaganism...see sig.

Wow, Bubba and Obama are Reaganites. Who knew?

 

[Mr Natural]

To say nothing of the fact the over half the workforce makes $20/hr or less. All of them are going to demand raises too when they go from comfortably twice the MW to just a dollar or two above it.

And the last thing America needs is a well paid workforce.

 

[hadit]

To say nothing of the fact the over half the workforce makes $20/hr or less. All of them are going to demand raises too when they go from comfortably twice the MW to just a dollar or two above it.

And the last thing America needs is a well paid workforce.

Actually, the last thing America needs is to double labor costs across the board. Does any sane person believe for a moment you can do that with no negative repercussions? Take 20 years to do it, and you might be able to pull it off. Do it in less than five and you won't.

 

[Dschrute3]

No offense, but that's absolute greedy white Republican BULLSHITE! Most Workers take all the hours they can get.

You don't live in a real world, do you?

Why do you think the formerly strong black family unit has been destroyed?

BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2005, AND THEREAFTER

AMMUNITION FOR POVERTY PIMPS

In the wake of Hurricane Katrina's destruction of New Orleans, President Bush gave America's poverty pimps and race hustlers new ammunition. The president said, "As all of us saw on television, there is also some deep, persistent poverty in this region as well. And that poverty has roots in a history of racial discrimination, which cut off generations from the opportunity of America. We have a duty to confront this poverty with bold action."

The president's espousing such a vision not only supplies ammunition to poverty pimps and race hustlers, it focuses attention away from the true connection between race and poverty.

Though I grow weary of pointing it out, let's do it again. Let's examine some numbers readily available from the Census Bureau's 2004 Current Population Survey and ask some questions. There's one segment of the black population that suffers only a 9.9 percent poverty rate, and only 13.7 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. There's another segment that suffers a 39.5 percent poverty rate, and 58.1 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. Among whites, one segment suffers a 6 percent poverty rate, and only 9.9 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. The other segment suffers a 26.4 percent poverty rate, and 52 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. What do you think distinguishes the high and low poverty populations among blacks?

Would you buy an explanation that it's because white people practice discrimination against one segment of the black population and not the other or one segment had a history of slavery and not the other? You'd have to be a lunatic to buy such an explanation. The only distinction between both the black and white populations is marriage -- lower poverty in married-couple families.

In 1960, only 28 percent of black females ages 15 to 44 were never married and illegitimacy among blacks was 22 percent. Today, the never-married rate is 56 percent and illegitimacy stands at 70 percent. If today's black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits. The weakening of the black family structure, and its devastating consequences have nothing to do with the history of slavery or racial discrimination.

Read more:
Ammunition For Poverty Pimps

Y'all greedy white Republicans are delusional. Most American Workers accept as many hours as they can get. You've created a Boogeyman to hate, in your warped minds. You're demonizing folks who don't deserve to be demonized. It helps you justify treating your fellow Americans like shite.

 

[Dschrute3]

The surcharge BS is just that, raise the price of the food, this surcharging people to death is a pretty deceitful way to make a dime. It's a way to get more money out of a customer.

It's just a lowdown dirty way to punish the 'slaves.' It's intended to turn the People against the Workers. But that's ok, Consumers have a lot more power these days. They can make immoral/unethical Businesses pay. Times have changed.

It doesn't punish anyone but the consumer, they are the ones paying more.

Their hope is to create a backlash against the Workers. It's a dirty tactic used to turn the People against them. They'll blame the surcharge on the 'Evil Workers.'

But that's ok, Consumers are much more savvy these days. They'll either stop frequenting businesses that charge the surcharges, or they'll pay em and be content knowing the Workers are making a living wage.

 

[Dschrute3]

Again, more Republican drama queen exaggerations. The sky won't fall as a result of raising the Minimum Wage. Y'all always claim it will, but it never has before. So just relax, these struggling folks aren't gonna get 'Rich' by making a few more bucks.

Who says they're going to make any more? If they are collecting government handouts, they will work less hours and earn the same amount of money to keep them government goodies coming in.

these idiots also don't know the difference between qualifying for government handouts and actually needing government handouts

Libs tend to put the palms of their hands against their ears and sing aloud when they hear the truth.

Some of our customers use temporary help to check out the workers first and to have the flexibility during variable sales activities in their company. Many have told me when they get busy and ask the temps if the can work more hours, many refuse. Why? Because it cuts into their food stamp allowance. They must keep their income at a certain level to keep getting SNAP's cards.

Of course the company would never hire workers like that from the temp agency, so not only are these people financially holding themselves back because of government, they are also giving up an opportunity to gain full-time employment and get out of temporary services.

It's the same with these minimum wage workers. Give them a raise, and they will cut back from working 25 hours a week to 15 hours a week. What's accomplished by that?

