Return of relative Decency in US politics

[kaz]

I'd like to think that we'd be in a different place if rules of conduct were in place.... some kind of Godwin's Law for politics. Cross the line and you're out kind of thing ?
Does the following have a chance in hell in 2018 lol:

The Ten Commandments of decent Campaigning and running the office...

1. Thou shall focus on your plan/agenda... which should be detailed.
2. Thou shall never demean your adversary for effect (small hands, dishonest Ted,...)
3. Thou shall respect campaign financing rules
4. Thou shall never tell a blatant lie (good luck with that... lol)
5. Thou shall demonstrate a minimum of empathy.
6. Thou shall never waste donors' money.
7. Thou shall not commit adultery (oh boy....)
8. Thou shall provide your tax returns when asked lol
9. Thou shall act presidential... or get coaching if you have no clue about acting that way lol.
10. Thou shall respect the institutions that support your country.

I thought my Republican party had sunk to a new low by 2006, and so I stopped voting on the federal level.

Little did I realize the GOP still had a very, very, very, very long way to go before it hit bottom.

I'm still waiting to see how much lower they can go.

We are deep in a pseudocon version of the Jacobin Club territory now.

"Your Republican party?" Everyone knows you were never a Republican, douchebag.

Unlike Donald Trump, I was a Republican all my life.

Even Mueller has been a Republican longer than Trump.

And no one has made more attacks on Republicans than Donald Trump.

So shove your opinion right back up your ass from where it came, dipshit.

Name one Republican in this forum who believes you were ever a Republican.

Jake Starkey ...

 

[Obama2020]

Step one is to require full tax returns for any candidate running for political office. Rich tax evaders like manager are outed. Let the voters scrutinize the rich candidates tax returns through law. But it will never happen because the system is filled with wealthy businesspeople aka the swamp.

Neither of us gives a shit about tax returns. Not going would change our vote either way. Cut the stupid shit

LOL. Nobody stopped drinking when Al Capone went to jail.

 

[BookShaka]

The Leftist Marxist believe hatred, lies and violence, and even coups are what are necessary to fundamentally transform America in to a Socialist Nanny State. They are committed to Globalism, Open Borders, and a Gender Confused Society. They have No Standards and No Code of Ethics to Live by and they are committed to The Destruction of Individual Liberties and The Sovereign State.

Knowing this, that there are murderers, liars, slanderers, and traitors amongst us, there can NEVER be civility again, because The Left has no limits to the depths they will sink to to obtain power.

Now that's interesting! A global village perceived as a threat. This idea definitely has religious foundations.

Most conservatives will seek the status quo and the preservation of its values usually defined by the christian faith. This is in fact what Iran did back in the 1970's. Throw out the secular Shah of Iran (Reza Pahlavi), replace him with Ayatollah Khomeini and preserve Islamic faith (Shiite).

Seems it's not about politics from now on... it's more a deep divide on social issues.
Democrats:

• liberal values (secular)
• pro choice
• free trade
• separation of church and state

Republicans:

• conservative values (mostly christian)... intelligent design ?
• pro life
• protectionist
• church over state

Doesn't look good for decency ;(

It's amazing how liberals are for free trade yet want burger flippers to make $15 an hour, how does that work?



You have some magical economic splaining to do ..

The extreme wingers’ beliefs almost never add up. Both sides fear a dictatorship when their political opposition is in office but would love one with their side in power.

 

[Obama2020]

It's amazing how liberals are for free trade yet want burger flippers to make $15 an hour, how does that work?
You have some magical economic splaining to do ..

The extreme wingers’ beliefs almost never add up. Both sides fear a dictatorship when their political opposition is in office but would love one with their side in power.

This time it's different. Considering the intense partisan propaganda and number of lies spewed out by a sitting president that embraces the likes of Kim and Vlad, you're on a different planet and way off kilter with that quote. This is really not a good time to put blindfolds on.

 

[sakinago]

The Ten Commandments of decent Campaigning and running the office...
1. Thou shall focus on your plan/agenda... which should be detailed.
2. Thou shall never demean your adversary for effect (small hands, dishonest Ted,...)
3. Thou shall respect campaign financing rules
4. Thou shall never tell a blatant lie (good luck with that... lol)
5. Thou shall demonstrate a minimum of empathy.
6. Thou shall never waste donors' money.
7. Thou shall not commit adultery (oh boy....)
8. Thou shall provide your tax returns when asked lol
9. Thou shall act presidential... or get coaching if you have no clue about acting that way lol.
10. Thou shall respect the institutions that support your country.
I asked how do you propose we enforce this?

