Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

[Papageorgio]

Why are those tricks in the book? Oh yes because poor people are the problem. Lol. It's never the rich. You can't fault who you worship.

It isn't the rich, Congress can say no to the rich, they choose to say yes. Again, both parties are to blame, yet you can't seem to blame the Democrats, because then you would have to take responsibility.

Maybe because they've been trying to raise taxes on the rich for 30 years, dupe. Keep voting for bought off lying cheating brainwashers.

Already gave several links showing that Democrats are just as giving to the rich as the Republicans. Why they heck are you being duped by Congress, Democrats and Republicans? I didn't vote for a Republican or Democrat incumbent, you are the problem because you support a party that sold you out in the 90's and to prove how stupid you are, you will continue to vote for them. Congrats!

People like Franko are brainwashed by their puppet masters. Through brainwashing, they have managed to convince them that Republicans are in bed with the rich, racist, homophobes, and most of all, uneducated.

As they saying goes, if you repeat a lie often enough, eventually people will believe it.

We don't HAVE a fake news propaganda machine to compare with your disgrace, dupe.

Did you eat paint chips when you were a kid?

 

[Papageorgio]

Why are those tricks in the book? Oh yes because poor people are the problem. Lol. It's never the rich. You can't fault who you worship.

It isn't the rich, Congress can say no to the rich, they choose to say yes. Again, both parties are to blame, yet you can't seem to blame the Democrats, because then you would have to take responsibility.

Maybe because they've been trying to raise taxes on the rich for 30 years, dupe. Keep voting for bought off lying cheating brainwashers.

Already gave several links showing that Democrats are just as giving to the rich as the Republicans. Why they heck are you being duped by Congress, Democrats and Republicans? I didn't vote for a Republican or Democrat incumbent, you are the problem because you support a party that sold you out in the 90's and to prove how stupid you are, you will continue to vote for them. Congrats!

Yes, Bill went along with the a-hole GOP too much. Nothing like the GOP disasters when they're in office.

the GOP was willing to "shut down" government, if they didn't get their way.

So we're the Democrats, why do you persist in the lies of the left?

 

[Skull Pilot]

He has binary thinking disease, he can't get past Democrat or Republican thinking. What is sad is that is the thinking that got us into this mess.

No I get it. Especially when Republicans are in charge because then reality collides with their rhetoric. For example healthcare. Now we see us liberals were right. The GOP lied about the aca. Turns out things would be worse if not for it.

Maybe you idiots should have voted against Republicans in 2010 instead of giving them back control of the house and senate.

You rewarded bad behavior.

And last I checked we have two parties. If you aren't a democrat then you're a Republican. And you guys got us in this message. I don't blame the politicians anymore. I would favor the rich too. You don't need favoring. You vote for them even when they fuck you. Or almost as good you people reward them by not voting

With healthcare the Democrats are wrong, what we have is free premiums with people not being able to afford the deductible. See if you give people with no money health insurance and a $3500 deductible, it does them no good. So really the Democrat party was wrong. You have no proof that we were worse off, that is an opinion.

Also, it wasn't just Republicans that voted in 2010, so your blame game is also a flawed opinion.

We have more than two party's in fact there are several hundred. Just your way of not taking blame for a mess that all helped create. If you have voted either Republican or Democrat, you helped get us into this mess because you only hold the Republicans accountable.

2 options

$3500 deductible and survive cancer or don't have insurance so you can't afford the million dollar cure.

That may be so if you could get a crap policy like that for around $200.00 a month. But the last plan I checked out on Commie Care wanted $725.00 a month with a $7,000 deductible and a $7,100 out of pocket. No prescription coverage, no dental or eye, and a $50.00 copay for all doctors visits.

How would I be able to pay that, pay for all my prescriptions, and pay my medical bills since the insurance didn't cover anything?

That's a lie. It's about $300 a month which is still too much I agree.

We need single payer.

Are Republicans willing to fix the problem? The only way they know how is to let insurance companies deny insuring the sick and not cover the poor.

Some things shouldn't be for profit

single payer has failed everywhere it's been tried

 

[Skull Pilot]

If the paycheck isn't enough to feed you and shelter you, it's not much of a reward. Again, people act like you can just hop to a better job if you're not satisfied with your current pay. Wages are stagnant. It's a fact.

If you have nothing more to add to the profit margin and productivity of a company, why do you deserve more pay?

Go to night school, take a part time job, work overtime, take courses online, get off your duff and quit acting like a victim.

If an employee had nothing to add to the profit margin, why are they hired in the first place?

Who is acting like a victim? Low-wage employees are asserting how much their time, effort, and skills are worth. That's advocating for themselves, not being victims.

and just how much profit do you think an employer makes on a MW employee?