No offense, but that's absolute greedy white Republican BULLSHITE! Most Workers take all the hours they can get. Y'all really do live in some bizarre greedy fantasy bubble. You seem to hate poor folks. It's pretty evil.

have you ever employed anyone?

Have you ever made a dozen phone calls to try to get someone in to cover a sick call and have no one say yes?

Most folks i've ever known, work as many hours available to them. They're far from being 'Lazy Welfare' folks. Y'all are demonizing people who are just struggling to get by. Hopefully one day you'll see the error of your ways.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Half the folks making minimum wage are overpaid now......

The other half will use their entry level job to move up , or move on to better oppurtunities...

They will EARN raises.........

 

[Dschrute3]

Again, more Republican drama queen exaggerations. The sky won't fall as a result of raising the Minimum Wage. Y'all always claim it will, but it never has before. So just relax, these struggling folks aren't gonna get 'Rich' by making a few more bucks.

Who says they're going to make any more? If they are collecting government handouts, they will work less hours and earn the same amount of money to keep them government goodies coming in.

these idiots also don't know the difference between qualifying for government handouts and actually needing government handouts

Libs tend to put the palms of their hands against their ears and sing aloud when they hear the truth.

Some of our customers use temporary help to check out the workers first and to have the flexibility during variable sales activities in their company. Many have told me when they get busy and ask the temps if the can work more hours, many refuse. Why? Because it cuts into their food stamp allowance. They must keep their income at a certain level to keep getting SNAP's cards.

Of course the company would never hire workers like that from the temp agency, so not only are these people financially holding themselves back because of government, they are also giving up an opportunity to gain full-time employment and get out of temporary services.

It's the same with these minimum wage workers. Give them a raise, and they will cut back from working 25 hours a week to 15 hours a week. What's accomplished by that?

No offense, but that's absolute greedy white Republican BULLSHITE! Most Workers take all the hours they can get. Y'all really do live in some bizarre greedy fantasy bubble. You seem to hate poor folks. It's pretty evil.

You must live in your mothers basement. Get out in the real world and see what's going on instead of reading lib blogs.

A few years ago one of my tenants became increasingly late with rent. I asked them to come to my apartment to discuss the problem. It was a couple with two kids, a large dog, and three cats.

He worked 40 hours a week but she stayed home "supposedly" home schooling the kids. He had no option to work overtime at his company, so I suggested that on the weekends, he watch the kids and she could get a part-time job at Walmart or McDonald's to make ends meet.

She didn't even entertain my solution. Why? Because she was getting $225.00 a month in food stamps, and any income would work against that stipend.

So I had no choice but to evict them, and later sued him for back rent which of course he didn't pay. I had to get his wages garnished for over a year.

Now they have an eviction on their record which any landlord can dig up on the computer. They lost their home and had to scramble to find a new place to live. All for what? Food stamps.

So don't tell me what goes on. I work in industry every day and get to talk to a lot of people.

Very rare. But y'all greedy Republican folks act like that represents the majority of American Workers. You're just demonizing to justify treating your fellow Americans like shite. It makes you feel better about it.

But i assure you, most working folks i've ever known, work as many hours made available to them. So stop living in your greedy fantasy bubble. These folks are good Americans just trying to get by.

 

[Dschrute3]

The surcharge BS is just that, raise the price of the food, this surcharging people to death is a pretty deceitful way to make a dime. It's a way to get more money out of a customer.

It's just a lowdown dirty way to punish the 'slaves.' It's intended to turn the People against the Workers. But that's ok, Consumers have a lot more power these days. They can make immoral/unethical Businesses pay. Times have changed.

If the economy goes up, wages go up. Always has.

You cannot grasp that simple fact, hate is your substitute for thinking. If artificial wages worked why not mandate $50 minimum?

Again, more greedy white Republican 'Sky is Falling' exaggerations. Sorry man, but your fear mongering doesn't work with me. These folks aren't gonna get rich by making a few more dollars. They're good Americans just trying to get by.

 

[Skull Pilot]

but he doesn't CHEAT like the liberals do

Cheating is how Trump made his fortune

You must have attended Trump University

so where did he cheat on his taxes like all your favorite democrat pols did?

Democrats pay taxes......Trump doesnt

Democrat politicians CHEAT to pay less taxes

Trump takes LEGAL tax deductions

but of course you don't know the difference

Based on an opinion in the Blaze?

Don't read the Blaze but you must

if Trump had been doing anything illegal it would have been found out in an audit and he has been audited

you know the same kinds of audits that catch sitting democrat pols cheating on their taxes

 

[Skull Pilot]

When Trumpcare takes away small business health insurance subsidies, will the restaurant owners tack that onto their bills with another surcharge?

funny I didn't get any small business Obamacare subsidies in fact my insurance costs have gone nowhere but up

20% last year alone