You do not enforce this. These should be natural reflexes/instincts... stuff your parents... grand-parents should have taught you.

If you are at a point where you need to enforce 'common sense' or decency.rules you are sick. This looks like a societal disease. Germany caught this back in the 1930's.

Never said I wanted to “enforce” it through law, I am completely against that, violation of the first. I was curious as how you proposed we enforce it. And there can be a level of societal enforcement that’s non-official, like there is against racism.

How I propose to do this is be critical of your own side before being critical of the other. Neither side wants to hear it from the other. So next time Sam bee says something like feckless c**t, call her out as well as the people giving her a pass. I’ll call out trump and those giving him a pass when he says something stupid like outlawing turning.

 

[Obama2020]

Never said I wanted to “enforce” it through law, I am completely against that, violation of the first. I was curious as how you proposed we enforce it. And there can be a level of societal enforcement that’s non-official, like there is against racism.
How I propose to do this is be critical of your own side before being critical of the other. Neither side wants to hear it from the other. So next time Sam bee says something like feckless c**t, call her out as well as the people giving her a pass. I’ll call out trump and those giving him a pass when he says something stupid like outlawing turning.

Tell that to evangelicals who elected a pig to stuff the supreme court with ultra-conservative judges (80% voted for Trump). They're realizing long term goals at the expense of the short term inconvenience of supporting a racist pig like Trump.
Tell that to racists that hated Obama because he was half black and his father came from Kenya.
etc...
No complaints from the KKK or some fundamentalist group yet lol

The wake up call in November will cause a severe whiplash. So it's a good time to get one of these before they run out at Amazon.

 

[Hellbilly]

Not after the liberals showed their true colors after Trump won...


We always thought they were pathetic creatures , but we didn't know that they were this over the edge.

Yes, libtards, the most indecent uncivil sobs the planet are always calling for decency and civility!

We used to have decency and civility.

You called it polical correctness and said it was bad.

I have never seen a decent democrat!

As it turns out I've never met a Republican that wasn't a POS racist.

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You don't get out much do you?


.

All the time.
You assholes are all the same.

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[kaz]

Step one is to require full tax returns for any candidate running for political office. Rich tax evaders like manager are outed. Let the voters scrutinize the rich candidates tax returns through law. But it will never happen because the system is filled with wealthy businesspeople aka the swamp.

Neither of us gives a shit about tax returns. Not going would change our vote either way. Cut the stupid shit

LOL. Nobody stopped drinking when Al Capone went to jail.

True. What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Obama2020]

Neither of us gives a shit about tax returns. Not going would change our vote either way. Cut the stupid shit

LOL. Nobody stopped drinking when Al Capone went to jail.

True. What does that have to do with anything?

When Trump is 'locked up' you'll still vote Republican

 

[kaz]

Neither of us gives a shit about tax returns. Not going would change our vote either way. Cut the stupid shit

LOL. Nobody stopped drinking when Al Capone went to jail.

True. What does that have to do with anything?

When Trump is 'locked up' you'll still vote Republican

God, defending your orange clown again. Stop making excuses for voting for trump

 

[sakinago]

Never said I wanted to “enforce” it through law, I am completely against that, violation of the first. I was curious as how you proposed we enforce it. And there can be a level of societal enforcement that’s non-official, like there is against racism.
How I propose to do this is be critical of your own side before being critical of the other. Neither side wants to hear it from the other. So next time Sam bee says something like feckless c**t, call her out as well as the people giving her a pass. I’ll call out trump and those giving him a pass when he says something stupid like outlawing turning.

Tell that to evangelicals who elected a pig to stuff the supreme court with ultra-conservative judges (80% voted for Trump). They're realizing long term goals at the expense of the short term inconvenience of supporting a racist pig like Trump.
Tell that to racists that hated Obama because he was half black and his father came from Kenya.
etc...
No complaints from the KKK or some fundamentalist group yet lol

The wake up call in November will cause a severe whiplash. So it's a good time to get one of these before they run out at Amazon.

Neither Gorsuch nor Kavanaugh are ultra conservative, Gorsuch is a textualist, Kavanaugh is slightly to the right of Roberts...And are you suggesting that there is a right to be angry when a president appoints a Judge that doesn’t give down the middle rulings? Then if that’s the case the right are perfectly justified to be mad that the likes of RBG are on the Supreme Court?? Do you expect the right to nominate left leaning judges? This has got to be the silliest point I’ve ever heard.