It ain't much

and the skills needed to perform MW work aren't worth much
If you want to make more than MW then you have to make the time you sell to your employer worth more

Funny I always thought of my employers (when I had them) as customers who I sell a product to and I always wanted to give them the highest quality product I could which means that in every entry level job I had the first thing I ever did was find out exactly what I had to do to get a promotion.

That's how I was managing the entire dairy section of a large supermarket when I was 17 and still in high school and was making almost twice as much as the guys who just wanted to stock shelves

I repeat, if min. wage workers aren't adding to the profit, then why are they hired? The goodness of the company's heart?

all employees have to make money for the company but really how much do you think a MW person profits the company?

It ain't much

is the guy sweeping your floors and emptying trash for 7.25 an hour really padding your bottom line?

 

[Skull Pilot]

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Now where did I complain about the victims? Look in the mirror.

The poor and middle class are the victims, dolt. We have the worst rich poor gap and upward mobility ever TODAY. Reaganism, not obstructed Obama, dupe.

So all that money spent on the war on poverty accomplished...what exactly?

we have "poor" people that are richer than 70% of the entire population of the planet

Are you a globalist? Because you are so concerned about the poor on other countries.

because I happen to know the FACT that our so called poor are far richer than 70% of the entire world population that makes me a globalist?

no it doesn't it makes me informed and gives me a perspective that extends beyond the walls of your little 2 dimensional echo chamber

 

[Skull Pilot]

If the paycheck isn't enough to feed you and shelter you, it's not much of a reward. Again, people act like you can just hop to a better job if you're not satisfied with your current pay. Wages are stagnant. It's a fact.

If you have nothing more to add to the profit margin and productivity of a company, why do you deserve more pay?

Go to night school, take a part time job, work overtime, take courses online, get off your duff and quit acting like a victim.

If an employee had nothing to add to the profit margin, why are they hired in the first place?

Who is acting like a victim? Low-wage employees are asserting how much their time, effort, and skills are worth. That's advocating for themselves, not being victims.

and just how much profit do you think an employer makes on a MW employee?

It ain't much

and the skills needed to perform MW work aren't worth much
If you want to make more than MW then you have to make the time you sell to your employer worth more

Funny I always thought of my employers (when I had them) as customers who I sell a product to and I always wanted to give them the highest quality product I could which means that in every entry level job I had the first thing I ever did was find out exactly what I had to do to get a promotion.

That's how I was managing the entire dairy section of a large supermarket when I was 17 and still in high school and was making almost twice as much as the guys who just wanted to stock shelves

Either this happened decades ago, or I call bullshit. In the last 20 years, a manager of one section of a supermarket would not make twice (or "almost twice") what the min. wage employees make.

It was when I was 17. and you don't think a department manager in a super market can make 2 times MW?

 

[francoHFW]

It isn't the rich, Congress can say no to the rich, they choose to say yes. Again, both parties are to blame, yet you can't seem to blame the Democrats, because then you would have to take responsibility.

Maybe because they've been trying to raise taxes on the rich for 30 years, dupe. Keep voting for bought off lying cheating brainwashers.

Already gave several links showing that Democrats are just as giving to the rich as the Republicans. Why they heck are you being duped by Congress, Democrats and Republicans? I didn't vote for a Republican or Democrat incumbent, you are the problem because you support a party that sold you out in the 90's and to prove how stupid you are, you will continue to vote for them. Congrats!

People like Franko are brainwashed by their puppet masters. Through brainwashing, they have managed to convince them that Republicans are in bed with the rich, racist, homophobes, and most of all, uneducated.

As they saying goes, if you repeat a lie often enough, eventually people will believe it.

We don't HAVE a fake news propaganda machine to compare with your disgrace, dupe.

Did you eat paint chips when you were a kid?

WE have media that tries to be good journalists, not Sean and Rush and your other bought off HS grad ex DJ's spewing the same bs...all run directly by greedy idiot billionaires.

 

[ricechickie]

Now where did I complain about the victims? Look in the mirror.

The poor and middle class are the victims, dolt. We have the worst rich poor gap and upward mobility ever TODAY. Reaganism, not obstructed Obama, dupe.

So all that money spent on the war on poverty accomplished...what exactly?

we have "poor" people that are richer than 70% of the entire population of the planet

Are you a globalist? Because you are so concerned about the poor on other countries.

because I happen to know the FACT that our so called poor are far richer than 70% of the entire world population that makes me a globalist?

no it doesn't it makes me informed and gives me a perspective that extends beyond the walls of your little 2 dimensional echo chamber

I understand that fact, too. I haven't disputed that fact. That doesn't mean that we should work to make our poor more comparable to the poor of the rest of the world.

 

[danielpalos]

I would have more confidence in the sincerity of the right, if corporate welfare did not exist in modern times. why not end that, first?

Why would I want to end people keeping more of their very own money? DumBama had two years with a Democrat led Congress to do whatever he desired. Why didn't he end it?

every bailout for the rich, inspires less confidence in the sincerity of the right

You mean the bailout the left helped carry through? You are a no thinker, you are a propagandist with no honesty.

the left is also for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

And they are for giving health care to the poor, a poor that with the insurance, can't afford the deductibles. That's a lot of help! Forcing all Americans into health care so the middle class can pay more. Lol! Democrats are for The rich, you gobble up the crumbs they feed you will they eat your steaks, and you are happy. Lol!

the right wing, still has no better solution at lower cost.

 

[francoHFW]

It isn't the rich, Congress can say no to the rich, they choose to say yes. Again, both parties are to blame, yet you can't seem to blame the Democrats, because then you would have to take responsibility.

Maybe because they've been trying to raise taxes on the rich for 30 years, dupe. Keep voting for bought off lying cheating brainwashers.

Already gave several links showing that Democrats are just as giving to the rich as the Republicans. Why they heck are you being duped by Congress, Democrats and Republicans? I didn't vote for a Republican or Democrat incumbent, you are the problem because you support a party that sold you out in the 90's and to prove how stupid you are, you will continue to vote for them. Congrats!

Yes, Bill went along with the a-hole GOP too much. Nothing like the GOP disasters when they're in office.

the GOP was willing to "shut down" government, if they didn't get their way.

So we're the Democrats, why do you persist in the lies of the left?

Never, dupe.

 

[ricechickie]

If the paycheck isn't enough to feed you and shelter you, it's not much of a reward. Again, people act like you can just hop to a better job if you're not satisfied with your current pay. Wages are stagnant. It's a fact.

If you have nothing more to add to the profit margin and productivity of a company, why do you deserve more pay?

Go to night school, take a part time job, work overtime, take courses online, get off your duff and quit acting like a victim.

If an employee had nothing to add to the profit margin, why are they hired in the first place?

Who is acting like a victim? Low-wage employees are asserting how much their time, effort, and skills are worth. That's advocating for themselves, not being victims.

and just how much profit do you think an employer makes on a MW employee?

It ain't much

and the skills needed to perform MW work aren't worth much
If you want to make more than MW then you have to make the time you sell to your employer worth more

Funny I always thought of my employers (when I had them) as customers who I sell a product to and I always wanted to give them the highest quality product I could which means that in every entry level job I had the first thing I ever did was find out exactly what I had to do to get a promotion.

That's how I was managing the entire dairy section of a large supermarket when I was 17 and still in high school and was making almost twice as much as the guys who just wanted to stock shelves

Either this happened decades ago, or I call bullshit. In the last 20 years, a manager of one section of a supermarket would not make twice (or "almost twice") what the min. wage employees make.

It was when I was 17. and you don't think a department manager in a super market can make 2 times MW?

Today's min wage is 7.25? So, a department manager makes 14.50/ hr? Not even close in my area.

How long ago were you 17?

 

[Iceweasel]

Poverty is directly related to single-parent households. Democrats promoted those single-parent households--especially in the 70's. N.O.W was the main orchestrator of all this, and they've made quite an accomplishment. In fact, black families (who mostly vote Democrat) have a 70% out-of-wedlock birth rate in this country, and I seriously doubt they were all doing well at one time and hit a pot hole forcing them onto government programs.

Exactly. These days a gal can marry the government. Who needs a man around when you can get payed by the kid. I've seen lots of huge heffers with a kid or more in tow, no doubt living off of Uncle Sugar.

"No doubt"?

I see a lot of sociology psychics out there. They can just look at someone and know their financial situation. It's fucking incredible!

I am not nearly so skilled. It takes me reading several of your posts full of dog-whistles and stereotypes to realize that you're a knuckle-dragging bigot!

Oh fuck you. I wasn't born yesterday. When I see someone so fat they can barely walk, ungroomed and unkept with a clutch of kids they are very likely not working. If I'm a bigot, you're a retard to not know it.

 

[Iceweasel]

Today's min wage is 7.25? So, a department manager makes 14.50/ hr? Not even close in my area.

How do you know? You consistently speak as if you were god.

 

[ricechickie]

Today's min wage is 7.25? So, a department manager makes 14.50/ hr? Not even close in my area.

How do you know? You consistently speak as if you were god.

No, I speak as if I read. And I know working people. It's not that hard to find out the wages of a particular industry in a particular area.