The left lost to the presidential candidate with the highest unfavorability rating in history since this sort of thing has been measured. Maybe it’s time for some introspection on the left, instead of trying to excuse everything away as people just being racist pigs. Incorporate some nuance in your arguments. Unless you believe that nuance and introspection are bad things, I hope you don’t for your own sake.

You can’t even follow your own rules you laid out in your own thread. Everybody is a racist pig, closet KKK members. Yeah, okay, that’s it. I’m done with this hypocritical BS, if you want to have an honest conversation I’m open to that. Not this childish, everything else is all their fault, mentality. Not going to waste my time.

 

[Obama2020]

Neither Gorsuch nor Kavanaugh are ultra conservative, Gorsuch is a textualist, Kavanaugh is slightly to the right of Roberts...And are you suggesting that there is a right to be angry when a president appoints a Judge that doesn’t give down the middle rulings? Then if that’s the case the right are perfectly justified to be mad that the likes of RBG are on the Supreme Court?? Do you expect the right to nominate left leaning judges? This has got to be the silliest point I’ve ever heard.
The left lost to the presidential candidate with the highest unfavorability rating in history since this sort of thing has been measured. Maybe it’s time for some introspection on the left, instead of trying to excuse everything away as people just being racist pigs. Incorporate some nuance in your arguments. Unless you believe that nuance and introspection are bad things, I hope you don’t for your own sake.
You can’t even follow your own rules you laid out in your own thread. Everybody is a racist pig, closet KKK members. Yeah, okay, that’s it. I’m done with this hypocritical BS, if you want to have an honest conversation I’m open to that. Not this childish, everything else is all their fault, mentality. Not going to waste my time.

Well from my point of view, Republican vs Democrat has become a simple and debasing Church vs State debate. Social issues putting religious right against mostly secular left.
You're pissing in my cereals when church overlaps into state and set up reversals like like Roe vs Wade.
You're pissing in my cereals with Obama birther crap and Breitbart propaganda.
You're pissing in my cereals when you elect a racist pig and no one gives a crap.

Besides... survey says: being indecent is in vogue.

 

[bripat9643]

Neither Gorsuch nor Kavanaugh are ultra conservative, Gorsuch is a textualist, Kavanaugh is slightly to the right of Roberts...And are you suggesting that there is a right to be angry when a president appoints a Judge that doesn’t give down the middle rulings? Then if that’s the case the right are perfectly justified to be mad that the likes of RBG are on the Supreme Court?? Do you expect the right to nominate left leaning judges? This has got to be the silliest point I’ve ever heard.
The left lost to the presidential candidate with the highest unfavorability rating in history since this sort of thing has been measured. Maybe it’s time for some introspection on the left, instead of trying to excuse everything away as people just being racist pigs. Incorporate some nuance in your arguments. Unless you believe that nuance and introspection are bad things, I hope you don’t for your own sake.
You can’t even follow your own rules you laid out in your own thread. Everybody is a racist pig, closet KKK members. Yeah, okay, that’s it. I’m done with this hypocritical BS, if you want to have an honest conversation I’m open to that. Not this childish, everything else is all their fault, mentality. Not going to waste my time.

Well from my point of view, Republican vs Democrat has become a simple and debasing Church vs State debate. Social issues putting religious right against mostly secular left.
You're pissing in my cereals when church overlaps into state and set up reversals like like Roe vs Wade.
You're pissing in my cereals with Obama birther crap and Breitbart propaganda.
You're pissing in my cereals when you elect a racist pig and no one gives a crap.

Besides... survey says: being indecent is in vogue.

I'm an atheist, so how does that fit into your moronic equation? I hope I am pissing in your cereal.

 

[Borillar]

Decency? That ship sailed a long time ago. Indecency rules now and is celebrated by the likes of Trump and his cult following. At any rate, decency among most politicians is a very thin veneer at best. A lot of them appear to be sociopaths under a smiling facade.

 

[Richard-H]

I'd like to think that we'd be in a different place if rules of conduct were in place.... some kind of Godwin's Law for politics. Cross the line and you're out kind of thing ?
Does the following have a chance in hell in 2018 lol:

The Ten Commandments of decent Campaigning and running the office...