 

[ricechickie]

Poverty is directly related to single-parent households. Democrats promoted those single-parent households--especially in the 70's. N.O.W was the main orchestrator of all this, and they've made quite an accomplishment. In fact, black families (who mostly vote Democrat) have a 70% out-of-wedlock birth rate in this country, and I seriously doubt they were all doing well at one time and hit a pot hole forcing them onto government programs.

Exactly. These days a gal can marry the government. Who needs a man around when you can get payed by the kid. I've seen lots of huge heffers with a kid or more in tow, no doubt living off of Uncle Sugar.

"No doubt"?

I see a lot of sociology psychics out there. They can just look at someone and know their financial situation. It's fucking incredible!

I am not nearly so skilled. It takes me reading several of your posts full of dog-whistles and stereotypes to realize that you're a knuckle-dragging bigot!

Oh fuck you. I wasn't born yesterday. When I see someone so fat they can barely walk, ungroomed and unkept with a clutch of kids they are very likely not working. If I'm a bigot, you're a retard to not know it.

You clearly weren't born yesterday, because all of your social stereotypes are from the '60s and '70s.

 

[francoHFW]

Now where did I complain about the victims? Look in the mirror.

The poor and middle class are the victims, dolt. We have the worst rich poor gap and upward mobility ever TODAY. Reaganism, not obstructed Obama, dupe.

So all that money spent on the war on poverty accomplished...what exactly?

we have "poor" people that are richer than 70% of the entire population of the planet

Are you a globalist? Because you are so concerned about the poor on other countries.

because I happen to know the FACT that our so called poor are far richer than 70% of the entire world population that makes me a globalist?

no it doesn't it makes me informed and gives me a perspective that extends beyond the walls of your little 2 dimensional echo chamber

They're also a helluva lot poorer than the poor in other MODERN countries. GOPers LOVE comparing with 3rd world countries...

 

[francoHFW]

A company (any company) only pays labor what it is worth. This is dictated by the supply and demand market of employees.

You are only worth as much as the next person willing to do the same job and same quality of work as you do. That's how it's decided.

Those are two rules of business that are cast in stone and yet, Progressives cannot comprehend the concept. It is as if Progressives have little filters in their ears and vital information never even gets to their brain to be processed.

We look at businesses as entities that produce products or services for a profit. Liberals think that businesses start up to give people good jobs and pay the social obligation they are saddled with.

We can keep both in mind at the same time. Amazing, eh?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A company (any company) only pays labor what it is worth. This is dictated by the supply and demand market of employees.

You are only worth as much as the next person willing to do the same job and same quality of work as you do. That's how it's decided.

Those are two rules of business that are cast in stone and yet, Progressives cannot comprehend the concept. It is as if Progressives have little filters in their ears and vital information never even gets to their brain to be processed.

We look at businesses as entities that produce products or services for a profit. Liberals think that businesses start up to give people good jobs and pay the social obligation they are saddled with.

We can keep both in mind at the same time. Amazing, eh?

Why don't you find a business owner that can honestly say he opened up his business to provide good paying jobs, and I'll show you a failed businessman.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's not the job of an employer to make you happy. It's the job of an employer to produce products or services for a profit.

Nobody is forced to work for minimum wage. If you need more money, don't cry for government to get you more, do it yourself.

then, stop making people on welfare work for under less than fifteen dollars an hour.

I'm not making anybody do anything. Individuals make that choice for themselves.

work for welfare. only the right wing, never gets it.

You don't think that's been tried before? It has and doesn't work.

yet, the right wing insists on a "work or die" ethic from the Age of Iron.

Right, and we who believe in work or die AND support those that don't want to work. Not a great system if you ask me. Work or die is much better because it forces people to produce and take care of themselves. It would help us balance the budget and insure a future for generations to come.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The only people the carrot is out of reach for are those physically or mentally disabled, and we take care of those people. Everybody else? It's up to you if you want that carrot or a bushel of carrots.

I would have more confidence in the sincerity of the right, if corporate welfare did not exist in modern times. why not end that, first?

Why would I want to end people keeping more of their very own money? DumBama had two years with a Democrat led Congress to do whatever he desired. Why didn't he end it?

every bailout for the rich, inspires less confidence in the sincerity of the right

Bailouts and corporate welfare are two different things. Bailouts are granted or loaned money to an industry while so-called welfare is nothing more than tax breaks.

the poor do not get to keep their wealth while means tested welfare for individuals, and may jeopardize their steak and lobster privileges as well.

It's their money. Shouldn't they be able to eat whatever they want with their money?

"Liberals believe if you earn money, you are not entitled to it, but if you want money, you are."
Ken Blackwell