1. Thou shall focus on your plan/agenda... which should be detailed.
2. Thou shall never demean your adversary for effect (small hands, dishonest Ted,...)
3. Thou shall respect campaign financing rules
4. Thou shall never tell a blatant lie (good luck with that... lol)
5. Thou shall demonstrate a minimum of empathy.
6. Thou shall never waste donors' money.
7. Thou shall not commit adultery (oh boy....)
8. Thou shall provide your tax returns when asked lol
9. Thou shall act presidential... or get coaching if you have no clue about acting that way lol.
10. Thou shall respect the institutions that support your country.

Your list should be renamed "The Ten Commandments of how to certainly lose an election"

Face it nasty campaigns are entertaining...the nastier they are the more the American people like it.

Sort of like when Romans won elections by financing increasing brutal games.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

I'd like to think that we'd be in a different place if rules of conduct were in place.... some kind of Godwin's Law for politics. Cross the line and you're out kind of thing ?
Does the following have a chance in hell in 2018 lol:

The Ten Commandments of decent Campaigning and running the office...

1. Thou shall focus on your plan/agenda... which should be detailed.
2. Thou shall never demean your adversary for effect (small hands, dishonest Ted,...)
3. Thou shall respect campaign financing rules
4. Thou shall never tell a blatant lie (good luck with that... lol)
5. Thou shall demonstrate a minimum of empathy.
6. Thou shall never waste donors' money.
7. Thou shall not commit adultery (oh boy....)
8. Thou shall provide your tax returns when asked lol
9. Thou shall act presidential... or get coaching if you have no clue about acting that way lol.
10. Thou shall respect the institutions that support your country.

You know that is never going to happen.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

As long as (tax exempt thank you John McCain) Media Matters exists there will never be decency in a political campaign.The Media Matters masthead says it all, "we monitor (only) conservative speech". MM gleans a juicy sound bite and sends it to Huffington for spin and you get fake news. Look what MM did to Sara Palin. They hired sleazy researchers and private detectives to rent a freaking house near Palin and monitor her and her family 24/7. They researched her family and made it public. MM will research a (conservative) candidate's history back to freaking grammar school if that's what it takes to dig up dirt. Republicans have no such source but the crazy hate filled left will continue to whine as long as a republican is in office.

Media Matters for America: This organization is a "web-based, not-for-profit … progressive research and information center" seeking to "systematically monitor a cross-section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation." The group works closely with the Soros-backed Center for American Progress, and is heavily funded by Democracy Alliance, of which Soros is a major financier.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

I'd like to think that we'd be in a different place if rules of conduct were in place.... some kind of Godwin's Law for politics. Cross the line and you're out kind of thing ?
Does the following have a chance in hell in 2018 lol:

The Ten Commandments of decent Campaigning and running the office...

1. Thou shall focus on your plan/agenda... which should be detailed.
2. Thou shall never demean your adversary for effect (small hands, dishonest Ted,...)
3. Thou shall respect campaign financing rules
4. Thou shall never tell a blatant lie (good luck with that... lol)
5. Thou shall demonstrate a minimum of empathy.
6. Thou shall never waste donors' money.
7. Thou shall not commit adultery (oh boy....)
8. Thou shall provide your tax returns when asked lol
9. Thou shall act presidential... or get coaching if you have no clue about acting that way lol.
10. Thou shall respect the institutions that support your country.

good luck getting Democrat candidates to follow your rules

11. Thou shall not illegally use the IRS, FBI and DOJ as political weapons
12. Thou shall not unfairly report the News

 

[bripat9643]

I'd like to think that we'd be in a different place if rules of conduct were in place.... some kind of Godwin's Law for politics. Cross the line and you're out kind of thing ?
Does the following have a chance in hell in 2018 lol:

The Ten Commandments of decent Campaigning and running the office...

1. Thou shall focus on your plan/agenda... which should be detailed.
2. Thou shall never demean your adversary for effect (small hands, dishonest Ted,...)
3. Thou shall respect campaign financing rules
4. Thou shall never tell a blatant lie (good luck with that... lol)
5. Thou shall demonstrate a minimum of empathy.
6. Thou shall never waste donors' money.
7. Thou shall not commit adultery (oh boy....)
8. Thou shall provide your tax returns when asked lol
9. Thou shall act presidential... or get coaching if you have no clue about acting that way lol.
10. Thou shall respect the institutions that support your country.

good luck getting Democrat candidates to follow your rules

11. Thou shall not illegally use the IRS, FBI and DOJ as political weapons
12. Thou shall not unfairly report the News

13. Thou shall not claim your sources are anonymous when you just made them up.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

CNN is not media. They are biased trolls.